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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2013, 01:09:06 pm » |
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Mine would come back and tell on them if its not pork she won't mess with it
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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2013, 01:18:32 pm » |
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She's in heat right now but if we can keep male dogs away from her I'm game but I'm not building fence if it gets that western.
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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2013, 02:21:03 pm » |
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I will bet anyone that is willing to come down and hunt that says their cd wont catch a cow if they turn it loose to a bay...........i wouldnt want a cd that wouldnt catch what my dogs had bayed......i got a crisp 100$ bill to put on the table to anyone who accepts!
Justin I won't take your bet! I would have bet my gyp would catch anything that was bayed, I am lucky & she proved me wrong a couple weeks ago. We had caught 2 & they had killed several pigs. I had 2 young dogs on ground & 2 older dogs we were walking down a road down on the side of a creek toward where I had lost the dogs at 1mi plus and jumped a boar hog and he broke & ran across a field to another set of woods. within 5 min the two pups came in I took them to where we jumped the boar and they ran the track to rite inside the woods & bayed. I got within 20 yards and sent the gyp in. A minute or so passed & nothing then she sticks her head out headed back at me and out the side not 20 yards from me a big bull breaks across the field. I hollered at the pups scared to death. And managed to get them back as well. I know how lucky I was. I couldn't believe she didn't catch him. But I do no I wouldn't do it and figure on being that lucky again. All I can figure is I turn her loose at the house all the time and often pups are baying the roping calves and she was thinking enough to put two & two together.
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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2013, 04:44:22 pm » |
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Mine wouldnt catch a cow more than once for sure. I have had plenty of bulldogs that wouldnt catch when they got to the bay if it was a cow or horse. id give them one if they hadnt been taught. that would be followed by intense shock therapy and subsequent offenses would be treated with lead therapy. I can understand when one of the young bay dogs pulls up on a cow when im hog hunting (they are used on cows and hogs) but the bulldog isnt ever used on cows and he should know better.
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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2013, 09:25:15 pm » |
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Its not uncommon for bulldogs to know the difference and not catch on any thing but hogs. Ask the guys hunting horse back who run all the catch dogs on the ground. If they let there catch dogs catch every thing in sight they wouldn't get much hunting done.
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« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2013, 10:04:04 pm » |
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You know you a probably right. If the bay dogs are baying solid I bet the catch dog would catch. Another good reason to trash break your bay dogs real good.
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« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2013, 10:30:00 pm » |
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Mine catch whatever those strikes dogs are baying! Lol
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« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2013, 10:33:39 pm » |
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Its not uncommon for bulldogs to know the difference and not catch on any thing but hogs. Ask the guys hunting horse back who run all the catch dogs on the ground. If they let there catch dogs catch every thing in sight they wouldn't get much hunting done.
Thats a whole different story, their dogs are conditioned to the horse already. The way the op stated it in my opinion wasn't what would your cd who has been conditioned to cattle/horses do, it seemed to me that we were talkin about a cd that has never seen a cow, just the way I looked at it! No worries i do see where you are coming from, we just hit it from different angles
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« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2013, 12:54:55 am » |
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Thats not really what Im getting at. I expect the same out of a stike dog as a catch dogs. You get a free pass... maybe two when you are young but after that its time to get right. If they can't tell the difference between a hog and a cow... even if the dogs are baying... they are not staying in my kennels. Too much of a liability.
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« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2013, 09:29:20 am » |
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not 4 sure.... hope it never happens....i bet he would catch
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« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2013, 01:14:14 pm » |
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Thats not really what Im getting at. I expect the same out of a stike dog as a catch dogs. You get a free pass... maybe two when you are young but after that its time to get right. If they can't tell the difference between a hog and a cow... even if the dogs are baying... they are not staying in my kennels. Too much of a liability.
I gotcha, well I'll throw a "what if" scenario out there...........I know quite a few guys on this site and a few that aren't on this site that use their dogs both ways, on hogs and cattle....a few of I know hog hunt on the exact same property that they work cattle on, just last week one of my good friends caught 9 hogs with his dogs while he was looking for 7 yearlin cattle on 1800 acres.............im not askin for a response lol just throwin out different scenarios and different backgrounds on dogs.......to me or you a dog that wont leave cattle alone may be a cull but to those men, a dog that WONT bay cattle might be a cull.......it's all about the individual needs/wants that we have for our dogs and I know there are numerous different opinions on what we think are good and bad traits in our dogs ......theres 100's if not 1000's of different things that can happen every time we enter the woods............I believe I would probly crap my pants if I went in to a bay and my dogs had a dang bear bayed up lol!
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« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2013, 02:04:05 pm » |
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If my bay dogs are bayed on a tree, my CD'S are gonna catch it. Luckly i have confidence in my bay dogs for that not to happen and in the past few years ive been lucky enough not to have to worry about anything but a hog. SOme people know my Cd Chica and i assure she is a CD from 1000 yards or 50 yards but when she gets to the bay she is gonna catch. So know your dogs and know your bay and you shouldn't have any problems.
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« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2013, 02:21:04 pm » |
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Ya a catch dog on a bear is the most western thing over ever seen
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« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2013, 05:25:04 pm » |
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If my bay dogs are bayed on a tree, my CD'S are gonna catch it. Luckly i have confidence in my bay dogs for that not to happen and in the past few years ive been lucky enough not to have to worry about anything but a hog. SOme people know my Cd Chica and i assure she is a CD from 1000 yards or 50 yards but when she gets to the bay she is gonna catch. So know your dogs and know your bay and you shouldn't have any problems.
LOL at the highlighted section, if memory serves me right not to long ago someone on here posted about their dog baying a stump.......that would have me in tears, esp if the cd ran in a caught it!
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« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2013, 08:15:57 pm » |
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My old catch dog would not catch a cow, coon, skunk, goat, or horse if bayed he would come back. My young one would be hanging on for all he was worth. I did have a pit one time that caught a stump one hunt. I believe Mike saw it happen. Hit the stump so hard broke a Tooth off in it.
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« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2013, 08:17:11 pm » |
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My old catch dog would not catch a cow, coon, skunk, goat, or horse if bayed he would come back. My young one would be hanging on for all he was worth. I did have a pit one time that caught a stump one hunt. I believe Mike saw it happen. Hit the stump so hard broke a Tooth off in it.
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« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2013, 08:25:20 pm » |
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I remember the stump catching... that bulldog hit it at 100 mph!
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« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2013, 10:13:00 pm » |
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Lmfao I thought the dogs baying the stump was the funniest thing ever but that's even funnier.
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« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2013, 10:52:10 pm » |
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Thats not really what Im getting at. I expect the same out of a stike dog as a catch dogs. You get a free pass... maybe two when you are young but after that its time to get right. If they can't tell the difference between a hog and a cow... even if the dogs are baying... they are not staying in my kennels. Too much of a liability.
I gotcha, well I'll throw a "what if" scenario out there...........I know quite a few guys on this site and a few that aren't on this site that use their dogs both ways, on hogs and cattle....a few of I know hog hunt on the exact same property that they work cattle on, just last week one of my good friends caught 9 hogs with his dogs while he was looking for 7 yearlin cattle on 1800 acres.............im not askin for a response lol just throwin out different scenarios and different backgrounds on dogs.......to me or you a dog that wont leave cattle alone may be a cull but to those men, a dog that WONT bay cattle might be a cull.......it's all about the individual needs/wants that we have for our dogs and I know there are numerous different opinions on what we think are good and bad traits in our dogs ......theres 100's if not 1000's of different things that can happen every time we enter the woods............I believe I would probly crap my pants if I went in to a bay and my dogs had a dang bear bayed up lol! No doubt. Im not even debating one is better than the other or any thing like that.... just saying they do exist. 
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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2013, 12:30:45 am » |
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Thats not really what Im getting at. I expect the same out of a stike dog as a catch dogs. You get a free pass... maybe two when you are young but after that its time to get right. If they can't tell the difference between a hog and a cow... even if the dogs are baying... they are not staying in my kennels. Too much of a liability.
I gotcha, well I'll throw a "what if" scenario out there...........I know quite a few guys on this site and a few that aren't on this site that use their dogs both ways, on hogs and cattle....a few of I know hog hunt on the exact same property that they work cattle on, just last week one of my good friends caught 9 hogs with his dogs while he was looking for 7 yearlin cattle on 1800 acres.............im not askin for a response lol just throwin out different scenarios and different backgrounds on dogs.......to me or you a dog that wont leave cattle alone may be a cull but to those men, a dog that WONT bay cattle might be a cull.......it's all about the individual needs/wants that we have for our dogs and I know there are numerous different opinions on what we think are good and bad traits in our dogs ......theres 100's if not 1000's of different things that can happen every time we enter the woods............I believe I would probly crap my pants if I went in to a bay and my dogs had a dang bear bayed up lol! No doubt. Im not even debating one is better than the other or any thing like that.... just saying they do exist.  Im probly just over analyzing it. I do agree with you, i know they exist, i know of 1 thats 1000000% broke, she is the smartest bulldog ive ever seen, she is a buddy of mines dog that my "iceman" pup came out of and she listens to him as good if not better than a solid bird dog, she is great to hunt with. I think the majority would catch a cow if given the chance, just my .02 and nothin more.
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