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« on: March 29, 2013, 10:12:35 am »

Just wondering how some of yall do and if you think this may make a difference. My best dog turned a whole new leaf this year and have been catching alot of hogs with her. Ive had the dog since she was 2 bought her off here actually. Shes almost 5 now. For some reason i seen something in the dog that i liked even though she would not go find a hog for me or even honor a bay. She got better over time and last year she started finding her own hogs but wouldn't stay with them 10 or 15 mins and come back to me - let me tell you that was aggravating but anyways i never lost faith in the dog. She is a very smart bmc but to get to my point about 3 months ago my wife finally talks me into letting the dog stay in the house for protection while im working nights and i have always been really strick on dogs in the house but now she even sleeps in the bed with us and let me tell u that dog has found hogs consistently and stays on them till i get there everytime now - about a week ago she even kept one bayed for 2 hours until i could find a way to get to her! seems like that turned the trust up to a whole new level for the dog. I went from still questionable on the dog from the day deer season was out of the way to just being in aw of her for the last 4 months on her performance. Just wanted to see what you all think of that and if anyone has the same experience or if you even believe in that? Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 12:17:53 pm »

I have a dog that at 5 years old wouldn't run one 200 yards. Now he'll go a 1000 or more. One year 200, next year 1000. I think some dogs are just slow to mature or takes a while to figure everything out.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 12:28:41 pm »

I really think this dog has had it in her for a couple years seems like she maybe just thought i was gonna run off and leave her. She was finding and staying with hogs supposedly from the guy i bought her from when she was 2
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 12:33:13 pm »

I have high expectations...I will never know if a dog turns on at 2 years because it will be gone...I expect a one year old pup to be hunting and making it from strike to finish in most hunts within reason...I make note of the slow learners and the fast learners...
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 01:00:36 pm »

Guess my dogs and i are slow learners then!  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 01:14:52 pm »

Guess my dogs and i are slow learners then!  Grin

no sir...  Smiley I am just a harda$$ old man...  Grin I see it like this...I can't keep many dogs where I live, besides, dog food is expensive and maintaining dogs in a clean environment takes lots of work and time...so...I want my dogs to be the best I can get and breed up to a higher standard...and I like early starters so must breed early starting dogs when I do decide to make a breeding...
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 01:24:29 pm »

I have seen dogs turn on late. U fed that one way longer than I woulda. Glad she turned out for ya. There is something to be said about being part of the pack tho.  I feel like if a dog does not feel to be part of the pack it will lay back and not perform. These dogs tend to be the more timid type. It is possible that by bringing her in that coulda flipped the switch that said she was part of it. I will give a dog time to adjust and get comfortable but 3 years is far beyond what I would give her.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 01:28:15 pm »

I have seen dogs turn on late. U fed that one way longer than I woulda. Glad she turned out for ya. There is something to be said about being part of the pack tho.  I feel like if a dog does not feel to be part of the pack it will lay back and not perform. These dogs tend to be the more timid type. It is possible that by bringing her in that coulda flipped the switch that said she was part of it. I will give a dog time to adjust and get comfortable but 3 years is far beyond what I would give her.

shotgun...I like how you think...  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2013, 09:00:20 pm »

so are you saying that your dog at a year old can hang with a two year old dog that was a late bloomer thats been hunted and given time to mature out
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2013, 09:21:29 pm »

I have had a few at 10 months old that hunted better than the average hog dog...but on average I raised quite a few that were on there way to being great hog dogs by 14-16 months...
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2013, 09:44:52 pm »

A dog I have raised from a pup I should know what it may be by time it's a year and half. I have had dogs that were that age when I got them. These dogs were throw away dogs. Messed with them a lil to get an idea then put them in the woods with dogs that hunted. Now those dogs are a lil over 2 and find hogs and finish them. Are they as good as some year old dogs probly not but they hunt. Had a cat I got at 8months she showed no intrest to the point of not going to bay wouldn't even chase a pig when it ran within feet of her. After 4 months and absolutely no intrest showing she no longer lives here. Gave her back to the guy I got her from. She may be jam up one day but I had to let her go. I'm not one to give up on a dog that shows intrest but if all it wants to be is a yard dog it can be that somewhere else. A nose to the ground, going with older dogs, at least jump and try to look at a pig when it comes by is a must. It has to show more potential as a hog dog than my duck dog atleast.
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2013, 12:12:36 pm »

The trust issue is what i was talking about - she was a hog dog when i bought her! focus guys  Shocked - i watched her hunt and find hogs for the previous owner i was refering to when i got her and started hunting her without her previous owner. My patience was gone at getting, buying, and trying out dogs and running all over the freaking country doing it. I only have 3 bay dogs now - i decided screw it i knew what this dog was capable of i just kept hunting her and she would do a little more everytime out it seemed just at really slow increments. She is my only find dog as of now - all i have is a couple what i consider help dogs that fly to the bay after she finds them but they are both young and they do try to hunt a little and i will give them plenty of time to strike their own hogs too as they do show potential but even if not i still need a help dog or two! But anyways the "trust issue is what i was looking for comments on" Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2013, 04:53:51 pm »

Some dogs are just slow to trust. A heavy hand can make that worse. My redbone male has severe trust issues but will find a hog and is slow on track. The main reason I keep him is because I know if anyone else had him he would be put down. He is real skidish and his method of saying hi will make u think he is gonna bite. After 6 months of lots of just sitting with him he is now where I can catch him before he gets wore out. Any raised voice or hand and its back to square one. In the end the man with patience may have the upper hand and get great things out of dogs others have gave up on.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2013, 04:58:40 pm »

Some dogs are just slow to trust. A heavy hand can make that worse. My redbone male has severe trust issues but will find a hog and is slow on track. The main reason I keep him is because I know if anyone else had him he would be put down. He is real skidish and his method of saying hi will make u think he is gonna bite. After 6 months of lots of just sitting with him he is now where I can catch him before he gets wore out. Any raised voice or hand and its back to square one. In the end the man with patience may have the upper hand and get great things out of dogs others have gave up on.

I agree...one bad move and it is a major set back...
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2013, 05:15:07 pm »

Some dogs are just slow to trust. A heavy hand can make that worse. My redbone male has severe trust issues but will find a hog and is slow on track. The main reason I keep him is because I know if anyone else had him he would be put down. He is real skidish and his method of saying hi will make u think he is gonna bite. After 6 months of lots of just sitting with him he is now where I can catch him before he gets wore out. Any raised voice or hand and its back to square one. In the end the man with patience may have the upper hand and get great things out of dogs others have gave up on.

Shes kinda like that also! When i do something to make her mad she will hang around and act like a bitch sometimes fighting with other dogs for a bit. Give her a little tlc and she will git on and hunt! complete opposite of what i have done with most my dogs i would scold them but she is a good dog and if i scold her i may as well pack up and go back home cuz we aint gonna catch no hogs! Seems like she is just too much like a real woman!  Shocked
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 06:20:40 pm »

Buy her a diamond collar then. She will act right for a month or 2.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2013, 08:36:33 pm »

That is a cur dog, yall have to remember, they were kept around a homestead for thier ability to: find game, gather/herd stock, protect family/possessions, babysit the kids. They were a contributing member of  the family, most could not afford to maintain a PACK of dogs, the ones they did have you can bet had thr families love and respect for that contribution. Most dogs anymore could give a crap less who carried them to the woods.  Sounds to me you got a good one, not a late starter....just took you a bit to realize what makes her tic. Good Hunting!!!
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2013, 05:41:05 pm »

Thanks corey maybe i did find someone that understands what im talking about - i know this is a cur dog as i have owned a crapload of them and i only had one that came anywhere close to this dogs intelligence - she was a registered catahoula out of top of the line breeders - she just wasn't near as good at hunting hogs but when it came to family she would kill herself in a heartbeat to protect any one of us! She got me in trouble quite a few times - the last time was a cop so i sent her to live with my dad. This one im talking about tho in this thread is not quite as aggresive towards everyone else she has a sense of danger like no other ive seen she is just quite a bit smarter i believe. But im very comfortable with her i know that if someone was to steal her like ive had several stolen before they would probably bring her back cause she wouldn't do number 2 for them for a long time. I think it is a real luxury to own a dog like this.
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