Trapped hogs!!!

[Nathan83]

Today we went to a new place to hunt. The dogs started hammering down only 80 yards out get there and dogs are on trap. That wasnt the bad thing the thing was they were in there so long that 2 have died and the other pigs were eating them any trapper that has read the law should know that you check your traps every 36 hours and your traps has to be tagged! I know that we are all trying to take control of the pig population but not in this manner. Just wondering what others think, or do in that situation.

[RL]

I'm unfamiliar with a law that requires you to check your traps every 36 hours.  Can you provide the cite?

[Bo Pugh]

its just like how some people get dogs and dont take care of them and some people set traps and dont go back for a while. i found a coon trap a while back with a dead coon in it. you should take some bolt cutters or whatever tools are required and do a little work on their trap for them

[cdc505]

And I've never heard of tagging them. Not trying to bust any chops but there's no season on pigs!

[Nathan83]

Get on the texas wildlife web site or read the hunting guide book I have both license hunting and trapping all my snares and traps have a tag just like on my dogs

[jdt]

i'm not a bleedin heart animal lover , i've been known to cull dogs on the spot with gun knife or hammer ! but i would never torture or starve an animal .

even if i'm going to kill a hog tommorrow , he will have feed and water today .

[cdc505]

I see well only place I put a trap is on personal property or a neighbors place that has asked to trap for them so don't guess I personally would feel the need mark it nor would I waste time to mark it on my own property. That seems like more of a law that would be enforced on public land, you know like fishing in the river or lake with lines or jugs. Anyways I agree you should check a trap often though I've had some die that were in the trap less than 12 hrs when it's hot enough.

[charles]

 its not in the tpwd hinting manual, but in the tpwd trapping digest. this ONLY for furbearing animals, no where does it say in EITHER the hunting manual or digest about HOGS, but here is the law from the digest:

It is illegal to:
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Shoot at, take or attempt to take any furbearing animal from a boat on public waters in Texas.
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Take furbearing animals by means of falconry without a valid falconry permit issued by the department.
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Take furbearing animals with a foothold or conibearstyle trap except during the season for commercial harvest.
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Take furbearing animals with a foothold or conibearstyle trap within 400 yards of any school.
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Use smoke, explosives or chemical irritants of any kind to harry or flush furbearing animals.
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Take furbearing animals with conibearstyle traps with a diagonal opening greater than 10 inches set on land or in less than 6inch deep water.
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Take furbearing animals with snare, foothold, conibearstyle trap, and live or box trap unless such devices are examined at least once every 36 hours and animals are removed on discovery.

even though it does not state trapping hogs, it is just good hunting and trapping ethics to ck traps 24-36hrs. it doesn't matter if hogs are a nuisance animal or not, its still an animal, and shouldn't have to go through undo suffering from an idiot trapper who sets the trap and doesn't bother to ck it, bc oh, its just hogs. they should be put in a cage and starved and dehydrated till they pass away.

[Muddogkennels]

well u didnt know there was a trap there then it sounds like u should of stayed on your own land . the hogs are not live stock. thats a small amount of hog wasted people shooting pigs from the sky wasta more then that !!  ya pork is to good to wasta so stop the choppers shooting if u fill its a wasta..

[pinecreekkennel]

I don't believe its the waste of pork! I think its more along the lines of cruel stupid sob that has no respect for a animal to leave it in a trap to starve for water or for food.  I understand that some get hot in traps and die when they haven't been caught long but to just consider it a waste of pork is just a cold hearted person talkin... if you ain't got any more respect for a animal than that then you should have nothing to do with them.  Yes helicoptors waste em but that doesn't make it right to leave one in a trap to starve. Two wrongs doesn't make a right... kill em ethically or leave em alone

[charles]

I don't believe its the waste of pork! I think its more along the lines of cruel stupid sob that has no respect for a animal to leave it in a trap to starve for water or for food.  I understand that some get hot in traps and die when they haven't been caught long but to just consider it a waste of pork is just a cold hearted person talkin... if you ain't got any more respect for a animal than that then you should have nothing to do with them.  Yes helicoptors waste em but that doesn't make it right to leave one in a trap to starve. Two wrongs doesn't make a right... kill em ethically or leave em alone

100% agreed.

[Muddogkennels]

ya maybe they are not good eating , maybe they used diesel thats cancer for people that use it or motor oil like from diesel motor oil , lighter fluid. lol . i'll never be suprized on the kind of bait people use...  i know i only eat pigs after i fatten them up .

[cantexduck]

Depending on how you read the law. A trapped hog is now considered livestock. Another reason why letting a hog out of a trap then letting a dog catch it is against the law. Same as a wild hog that is penned. You can not let a dog catch it, it is livestock.

[Muddogkennels]

its a 5 seconds rule right .. im in louisiana , its a different rodeo down here in winnfield . texas is ran by the pope. jk  lol in usa is ran by a monkey.

[charles]

If ur in louissianna, then stick with that law or state your law. Not everybody knows everybody or knows where they r from. Tx has diff laws than louissiana, well rodeo since u put it that way. If mutton bustins ur thing, then thats fine, we'll stick to calf ridin in tx. 

[Bowtech99]

I don't believe its the waste of pork! I think its more along the lines of cruel stupid sob that has no respect for a animal to leave it in a trap to starve for water or for food.  I understand that some get hot in traps and die when they haven't been caught long but to just consider it a waste of pork is just a cold hearted person talkin... if you ain't got any more respect for a animal than that then you should have nothing to do with them.  Yes helicoptors waste em but that doesn't make it right to leave one in a trap to starve. Two wrongs doesn't make a right... kill em ethically or leave em alone

100% agreed.

Couldnt have said it better. Why go thru all that work to set it and bait it, an all, and not even check it? dont make sense, but again look at what the worlds comin too.....

[Nathan83]

My buddy said no one else is susposed to be out on the place so you also have trespassing too.

[bob]

weve came across traps on government land were they paid a licensed trapper to trap hogs , one trap had  a hog in it , skin and bones and looked like it had been in there for a few days , we took care of the problem and destroyed his traps , I told the gamewarden that day , he had the same attitude as the trapper [ could give a care less ] , im right behind charles on this one , RESPECT , so many people these days were not taught this principle and as I get older  with kids of my own Ive come to realize that a whole lot of parents are lazy or just throw there hands up and teach there kids nothing and thats how we get uncaring people , lazys , spung suckers , and cold hearted people with no conscious ,[ sparrows ] if you believe in god , jesus said  [ not one of them falls to the ground apart from your fathers will   math . 10-29 its interesting that jesus chose the most common of all birds to teach a profound truth , in gods eyes no one or no thing is insignificant JMO

[dblackwell]

I got some what of a "talking to" yesterday from a man who's place borders a place we hunt. We have permission to hunt it with the agreement we work his cows in the spring and fall free of charge. No big deal. This place is a honey hole. Last year we hunted it hard and ran the hogs out nearly completely within a few months. This year we have held back only hunting it once every 2 weeks.

Yesterday we worked his cows. We got there early to bay and let them settle a while before penning them(they are a wild bunch) riding across the big pasture in the front I saw rooting everywhere you looked. Hay stacks gone thru and a big part of his hay field torn up right where this man drives to his pens. He did not seem pleased. He asked how often we were hunting it and asked us to come more often. Kill every one. Dog them shoot them whatever.

Bottom line, this man like many others makes a living from the land. He has just enuf cattle so as not to overgraze. With a place like his when you start reaching in your pocket to feed your loosing money. Guess what hogs have him in his pocket.

So at the end of the day my opinion would be so what. Hogs dead in a trap is better that hogs in a farmer or ranchers pocket. They are big hary cockroaches that molest the land.

[justincorbell]

I got some what of a "talking to" yesterday from a man who's place borders a place we hunt. We have permission to hunt it with the agreement we work his cows in the spring and fall free of charge. No big deal. This place is a honey hole. Last year we hunted it hard and ran the hogs out nearly completely within a few months. This year we have held back only hunting it once every 2 weeks.

Yesterday we worked his cows. We got there early to bay and let them settle a while before penning them(they are a wild bunch) riding across the big pasture in the front I saw rooting everywhere you looked. Hay stacks gone thru and a big part of his hay field torn up right where this man drives to his pens. He did not seem pleased. He asked how often we were hunting it and asked us to come more often. Kill every one. Dog them shoot them whatever.

Bottom line, this man like many others makes a living from the land. He has just enuf cattle so as not to overgraze. With a place like his when you start reaching in your pocket to feed your loosing money. Guess what hogs have him in his pocket.

So at the end of the day my opinion would be so what. Hogs dead in a trap is better that hogs in a farmer or ranchers pocket. They are big hary cockroaches that molest the land.

I would have to agree in that aspect but I also agree that its number 2ty to let an animal waste away and die........ the hogs in the traps probly didn't starve...heat will put a hog down QUICK without water even during this time of year......