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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 10:59:12 am »

buy a Garmin220 or 320! lol quick tract will get your dogs killed!
Ohh ok thanks. Smiley if you had any reading comprehension you would know that i already have a garmin. But thanks for the advice anyhow. Lol

You only got one good dog....just get rid of it and hunt that junk and you won't need that gadget....  Wink Cheesy

The junk you feed is the problem bryant. We had to wait until they quit a deer to go get my blue eyed darlin from four miles away. If we could of just headed to him instead of chasing bambie around i might not be feeling like i need a telemetry now. Wink

True no doubt.....but you just wish your dogs could run a deer that good  Grin

That's what I'm talking bout!!! Either be good or be good at it!!!  Evil
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2013, 07:13:34 pm »

buy a Garmin220 or 320! lol quick tract will get your dogs killed!
Ohh ok thanks. Smiley if you had any reading comprehension you would know that i already have a garmin. But thanks for the advice anyhow. Lol

You only got one good dog....just get rid of it and hunt that junk and you won't need that gadget....  Wink Cheesy

The junk you feed is the problem bryant. We had to wait until they quit a deer to go get my blue eyed darlin from four miles away. If we could of just headed to him instead of chasing bambie around i might not be feeling like i need a telemetry now. Wink

True no doubt.....but you just wish your dogs could run a deer that good  Grin

That's what I'm talking bout!!! Either be good or be good at it!!!  Evil

Hahaha, nailed it!
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2013, 10:46:28 pm »

Well i called my old as dirt uncle that used a telemetry system since they came out up until a few years ago while coon huntin. He said it sounds like you have a good strong system you just need to skip a channel. Huh? Anyhow i went down one channel and messed with the gain a little and i can walk right up to the collar with no 180 problems. The unit kinda squeaks instead of beeps but it works right up close. Once i get a hundred yards from the collar i can switch it back to the proper channel and get a good beep. I dont know if all the wildlifes operate like this one it is like the gain wont turn far enough down when you are close to the collars. Anyhow i guess i have figured out how to use this one...
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2013, 11:09:47 pm »

Here's my take. Removing an antenna from a radio receiver all but kills ur chance of getting a signal. If the signal is strong enough and close enough u can still pick it up thru the coax. Ur coax is part of the antenna as well.

Dropping to a lower channel in close range allows u to track the bleed over of the frequencies instead of the actual signal. A strong signal at close range can bleed over many frequencies.

If any if u have messed with cb's this should make sense. It's kinda like useing ur RF gain and ur needle on the radio to track down the turd head throwing a dead key. Radio interference in these units is understandable. With the high rf gain of these units I would bet wheelers running, truck running, or any other source of electrical power could interfere.

I do know if u gotta dog on the wheeler and u are looking at a distance the closest collars can bleed over several channels
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2013, 11:38:07 pm »

it should have an antenuator switch.turning it off cuts the range in half tobe better at pinpointing the collar.  on the led model u should be able to follow the lights an b just fine.  kinda hard to not get some kind of beep when u are that close.    WHEN IN DOUBT BUY A GARMIN 220 OR 32O!!! Evil
Wildlife 48 telemetry question: answer its going to get your dogs kill sooner or later!! wildlife picks up oil pumps , cell phones ,too much of a chance ! watch your going to go to a magnetic pump an see that your to late there dead ran over by a car or a hunter shoots your dog an your going to wish that u had only used the Garmin. oh well its your dead dogs u put to much trust in  them ....sell the dam dog number 2 your not teaching your others dogs nothing!!lol
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2013, 12:28:53 am »

garmins with the right antennas got range ! good dogs shut hogs down they don't run deer!
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2013, 12:39:09 am »

Ha ha. This thread is about to get good.

 Mud , I was under the impression you just started hunting. Please share where your mountain of knowledge stems from.
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2013, 05:12:28 am »

garmins with the right antennas got range ! good dogs shut hogs down they don't run deer!
Wow.....

Umm (scratch head) umm

Wow......
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2013, 06:16:01 am »

Peach...when your uncle says to skip a channel...doews he mean if you have a #10 collar to switch to 9 or 11 and check direction?

I had the mn10 for many years and that unit worked most of the time unless we had the big power lines crossing the woods...but if the dogs were at 12 oclock the signal would be weak at 10 0clock and would be at its strongest at 12 oclock and as we keep swinging to 2 oclock it starts fading out...and because the signal is at its strongest at 12 oclock that is the direction of the dogs...I bought the wildlife because I saw the good reports on here and also because I got a great price on an almost new system...after I get all my dc 40 collars I need I will buy me an MN system and cut out all the bull crap...now I can't speak for all the other brands but I have 4 nother friends that use the MN and they don't have problems with their units...an old bear hunter got me started on them...
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2013, 06:58:26 am »

So all the rest of us just have the wrong antenna on our Garmins??
Funny, I've got long ranges on my collars, another long range on my handheld and have even used the truck mounted one and the fact remains that sometimes REAL hog dogs get on a hog that pulls them out past what the Garmin can handle. Shoot there are rosehedge thickets on the coast so thick I loose gps reception at as short as 500 yards!

Combine that with the fact that I hunt with plenty of other folks ( because I like to see how my dogs compare to other folks dogs in the real world) and all of them have issues with their Garmins too?? Headscratcher Shocked

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2013, 07:06:41 am »

Garmin is a luxury... telemetry is insurance. I will find my dogs with my telemetry system when Garmin fails... which happens all the time to everyone I hunt with.

Muddog... WE USE GARMIN!!! Telemetry is a back up system these days. I don't even know what to say? Evidently you have no idea on how to use a telemetry system. You don't track to oil pumps or cell phones. Huh? Sure you get static interference from lots of things, but you're tracking a beep/signal from each individual collar.

I can take my Quick Track and track directly to a downed dog with pin point accuracy.... done it many, many times for myself and others over the years. When you get close, drop it to close range, turn your gain all the way down and barely bring it up to get a signal.
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2013, 08:42:51 am »

mike-im Sure you get static interference from lots of things, the power lines , alarms on oil pump ,  cell phones have given problems too xm radios that's the same pulses that gives u a interference! i have used the quick track for over a year ! I stop using it for that reason because i have lost good dogs an jagds at that! ya i see yall stand point on insurance to have a back up! but i do hunt south Texas brush an find garmin works just fine!
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2013, 08:48:47 am »

mike-im Sure you get static interference from lots of things, the power lines , alarms on oil pump ,  cell phones have given problems too xm radios that's the same pulses that gives u a interference! i have used the quick track for over a year ! I stop using it for that reason because i have lost good dogs an jagds at that! ya i see yall stand point on insurance to have a back up! but i do hunt south Texas brush an find garmin works just fine!

Need to come hunt our country, not so user friendly. Alot more pines here then you have I d say
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2013, 09:44:26 am »

Peach...when your uncle says to skip a channel...doews he mean if you have a #10 collar to switch to 9 or 11 and check direction?

I had the mn10 for many years and that unit worked most of the time unless we had the big power lines crossing the woods...but if the dogs were at 12 oclock the signal would be weak at 10 0clock and would be at its strongest at 12 oclock and as we keep swinging to 2 oclock it starts fading out...and because the signal is at its strongest at 12 oclock that is the direction of the dogs...I bought the wildlife because I saw the good reports on here and also because I got a great price on an almost new system...after I get all my dc 40 collars I need I will buy me an MN system and cut out all the bull crap...now I can't speak for all the other brands but I have 4 nother friends that use the MN and they don't have problems with their units...an old bear hunter got me started on them...

Exactly reuben. I had my collar 12 on and turned it back to 11 the unit tracked right to the collar. With it set on 12 it was like it was overloaded no matter how low i set the gain.
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2013, 11:16:16 am »

mike-im Sure you get static interference from lots of things, the power lines , alarms on oil pump ,  cell phones have given problems too xm radios that's the same pulses that gives u a interference! i have used the quick track for over a year ! I stop using it for that reason because i have lost good dogs an jagds at that! ya i see yall stand point on insurance to have a back up! but i do hunt south Texas brush an find garmin works just fine!

Need to come hunt our country, not so user friendly. Alot more pines here then you have I d say
bud i do hunt pines too in winnfeild, la....
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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2013, 03:53:42 pm »

Does Yall wildlife boxes not have an attenuator? I have the 1000 box and with the gain low and the atten on low it has no problem with close direction.

Garmin is a fun toy.....but is a far cry from the dependability of telemetry.
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2013, 09:15:17 pm »

Yes mine has one. But it doesnt tone my unit down enough to work close up. I talked to a friend today who explained what reuben was saying about disconnecting the antenna. This method worked very good for finding the collar at close range, just walk in the direction the beep gets louder.
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2013, 10:07:22 pm »



......couldnt resist!!!
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2013, 10:38:42 pm »

I have had Johnson tel. A Ted 1000 and noe have a trx10 that i  run w the garmin I find w the wildlife 10 it is very power full 50 or 60 feet I need to in plug my antenna to find the collar .the dogs do not leave w/o wildlife collar .I do agree w who ever said garmin can't keep up w a dog that leaves out telemetry may b old and the pass but it still finds the dog at the end of the day when the garmin has losted signal or the garmin collar won't track .I had more prob w garmin then I ever had w wildlife materials .
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2013, 09:43:42 pm »

mike-im Sure you get static interference from lots of things, the power lines , alarms on oil pump ,  cell phones have given problems too xm radios that's the same pulses that gives u a interference! i have used the quick track for over a year ! I stop using it for that reason because i have lost good dogs an jagds at that! ya i see yall stand point on insurance to have a back up! but i do hunt south Texas brush an find garmin works just fine!

Need to come hunt our country, not so user friendly. Alot more pines here then you have I d say
bud i do hunt pines too in winnfeild, la...

im not knocking your dogs but all i can say is they must not get out very far cause i hunt in winn, bienville, and natchitoches parishes all the time and my garmin  consistently fails when the dogs get to a little over 1000 yards, and yes i have the long range antennas on my collars and on the handheld and the only way i can track past 1000 yards is if both me and the dogs are in a open cutover. it makes me happy happy happy when a hunting buddy has a sorry ole telemetry collar that i can put on my dogs.
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