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« on: May 26, 2013, 06:07:00 pm »

I put several doses in a syringe and squirted appropriate dose in each dogs mouth.I was trying to be more effeciant with my time. Dog jumped and i pushed plunger to hard. and pushed about 2 ml in his mouth. think he will be ok. he's about 45 or 50 lbs.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 06:17:32 pm »

he will be fine!
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 06:41:56 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 04:44:23 pm »

Ditto he'll be ok I use 2ml in my dogs every other month but I use 1% are you using 2%?
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 04:54:25 pm »

Its very hard to overdose a dog on Ivomec.  For example:  when a dog has "red mange", the vet reccommended treatment is 1.5 times the normal body weight dosage, every day for 30 days minimum, 60 days if needed.  I had a dog several years ago that was a cull and I knew I was going to cull her, so just to see what would happen, I gave her a whole tube of Zimecterin paste horse wormer (which is Ivomec), enough for a 1250 lb horse, and the next day she was running around like no big deal and wasn't event sick.  2cc of Ivomec aint nothing.   
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 06:13:28 pm »

Its very hard to overdose a dog on Ivomec.  For example:  when a dog has "red mange", the vet reccommended treatment is 1.5 times the normal body weight dosage, every day for 30 days minimum, 60 days if needed.  I had a dog several years ago that was a cull and I knew I was going to cull her, so just to see what would happen, I gave her a whole tube of Zimecterin paste horse wormer (which is Ivomec), enough for a 1250 lb horse, and the next day she was running around like no big deal and wasn't event sick.  2cc of Ivomec aint nothing.   

The paste is 1.87 percent ivermectin and ivomec is 1 percent...I did the same with a pit bull that I was going to cull that was 4 or 5 years old and never been on heart worm prevention...like you I did some experimenting with him and he looked like he was having a heart attack later that evening and I gave him an aspirin and he lined back out...I believe I killed to many heartworms too fast and the aspirin thinned his blood to make it circulate better...JMO  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 10:11:11 pm »

Thanks for the info. I was nervous hes a good pup making a dog fast.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 10:02:43 am »

had a cane corso die from regular dose, gave my dogos same dose and were fine....

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 10:30:02 am »

Did that Cane Corso possibly have heart worms that cut loose and killed him?
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 10:36:11 am »

Contrary to speculation......Ivomec doesn't kill heart worms nor is it fatal if given to a dog that has heartworms.


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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 10:55:39 am »

  Bryant , it kills certain generations of heart worms , right ?

  Why would you purposely try to poison a dog ? I don't get it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 11:06:50 am »

   it kills the larva not the worm  .   if I ain't having a senior moment .
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 11:25:07 am »

Maybe I am wrong but I am almost positive that ivomec as well as other "heartworm treatments" do NOT kill the heartworms, the meds make the females sterile so once the worms have run their course and die off no new worms hatch.......this is what i've been told in the past if I am remembering right.........can anyone support this??
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 11:40:08 am »

X2 cantexduck.... Of your gonma cull a dog why do experiments on it. Just call it like a normal person
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 12:07:13 pm »

Ivomec kills off the microfilaria (baby heartworms) as well as sterilizes the adults to prevent breeding. Said adults will eventually die off. The average lifespan of an adult heartworm is 5 years. This is a good slow treatment best for dogs that are early on in their diagnosis. Technically, any dog being treated for heartworms is at risk of throwing a clot under high stress activity during it's duration of treatment, as the mature worms begin to die off.

Immiticide which is arsenic based (administered by a vet only) is the chemical that a dog can easily die from during treatment if not kept super calm and on cage rest, because it does kill adults as well, quickly, which can/will clog arteries when a dog get's too excitable. This is a route that is taken in most cases for dogs that have a moderate to severe heartworm infection. This is the treatment where dogs must be on strict cage rest.

Vets now are starting to use Doxycycline along side Ivermectin to treat heartworms. Apparently this is working very well according to studies, and is alot less stressful on the dog, and causes less inflammation.

 
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 12:09:48 pm »

My knowledge comes from working in the veterinary field for approx. 15 years of my life.. I don't know much about nothin, but I do know a good bit about veterinary medicine. Take it or leave it.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 12:51:37 pm »

Ivomec kills off the microfilaria (baby heartworms) as well as sterilizes the adults to prevent breeding. Said adults will eventually die off. The average lifespan of an adult heartworm is 5 years. This is a good slow treatment best for dogs that are early on in their diagnosis. Technically, any dog being treated for heartworms is at risk of throwing a clot under high stress activity during it's duration of treatment, as the mature worms begin to die off.

Immiticide which is arsenic based (administered by a vet only) is the chemical that a dog can easily die from during treatment if not kept super calm and on cage rest, because it does kill adults as well, quickly, which can/will clog arteries when a dog get's too excitable. This is a route that is taken in most cases for dogs that have a moderate to severe heartworm infection. This is the treatment where dogs must be on strict cage rest.

Vets now are starting to use Doxycycline along side Ivermectin to treat heartworms. Apparently this is working very well according to studies, and is alot less stressful on the dog, and causes less inflammation.

 
I was tryin like hell to remember that name. Pretty much exactly what you typed is what I have been told in the pasgt regarding heart-worms. thanks for taking the time to type it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 06:09:37 pm »

Did that Cane Corso possibly have heart worms that cut loose and killed him?
no he was 8mos old

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 07:15:05 pm »

Ivomec kills off the microfilaria (baby heartworms) as well as sterilizes the adults to prevent breeding. Said adults will eventually die off. The average lifespan of an adult heartworm is 5 years. This is a good slow treatment best for dogs that are early on in their diagnosis. Technically, any dog being treated for heartworms is at risk of throwing a clot under high stress activity during it's duration of treatment, as the mature worms begin to die off.

Immiticide which is arsenic based (administered by a vet only) is the chemical that a dog can easily die from during treatment if not kept super calm and on cage rest, because it does kill adults as well, quickly, which can/will clog arteries when a dog get's too excitable. This is a route that is taken in most cases for dogs that have a moderate to severe heartworm infection. This is the treatment where dogs must be on strict cage rest.

Vets now are starting to use Doxycycline along side Ivermectin to treat heartworms. Apparently this is working very well according to studies, and is alot less stressful on the dog, and causes less inflammation.

 
I was tryin like hell to remember that name. Pretty much exactly what you typed is what I have been told in the pasgt regarding heart-worms. thanks for taking the time to type it.

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 12:06:19 am »

  I had a dog several years ago that was a cull and I knew I was going to cull her, so just to see what would happen, I gave her a whole tube of Zimecterin paste horse wormer (which is Ivomec), enough for a 1250 lb horse

I hope that's some kind of sick joke. Some people just shouldn't be able to own animals.

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