Opinions please

[djhogdogger]

I have never had this problem before so I wanted to see if any of yall have encountered this. We have a litter of 9 week old puppies that are all being kept in a large pen together with their mother. There are eight pups. 6 males and 2 females. The largest male of the litter quickly became the most dominate one at feeding time. Pretty normal.

A few days ago we heard a pup screaming. It was the large dominant male being attacked by another male. James had to go in the pen and separate them. The pup doing the attacking wouldnt stop. He had to whip him. As soon as. James exited the pen it started again. I went in and broke it up. Two seconds later another pup jumped on the big male pup and started ripping on him. The rest of the litter joined in. I removed the big male pup from the pen and all was peaceful again.

I tried to put him back in the pen today thinking that they have had time to cool down......nope.....they immediately jumped him again. So I removed him again.

My question is have yall ever heard of a litter of puppies deciding to single out one pup to try and kill? Maybe the runt but not the largest most dominant male?!?!?!

[justincorbell]

Can't say that i've heard of that in the past Mrs. Dinah but if they won't quit beatin on him him you know who to send him to. He will have a big ol pen almost all to himself 

[halfbreed]

   yep !  dogs with any grit at all will eventually get tired of being picked on and dominated .  and usually the bully of the bunch will get his behind handed back to him  lol  . once the rest of the pups figure out that ol bad behind is not so bad , well then it is payback time .  it's not unusual at all seen it many times  .  kinda like when the school bully gets his nose broke by the little guy that he has been picking on ,and runs home crying ,  well then the rest of the class will break his nose too   lol  

[justincorbell]

  yep !  dogs with any grit at all will eventually get tired of being picked on and dominated .  and usually the bully of the bunch will get his behind handed back to him  lol  . once the rest of the pups figure out that ol bad behind is not so bad , well then it is payback time .  it's not unusual at all seen it many times  .  kinda like when the school bully gets his nose broke by the little guy that he has been picking on ,and runs home crying ,  well then the rest of the class will break his nose too   lol  

makes pretty good sense to me and I know for a FACT them pups are full of grit based off momma and daddy!

[KevinN]

Not in those numbers. Pretty typical when you have 2-4 pups. Fight starts and everyone piles on one. Never seen it, but I Guess it could happen in large numbers as well. I Would think the pups would work it out and settle down after a bit though.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Yep, I've seen that plenty

[CDS]

I've always been told that dogs are just like people. You show favoritism to one and the rest will get jealous. I don't know how true it is but it does make since.

[djhogdogger]

  yep !  dogs with any grit at all will eventually get tired of being picked on and dominated .  and usually the bully of the bunch will get his behind handed back to him  lol  . once the rest of the pups figure out that ol bad behind is not so bad , well then it is payback time .  it's not unusual at all seen it many times  .  kinda like when the school bully gets his nose broke by the little guy that he has been picking on ,and runs home crying ,  well then the rest of the class will break his nose too   lol  

Thank you. This makes sense to me. But I figurednthat they would whoop his behind and be done with it. I didnt go into detail since this is a public forum but lets just say that the other pups made it clear that they want this one dead.     Ive just never seen such ferocity in two month old pups.

[djhogdogger]

Can't say that i've heard of that in the past Mrs. Dinah but if they won't quit beatin on him him you know who to send him to. He will have a big ol pen almost all to himself 

I will send you a message.

[dub]

Yup, I go in at the first fight grab both by the scruff of the neck and pick them up. To make it clear that I am in charge and don't put up with it. But at nine weeks I would just pull him out and put him on food maybe add some suppliments. But I would do that before things get bad and you have to cull any dog.

[djhogdogger]

I've always been told that dogs are just like people. You show favoritism to one and the rest will get jealous. I don't know how true it is but it does make since.

Lol, this wasnt favoritism. This large male isnt one that I had planned on keeping.

[djhogdogger]

Yup, I go in at the first fight grab both by the scruff of the neck and pick them up. To make it clear that I am in charge and don't put up with it. But at nine weeks I would just pull him out and put him on food maybe add some suppliments. But I would do that before things get bad and you have to cull any dog.

Oh yea, that was the first thing to happen..... didnt phaze them at all. This was so supprising to us. Picked the aggrssing pup up by the scruff and he never let go of the other one. Had to pry him off. ?....These are curs not pits!

[justincorbell]

Can't say that i've heard of that in the past Mrs. Dinah but if they won't quit beatin on him him you know who to send him to. He will have a big ol pen almost all to himself 

I will send you a message.

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[T-Bob Parker]

Dinah, these are half bro half sister bred pups aren't they? You may end up with a pack o trouble! 

[djhogdogger]

Dinah, these are half bro half sister bred pups aren't they? You may end up with a pack o trouble! 

No. Actually the mother was bred back to her maternal uncle. Lol

[Shotgun wg]

I prolly wouldn't have broke them up the first time. But I want to see the dogs at a year old. Them dudes are probly gonna be something.

[djhogdogger]

I prolly wouldn't have broke them up the first time. But I want to see the dogs at a year old. Them dudes are probly gonna be something.

With puppies we usually dont interfere and its usually over in a few minutes. This went on far too long. We had to break it up. I didny want to have to stitch a pup up.

Yes, they should be pretty gritty. Their parents are gritty and since these are line bred, im thinking maybe that trait has been intensified.

[uglydog]

Yes had in my Terriers, dont raise them no more, my curs and catchdogs, no, I dont have that hot temperment that early, I see that early going to see it later, can can curb it but I dont want dogsd I have to work that hard with

[djhogdogger]

Yes had in my Terriers, dont raise them no more, my curs and catchdogs, no, I dont have that hot temperment that early, I see that early going to see it later, can can curb it but I dont want dogsd I have to work that hard with

Well, our adult dogs would never tollerate being housed with other adult dogs but they do fine hunting together. So if the pups turn out this way, I will be fine with it. However, if they brawl while on a hunt, that will be a different story. The dogs that we have may have tried fighting on a hunt once but quickly learned that it will not be allowed. It usually only takes one correction. Cant catch hogs if the dogs dont get along and hunt as a pack.

[justincorbell]

Yes had in my Terriers, dont raise them no more, my curs and catchdogs, no, I dont have that hot temperment that early, I see that early going to see it later, can can curb it but I dont want dogsd I have to work that hard with

Well, our adult dogs would never tollerate being housed with other adult dogs but they do fine hunting together. So if the pups turn out this way, I will be fine with it. However, if they brawl while on a hunt, that will be a different story. The dogs that we have may have tried fighting on a hunt once but quickly learned that it will not be allowed. It usually only takes one correction. Cant catch hogs if the dogs dont get along and hunt as a pack.

mine have always been the same way, as long as I can remember and with multiple different dogs thru the years, never a problem in the woods but they don't tolerate being penned together at the house.