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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2013, 08:17:38 pm »

Ms Kate....

Look, I am very sorry if you are taking offense to anything that I have been writing here. Nothing I have written here has been intended as a personal attack, on ANYone. Most folks here know me as a very respectable individual, because I am. If anything, all I have been doing is sharing insight about a particular breed that I have an abundance of knowledge on and experience with. Not pointing fingers or passing judgement on any individuals.

I think both you and your husband have missed the point of all of my personal input to this thread. Not much I can do about that beyond clarifying myself as I have just done.

I can buy that... Perhaps I have mistaken your "abundance" of knowledge for something else.  But I'm willing to admit that to you.  As I am also willing to admit everyone is different, and I respect differences even when it is not something I would necessarily do myself.

All I'm saying is, no matter how much "abundance" of knowledge anyone has does not mean that they are the expert on everything.  And yes, as a matter of fact, I do take offense to some of the assumptions that were made in your personal input.  But I've said my piece and don't feel the need to sit here and explain myself to authenticate who I am and what I know.  I've got a pack of dogs out back that I'm dying to spend time with.

Have a good evening. 

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Alrighty then. First of all, this IS indeed a public forum, where we ALL are entitled to our opinions, thoughts, and insight, and we ALL have a right to share if done so in a proper manner. I am by NO means an expert. Never said I was. I don't know much about nothing, but I darn sure do have good credible knowledge on this specific breed of dog, and I was sharing that. If that offends you, you are reading WAY too far into my writings. For your one post taking things that I have written on a general subject personally, I've received positive feedback from multiple folks on here. Far as I know you're the only one that managed to be offended by something I have written. I don't even know what dog of yours you are talking about in your first reply on this thread. Sorry for whatever happened to him. Has zero to do with me. By reading how offended you are right now, you'd think I was personally attacking you and your husband here. I have been only speaking of general scenarios, not picking at anyone personally. I even went as far as to apologize to you, and meant it, if my writing offended you in some way for lord knows what reasons. Offended maybe because you have a different standpoint than I on bulldogs in general? No need to be offended if that's the case. If I got offended by everyone I've come across that has different general views than I, I'd be a very stressed out person.

Anyway, I'm lost.  Huh? Must have missed something.

I enjoy trying to share insight on things on these forums, but the rare occasion of incidents such as this really make me not want to bother being productive and sharing in conversation anymore. GOOD GRIEF.
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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2013, 08:25:56 pm »

Also lemme just add.....I have had these dogs for a lot of years. I HAVE experienced yard accidents, and even freak accidents, and even pure human error accidents..... but I have learned from them the hard way, and try to SHARE what I have learned from such scenarios with others so that maybe they can have some helpful knowledge and not have to go through what I have in the past.

If Anything I ever post helps even just ONE person in even the slightest way, I'm happy.
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« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2013, 08:39:45 pm »

Keep raising and puttin that "super handle" on them  badarse "game bred" dogs and be happy about it but theres no damn reason for you to get on here and preach that we are wrong because we dont do it your way.....just because you own 5 "game bred" dogs dang sure don't make you the authority on training dogs!!!! This is directed at 1 person and he knows who im talkin to. I respect your opinion until it starts bashing other people.

I don't own and will never own a "game bred" pit.....i've got absolutely no reason to own a dog that was tightly bred for generations on generations to fight to the death......  i've got absolutely nothing against those that do until they try to push their views/techniques down my throat and say people with the same views as myself are wrong and lost.....my bulldog is no more a "game bred" bulldog than the plott pup in my back yard.....sure at one point 100's of years ago she may have some "game dog" in her but its so diluted its not even funny....she is a dang designer type pit whose mom and dad got bred by some hood rat to make a dollar because they were blue!.....but guess what, she works her tail off for me and does what i want her to do when i want her to do it.......so I'll stick to my watered down, adult, dirt cheap hood rat bulldogs that need nothin more than a second chance  and that more often than not that do everything I need and act exactly how i want them to...... my blue female would get her butt handed to her by any curr in my yard and that just how i like it.... I don't need a herd of "gamebred" dogs to do what 1 decent run of the mill bulldog will.......
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« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 08:59:14 pm »

Ms Kate....

Look, I am very sorry if you are taking offense to anything that I have been writing here. Nothing I have written here has been intended as a personal attack, on ANYone. Most folks here know me as a very respectable individual, because I am. If anything, all I have been doing is sharing insight about a particular breed that I have an abundance of knowledge on and experience with. Not pointing fingers or passing judgement on any individuals.

I think both you and your husband have missed the point of all of my personal input to this thread. Not much I can do about that beyond clarifying myself as I have just done.

I can buy that... Perhaps I have mistaken your "abundance" of knowledge for something else.  But I'm willing to admit that to you.  As I am also willing to admit everyone is different, and I respect differences even when it is not something I would necessarily do myself.

All I'm saying is, no matter how much "abundance" of knowledge anyone has does not mean that they are the expert on everything.  And yes, as a matter of fact, I do take offense to some of the assumptions that were made in your personal input.  But I've said my piece and don't feel the need to sit here and explain myself to authenticate who I am and what I know.  I've got a pack of dogs out back that I'm dying to spend time with.

Have a good evening. 

Oooo-weee! Wow.  Shocked

Alrighty then. First of all, this IS indeed a public forum, where we ALL are entitled to our opinions, thoughts, and insight, and we ALL have a right to share if done so in a proper manner. I am by NO means an expert. Never said I was. I don't know much about nothing, but I darn sure do have good credible knowledge on this specific breed of dog, and I was sharing that. If that offends you, you are reading WAY too far into my writings. For your one post taking things that I have written on a general subject personally, I've received positive feedback from multiple folks on here. Far as I know you're the only one that managed to be offended by something I have written. I don't even know what dog of yours you are talking about in your first reply on this thread. Sorry for whatever happened to him. Has zero to do with me. By reading how offended you are right now, you'd think I was personally attacking you and your husband here. I have been only speaking of general scenarios, not picking at anyone personally. I even went as far as to apologize to you, and meant it, if my writing offended you in some way for lord knows what reasons. Offended maybe because you have a different standpoint than I on bulldogs in general? No need to be offended if that's the case. If I got offended by everyone I've come across that has different general views than I, I'd be a very stressed out person.

Anyway, I'm lost.  Huh? Must have missed something.

I enjoy trying to share insight on things on these forums, but the rare occasion of incidents such as this really make me not want to bother being productive and sharing in conversation anymore. GOOD GRIEF.

Lol! Again, have a good night. You deserve one.  No need to put so much thought into it.  And yes ma'am, your first few sentences there are exactly what I've been gettin at.. . Maybe to clear up some of your confusion, wine6978 is my husband.  And don't worry, like I said, have said my piece so I am over it all.  Life is much bigger than this here post.
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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 09:27:49 pm »

SO to all of you that say that it's the owners fault, you can hypothesize and theorize all you want, you can throw every which story and every which circumstance out there you want, but the thing is, until it happens to you, you can't sit behind a computer screen and call the shots for someone you don't know.   And I hope that you do not have something like this happen in your yard, because I can tell you it is a tough pill to swallow.  

The fact of the matter is the ones that I see making that point are not "hypothesizing or theorizing" they are the ones that have most certainly dealt with it in the past and have learned from it. They are trying to pass that hard earned knowledge on to folks that may not be as educated/experienced in the subject matter.

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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2013, 06:39:58 am »

Justin , I'm truly sorry to offended you or any one else on this forum , I've have learnt a way that works , your right , I get so tired of aggression post , and bull dog bashers , if only they would take the time to work the dog , unleash the chained or penned up frustration of the dog , my views are the same , folks can learn by them or ignore them as you chose to do , some folks use there dogs as tools only , I care and truly love my dogs , I want the best out of them , I want them to listen , do exactly what I say ,  be in the best shape they possibly can , no aggression issues ,then when they do hit the trip factor , they have handle beyond comprehension , this is my way , sorry to push anything on any one , I think if you don't do this you will have problems and aggression post crying about what to do and by then it's to late , sorry again MR. JUSTIN AND WHO EVER ELSE I AFFENDED
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2013, 07:37:08 am »

Justin , I'm truly sorry to offended you or any one else on this forum , I've have learnt a way that works , your right , I get so tired of aggression post , and bull dog bashers , if only they would take the time to work the dog , unleash the chained or penned up frustration of the dog , my views are the same , folks can learn by them or ignore them as you chose to do , some folks use there dogs as tools only , I care and truly love my dogs , I want the best out of them , I want them to listen , do exactly what I say ,  be in the best shape they possibly can , no aggression issues ,then when they do hit the trip factor , they have handle beyond comprehension , this is my way , sorry to push anything on any one , I think if you don't do this you will have problems and aggression post crying about what to do and by then it's to late , sorry again MR. JUSTIN AND WHO EVER ELSE I AFFENDED

lol......I can promise you 1 thing, you ain't gonna see me on here crying about aggression issues regarding any of my dogs! I get tired of those posts too, can't say i've seen many bulldog bashers on here but regardless I get what you are saying but you have to realize that you are comparing apples to oranges and myself as well as many others do things different and it works for us. I understand the precautions one must take when owning and working "gamebred" dogs, thats why I choose not to own any...bulldoggin is illegal here and pretty much everywhere and there isn't much else to do with a gamebred dog besides hog hunt or weight-pull, I choose to hog hunt with other lines.......I understand that you and others more than likely are doing it to keep the lines going and I respect the hell out of that because if you don't who will? (I do mean that Bob, in all honesty I do, no sarcasm intended) But not everyone owns those type dogs therefore training options will vary depending on the individual's wants/needs....... I care for my dogs as well and for you to insinuate otherwise is amusing to me BUT I have realistic expectations and know all to well that all the protection in the world (vests, collars etc) won't ALWAYS save a dog....if you hunt enough you will see it first hand as well....I feed my dogs because they feed me, they ain't pets, they are working dogs, just the way it is......the bulldog is there for 1 reason and 1 reason alone....to catch the hog........... I'm done with this thread and won't be posting on here anymore because it is getting nowhere.....if you would like feel free to PM me and we can continue this discussion, otherwise i'll go my way and you go yours.......
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2013, 12:48:35 am »

I run gamebred dogs. My partners best catch is a blue bitch straight from the pound. She will strike her own hog also! 2 ways to skin a pig
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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2013, 05:00:49 pm »

My dad always said if  you dont want to get kicked by a horse, don't walk behind one.  We only had one horse.  My friend had a ranch with more than one. I told him what my dad said and his response was is you all ranchers like us? I replied no.  Around 3 mos. Later he comes to school with a broker arm.  Hey what happened?  He replied I walked behind horse, horse got spooked, then kicked.  Wow I said. He said it is ok my dad had that stupid horse put down. Wait sorry guys im on the wrong forum . I thought I was on the equine forum. My apologies.
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2013, 06:09:31 pm »

If my dogs (of any breed) are put in a position to fight...it's my fault. If during that fight, one ends up dead...it's my fault.



X2...Scott.and Mrs Louisiana....


100 percent agree...when I own a bulldog (pitbull) I never let them run around unsupervised an I am ready to interfere quickly if needed...I treat them like a loaded pistol...because they tend to finish what they start once they fire up...
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