weatherford ben dogs

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  I understand that every pup out of line cannot be an ace in the woods.  However, look at the consistency on the Wright Curs???  There is a huge percentage of them that make good dogs.  To me that is pretty impressive.  If there was ever anyone that bought a dog from Mr. Wright and was not satisfied he would replace them or give you your money back in a heart beat.  If you don't beleive me just call him.  Also he will not just register anything.  I personally think that is great.  It is clearly not about money to him.  He is totally committed to the breed and the registry.  Also to bettering his dogs and so on.  He is the kinda guy that will tell you exactly how it is and some folks don't take that well.  Me I like it!  I don't like wondering where I stand with someone.  I would encourage anyone that has not personally talked with Randy to do so.  I feel you would walk away with a lot different of an objective, rather than just going off of hearsay.
 Here is a prime example:
   He has some awesome stud dogs and he referred me to another man with a dog that he felt would better suit my needs.  He didn't care about getting a huge stud fee from me.  He wanted me to make an awesome cross that blow the socks off people.  To me that is clearly caring about the breed and making something even better.  The female in question is Wrights Senorita (the mother of Sage and Pistolero) now you can't tell me that he just didn't want to breed to her:)  Alot of breeders on that caliber of a female would have been chomping at the bit.  However, Randy wanted to do what he felt was best for me and he has absolutely nothing to gain.
 It's sounds like I am a Randy Wright fan!  Well your right I am.  Anyone that has his passion about this breed, never comprimises quality and would rather do the right thing than line his own pockets.   To me that is a man that deserves respect and the decency of a phone call with questions.  Instead of surmizing what doesn't work thru hearsay.
  Also these dogs are bred to be rougher than your average dog.  Where I hunt you need that.  You just don't run a lot of rough dogs together.  That's when you run into trin wrecks.  Those that have hunted a while know what I mean.  I'm just one of those guys that likes to get it done and move on to the next hog   I am not trying to call anyone out on anything I have said.  I just felt I had to state the facts of what I know to be true.  I would do the same for anyone.
 Thanks for reading this long posts and omitting my horrible spelling:)       

[Randy_P]

I agree 100% with Gilbert.  I recently purchased two pups from David Thoms who is close friend to Randy. While talking to him and visiting his place he to is a man who wants to better the breed instead of lining his pockets and ALWAYS give a 1 yr guarantee on each pup to work on what you put it to work on...(cow, hog, etc) Extremely nice man.  If it does not work bring it back get another or get your money back.  He also states that any female he sells is worthy to be bred to any male dog and will discuss what you are wanting to accomplish in the breeding and suggest to right male on his yard or send you to the male he thinks will suit you best.  Always straight up and honest.  There is alot of truth behind Gilberts comment about Randy producing so many dogs that become good hard working dogs.  You are always going to get a bad one in every bunch.  Sorry for the ones that had that dog and did not get to hunt behind a really good Wrights Cur.  Just my 2 cents.

[hogtied]

sounds like a good feller, id like to meet him one day and get another male pup from him, had one I got a while back and was making a dam good dog... he was way too rough tho and didnt make a year old... got a gyp showing lots of promise thats suppose to be ben bred but no papers so never will no if she is or not

[crackerc]

jdt,

Maybe those are some of the W Ben dogs I have hunted with because they sure were not gritty as the guys on this board say theirs are. Maybe they sent the least gritty dogs to Fla because we already had the Fla curs and they figured we didn't need more bite........

Honestly though guys, I am not trying to bad mouth the W Ben dogs, I went hunting with the ones down here HOPING they would be what I liked. None of the dozen or so I have hunted with in Fla, satisfied me.

Here is a pic of my buddies W Ben female. He told me what percentage she was but I don't remember.  She was younger in this pic, is older and spayed now. She had plenty of go, but no bite at all. And almost no tail.

If anyone in Fla has a W Ben dog that wil hunt by himself, find, stop and bay a hog by himself, until you get there, and help catch with a catchdog, let me know I would like to come hunt with him. Maybe then I will have a different opinion of them.

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  I guess the thing that I don't understand is Randy has never sold 11 dogs to a guy in Florida.  Not at one time or even spaced out.  The dogs in question, are dogs not only that he didn't breed but has never owned.  As I understood it was said earlier on that these dogs came from Randy.  If that's so and memory serves me correctly, that is a lie. 

[crackerc]

The guys name that bought the 11 dogs from Randy Wright was named Marty Stephens from Tampa, Fla. This was back in about the year 2000 or 2001 if I remember right. I can't remember all the dogs names but one was named Uno and the only one I saw bay a hog was named Wylie. He also had a female named Silver he brought back. Marty brought the dogs 1-2 at a time and we hunted them (or tried to) on the ranch I managed. According to Marty these dogs came directly from Randy Wright and I think the Uno dog was a direct son of W Ben. He was an older dog and the only one Marty didn't want to hunt as he wanted him for breeding purposes.

I also remember Marty bringing a few horses back from Tx on that trip.  Don't know where he got the horses.

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  Randy sent me a email and the dogs registered in Martys name all came from others not Randy.  I have the names of the dogs and exactly where they came from.  Mr. Stephens has not bought a dog from Randy.  I will go back to that email and confirm everything.

[crackerc]

Then I was lied to as I was told these dogs came directly from Randy Wright. I had no reason to suspect Marty had lied to me as he drove out to Tx just to buy W Ben dogs.

I think I still have a number for Marty around somewhere, I may call him up and ask him where he got those dogs.....be interesting to see what he tells me.

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  Here are the facts!  I looked back and he did buy one dog from Randy Wright.   Wright's Sonny Reata was the only dog bought from Randy and she was a bred female, when he bought her.  The other dogs were bought from other breeders and I do have their names and the dogs names.  Not sure if I am allowed to list them on here though.  Marty had one dog that went back to Weathorford Ben and it only went back to him once.  I will lists the dogs names for proof as I don't feel I can get into trouble for that.  I'll go check it out and repost. 

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

Here you go: Isaacs Bull P832 bred by Keith in Rusk TX,  Stephens Sugar bred by Sam Piper, Stephens Sassy P922 bred by TLS Curs, Stephens Yellow Jake P922 (in the female he bought bred), Wright's Texas Ginny bought from Danny Jack in Georgia and the other dogs came from Ron Bass in Florida.
  The only dog he bought from Randy was the Reata female and Randy got her back from him.  All I am saying is you were misinformed and it's wrong for this all to be on Randy.  How would you like it if you saw a post like this and it wasn't true?  Here are the facts in black and white.  I'm not anything against you or anything it's just that hearssay mess can hurt some innocent people.  I personally will not post something unless it is 100% the truth.       
               

[johnie]

Im pretty sure the Uno dog came from Lamon Silva i believe thats his name. I was trying to buy the dog years back, told me he sent him and numerous other dogs to Florida.

[dgdawsonBMCs]

I don't think anyone was talking bad about Randy, just showing that not all the dogs are as good at producing as some..When you sell that many dogs, not all of them are going to be the best...You can't produce all great dogs, and if you could we would all have them...

[ESTEBAN_B]

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[ESTEBAN_B]

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  Hey Dawson,
      I agree with you and have said before that everyone of them can't be aces.  I just hit on the point that a majority of them are pretty good dogs.  The only reason I stuck my nose in the comments about the 11 dogs was because that was some misinformed stuff.  I felt it only right to point out that the 11 dogs from Randy with only 1 of them panning out was not true.  I'm not saying that Cracker made that up I just felt it important to point out.  It just sounds aweful and is even more awweful that it's not true.  Put yourself in his shoes.  If that was said and not true.  I bet you would be a little upset.  

[BoggerCountyHogHunter]

  Nice pics Esteban!!

[ESTEBAN_B]

THIS IS MY WEATHERFORD BEN FOUNDATION BMC, ''ROCKET''  YELLOW JACKET BLOODLINE IS HIGH ON THIS DOG, HE IS A VERY GOOD DOG THAT HAS BEEN HUNTED SINCE HE WAS 7 MONTHS OLD! I AM VERY SATISFIED WITH MY DOGS ! I WILL PUT MY HANDS IN THE FIRE FOR MR. WRIGHTS DOGS!!

[ESTEBAN_B]

THANKS GILBERT!

[crackerc]

Then I stand corrected. All I know is what I was told at the time. I know Marty talked to Randy Wright several times prior to him going to Tx as I heard some of the phone conversations.

Marty wanted some of the W Ben dogs and that was the source. Now Randy may have sent him to these other guys if he didn't have what Marty wanted. But thats not what I was told.

I DO know that the YBM dogs Marty brought back were not very good dogs in my opinion. I don't care if they came from Randy Wright or Santa Claus. We hunted the Wylie dog on a private ranch full of hogs for weeks before he finally bayed  a hog by himself. Meanwhile other dogs were baying hogs every trip on the same property. When he finally did bay it was a 150 lb or so boar hog. The hog ran him, cut him in one place, and as we were going in to catch the hog with my Rock dog, Wylie quit the hog and passed us on the cow trail going to the truck. We caught the hog with Rock, with no bay dog. And the other dogs we hunted that Marty brought back never bayed a hog while I was hunting with them....ever.

Again, I will ask if anyone close to me has a W Ben dog they think is a top dog, let me know I want to hunt with him. I have never been to Tx and don't see myself headed that way anytime soon, so I won't be hunting with any dogs out there. But, I want to see the dog hunt by himself, that way you can tell what dog is finding the hogs. If he is a good dog I will be the first to admit it.  I WANT to see a good one hunt, just hasn't happened yet.

I don't see the Uno dog mentioned in your post (or Wylie or the Silver dog), I am pretty sure Uno was a son of W Ben. Where did that dog come from?