weatherford ben dogs

[crackerc]

Texas_Cur I like the looks of that Sambo dog. He looks almost like some of these Fla dogs, and sounds about as rough. I can't tell from the pic but is he long tail, half tail, or?

You said he is a Foundation Cur, you mean the W Ben YBM or something else?

[dgdawsonBMCs]

Foundation is a breeders association...Foundation stock would be any dog from that association...Weatherford's Ben was the top stud dog for that assocaiation, but there were many good dogs that went into the founation so to speak...WB gets all the credit, but there were many good dogs involved..He is just the most well known...That is why I believe in looking for specific dogs in the WB line..

[Circle C]

dgdawson,

      I agree. I think that WB for the dog world is like Doc Bar for the horse world...Studded out so much that you really do have to start looking at individuals within the line to have a better idea of what you're getting.

[AW]

I agree thats why I like the Rio Grande Blondie bred dogs. I think my female is a hybrid outcross I could be wrong but I think Wrights Sam I Am has 0% Weatherford Ben and thats her sire I will look at her papers when I get home.

[crackerc]

None of my Fla dogs are registered so I don't know much about the Cur registries...now AQHA records (performance horses) I know. I had cutting bred horses for 25+ years. Finally realized how much it was costing me so I got out of them! Almost all cutting bred horses have Doc Bar in them, but there were a few outcross sires like Freckles Playboy, Peppy San Badger, etc that had no Doc Bar.

I assume the YBM dogs would be the same way, lots would have W Ben in their pedigree but some wouldn't.

So is the Sambo dog W Ben bred? He looks different than the Ben dogs I have seen.

[curdogsforhogs]

I know there are guys on here that know more about FBMC than I ever will but would appreciate it if you take alook at the papers on my Soggy Bottom Bill and tell me if you know anything about the dogs in his line. I am more into Catahoulas but am working a few BMC into my line ever since I laid hands on Bill and saw how awsome he was already. Thanks

[Circle C]

Sambo is WB bred, not sure which line, I am pretty sure he was bred by Mary in Louisiana (the bear dog lady)


Cracker, My analogy might have been missed with the Doc Bar comment... I agree that Doc Bar is in a TON of pedigrees, so people narrow it down more by a particular line  Doc O Lena, Dry Doc, Handlebar Doc, etc.  Some people say I have a Doc Bar bred,,, others narrow it saying, I have a Doc O Lena bred....  I think the same is now done with the WB bred dogs, yes they go back to WB, but there are "distinct" lines from his get.

[matt_aggie04]

The dog in the middle is a WB bred dog, Tater.  He came from Corry Flannery in Florida and is out of Ben's Buck and Flannery's Josie.  He is not a super dog at all but a decent dog.  He started naturally young and is the only pup I have never broke off of trash.  Showed a hog at 5 months old and he went to it like a duck to water.  Not gritty and will bay good and loose, shot a several many hogs over him.  I bred him to the gyp on the left and I feel he reproduced his self very well and 7 or 8 of the 9 pups she raised are all working good for their owners.

[dgdawsonBMCs]

Really, for me the specific WB line is/should be the offspring of WB...i tell people I have Yellow Jacket dogs...Once I see the expression on their face, I will go further if I need to....Not everyone has heard about the Jack line (Yellow Jacket), but most know about WB...

Speaking of Rio Grande Blonde, I have a friend who has a 75% Rio dog that he is breeding to a 75%Weatherford's Ben dog.....In addition, the other 25% of the Rio dog is WB too....So, will have puppies that are 50 %ben and 37.5% Rio...They will not be cheap..

[AW]

I really like my gyp and I know of two Males close to me that are jam up dogs they are brothers and they are Rio bred. Someone told me that the Rio blood produced longer range dogs and I know she was a tree dog.I read they didn't breed her as much because there was not alot of need for tree dog traits in a cattle catching operation.

[LAWLERSHOGWILDHUNTS]

I paid pretty good money for a registered yellow dog bread from the original Weatherford Ben bloodline.  His name is Zane.  He is seven months old and wants to catch everything under 60lbs.  he has a beautiful bark.  We use pit bulls for catch dogs but Zane can stay up there with the other strike dogs until the catch dogs get there.  He is not scared, thats for sure.

[Texas_Cur]

Texas_Cur I like the looks of that Sambo dog. He looks almost like some of these Fla dogs, and sounds about as rough. I can't tell from the pic but is he long tail, half tail, or?

You said he is a Foundation Cur, you mean the W Ben YBM or something else?

Cracker,
     Thanks.  I noticed some similarities between Sambo and your Monkey dog too.  He has a long tail.  Some of the dogs that I can remember from his pedigree are: Weatherfords Ben, Rio Grande Blondie, Wrights Bounty Hunter, Wrights Texas Dally.  The sire is Wrights Sam I Am, and the dame is Wrights Silly Sally.

Here is Sambo doing what he does best


This is a gyp I have out of Matt's big male Tater. She is a year old and hunting her but off.  She has WB blood in her and I would consider her the polar opposite of Sam on everything except that they are yellow.  She is extremely busy (kinda like a cur dog on crack).  She ranges out to about 400-500 yards.  She is a little gritty but for the most part prefers to bark at a hog.  If you want to talk about a dog that is not for sale this pot licker is one of em.
Peachez

[AW]

I checked the papers and Sam I Am does not carry any WB blood. I think that makes the litter an outcross but I don't really know. My gyp was born bobtail.

[Texas_Cur]

AW,
     You are correct.  All of Weatherford blood that Sam has comes from his momma.  Sam I Am is Rio Grande Blondie Blood I believe, but I would have to look at the papers. 

[dgdawsonBMCs]

If you are wondering about those dogs, they could have some of WB blood in them before WB was born if you know what I mean..some of those blondy dogs were around before WB.. Ben was out of Bauman's ben and bonnie....Bauman's Ben was out of Ben Jordans Henry dog...Henry came in part from a dog called blondie...There isn't any paperwork to look at, but Ben Jordan or Clue Anderson would probably know for sure...

Wright is the first one to paper some of those dogs, so can't trace them that way...WB was foundation # 80 I believe..I guess what I am trying to say is that most of these dogs are related blood wise if you go back far enough...

[crackerc]

Texas_Cur I do like the looks of that Sambo dog but his head looks different than the W Ben dogs I have seen in person (at least in the pic).

The female you posted a pic of looks like all the W Ben dogs I have seen which is about a dozen total.

I have a buddy that has a W Ben female (the one that won't bite a hog). He had her spayed (never bred her) and doesn't hunt her anymore. I will see if I can dig up a pic of her and post it. She has almost no tail at all.

[jdt]

crackerc , i know of some " foundation " dogs down your way that look like crap . i think its from breeding too tight , i dont know , i ve only seen the picturese and i wont call any names . just like any other line / breed , there are good ones , and then some that have been watered down .   there is a difference between people that use them , and people that sell pups !

[wrangler]

This a is a female pup I got from Yellow Dog, she is 37.5 % Weatherford Ben.
This is her at 3 months old.
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[dgdawsonBMCs]

Bob is a friend of mine in our network...Is that a Tank pup?

[wrangler]

Yes, that is one of Tanks pups.