Rangy dogs good or bad.

[Jason Dunn]

I been trying to get dogs that range out and having good sucess with cur hound crosses I would like to hear about some rangy dogs and what was their breeding like and did they produce more hogs for you. On the down side these dogs are trashy and hard to catch but will get out and hunt.

[BA-IV]

It's all in how and where you hunt in my opinion.

I always liked a long ranged dog, and then finally realized I can catch more hogs and catch bigger hogs by having a dog that hunts from my feet out. A dog that blows out the country and winds up bayed 1 mile, usually has blown past a lot of hogs, and you can go behind these dogs and catch hogs.

In the perfect setting, I want a dog that hunts from my feet out until they find me a hog whether 100 yards or 2 miles. I've yet to produce these type of dogs consistently, but I'm getting closer and closer HOPEFULLY.

[hillbilly]

I got straight curs that range out to about half a mile just hunting and that is good enough for me. None of these dogs parents would hunt like this. I think the trick is making sure when they are young is make sure you turn them loose in hog sign so they will know that if we go we gonna find a hog. Be patient with the dogs they will want to stand around but if they got any want to they will evntually go hunt. JMO

[SnF bucking bulls]

Iv always started my dogs in a trailer or box and turn them to bays. That way they kniw when there feet hit the grou d there number 2ti. And gettin. And start them out with one of mymain dogs. Let them like eachother, share a box and stuff. My main dog will stay consistant about 1/2 a mile. I also feel the dogs miss a couple hogs
when hunted like this. Just fepends on the size of the place to me
 Id rather be chasing hogs then turning loose and chasing dogs- which seems i do alot. I either catch them when i catch a hog or have to go get them. It has its goods and not so goods

[BigCutters4]

I like a rangy dog BC a dog that hunts deep you can always put the brakes on as Cajun would say. u cant make a short range dog hunt deep .we also do a lot of cast hunting so I need dogs to go hunt

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[Reuben]

It's all in how and where you hunt in my opinion.

I always liked a long ranged dog, and then finally realized I can catch more hogs and catch bigger hogs by having a dog that hunts from my feet out. A dog that blows out the country and winds up bayed 1 mile, usually has blown past a lot of hogs, and you can go behind these dogs and catch hogs.

In the perfect setting, I want a dog that hunts from my feet out until they find me a hog whether 100 yards or 2 miles. I've yet to produce these type of dogs consistently, but I'm getting closer and closer HOPEFULLY.

lots of good points made by everyone so far...but I agree with BA-IV...I don't care for a dog that takes out at a dead run for .8-1 mile before it hunts...have seen a cur take a track 100 yards from the truck where the hound ran right past a minute before...

if a pup is born to hunt it will hunt...but a few things to help it get some range is to take him to a good spot with good and fresh hog sign and let the pup out...the pup is fresh and wants to do something and that is to our advantage...ignore pup and sit on wheeler or in truck and the pup will get bored and range out/explore...hopefully it will be bayed in a little while...once he makes a good loop you can move on slowly and when the pup puts his nose on the ground hold up and let him work it out...wait till he comes back or strikes before moving on...it is all about getting the pup started right with him picking up good habits...if we move to quickly the pup will worry more about keeping up than actually hunting...that's about how I see it...we need to do what we can to bring out the best in our pups...if we move to fast or too soon the pups will learn to take hotter tracks and it will shorten their hunting range...JMO

[halfbreed]

   lol   I know your right Rueben I was huntin with a tall lanky fella , [ I wont mention any names  ]  and I had to tell him to whoa the h  ll  up and let the dogs do the travelling and huntin .  some boys just hit the woods moving and never slow down .  rangy dogs  I got no use for them even if I had 100,000 acres to hunt and miss September driving me around on the property in a big fancy hummer . just my preference , I like a dog to make a fair sized loop and check up . if I cut them out in the entrance to a 100 acre wheat field they should take off on the right and work the brush and ditches at the edges and show back up on my left . no strike  we move on to the next field . and I said WE  . I just get more pleasure from dogs like that and I feel we don't miss any game . but I've seen them rangy dogs get cut loose and work the right side ditch line and keep on going right and miss a whole sounder layed up on the left , them's the dogs that I don't feed .

[Cajun]

There are advantages to both. I had two littermate cat females. Stinger was what I called long range, altho I did not have a garmin at the time. She would check in with u about every hour. Smutt was short range & I would see her every 10 or 15 minutes. Both dogs hunted circles around me because as I was walking, they would always come up from behind me, hitting my track & trailing me up. I could not say which dogs bayed more hogs. sometimes I would here Smutt bayed within 300 yards & sometimes I would have to get the telemetry out & go find Stinger bayed up. What ever dog bayed first, usually the other one would cover pretty quick. They also bayed a bunch together.
  I prefer a dog that is long range but will hunt with you & check back in.
  Everybody pretty well hit the nail on the head. If I only had small patches of land to hunt, I sure would not want a long range dog & the opposite is true if you have a lot of country to cover.
  As far as trashy dogs, get a tritronics & break them. Those dogs want to run something. It is your job to get them focused on hogs.

[TexasHogDogs]

   lol   I know your right Rueben I was huntin with a tall lanky fella , [ I wont mention any names  ]  and I had to tell him to whoa the h  ll  up and let the dogs do the travelling and huntin .  some boys just hit the woods moving and never slow down .  rangy dogs  I got no use for them even if I had 100,000 acres to hunt and miss September driving me around on the property in a big fancy hummer . just my preference , I like a dog to make a fair sized loop and check up . if I cut them out in the entrance to a 100 acre wheat field they should take off on the right and work the brush and ditches at the edges and show back up on my left . no strike  we move on to the next field . and I said WE  . I just get more pleasure from dogs like that and I feel we don't miss any game . but I've seen them rangy dogs get cut loose and work the right side ditch line and keep on going right and miss a whole sounder layed up on the left , them's the dogs that I don't feed .

Yup !

Short to medium , ck back in we move to the next block and keep on rolling.  When I leave a place with no hogs I like to feel good about there was no hogs there and my dogs didn't blow by them going a mile are two out and still going.  I don't like to have to drive around for four five hours chasing dogs when am ready to go having to call land owners to be able to go get your dog at every turn of the proptery line that will ruin you day and hunt right there plus there is no places I hunt big enuff for all of that.  Short/Med gets just as many hogs without all the head ackes .

[BIG CHRIS]

Its funny you said that about a cur and hound reubun... me and jprince and a cpl buddys I hunt with made a round on jprinces spot. I dropped my swag dog on the ground a cur, and a cpl catahoula dogs along with a lacy and a bluetick.... ole hound went to singing us a song about 75 yards away and took off. Pretty sure the other dogs were gonna check him and a few did. But ole swag and thunder never did. Looked at the garmin and swag was 864 rolling. We started to him and a hog went to squeeling swag and thunder are a little on the salty side.... I'm sure they went on a shoalt killing spree. But swag is mostly a good solid medium ranged dog that makes good loopes and hunts out and stays busy... will honor another dog and tattle tale on one. That hound is typicaly a long ranged dog that hunts straight and one track once he has struck it. Or will run straight till he does strike. Versus swag that makes a good loop checks in and will head back out ahead of you and go back to work. He suits my style of hunting to the T. I'M by no means a fan of catahoulas but that thunder dog hunts pretty dang near the same way. They are independent and hunt solo a lot but have no problem running togeather either and will fly to each other. So a longer shot to a happy medium with some grit is what I like to hunt and we catch plenty of pork....

[Blake F]

Depends on the land and access....I don't like to walk but I have both long and short range dogs....If I am going to a place 300 acres or less, or one bigger than that but I know I cant get into the neighbors, my long range dogs stay home.

You can hunt short range dogs anywhere. I can guarantee you that all dogs miss game. No matter how good they are. No doubt, they have a hog at the end, but they more than likely ran by some hotter tracks on the way there.

[alapaha blue blood]

A good short to med ranged dog is to me perfect 100- 300yd loops is good come check in and we r off I like to keep a good confident pace up and hate to hunt for a dog I'd rather him hunt for me then me for him long ranged dogs surely have there part just not in 80% of the spots we run

[T-Bob Parker]

I like a dog that hunts for me, BUT I ain't gonna trip over them for long, once they find good sign or a track, they better go wherever the hog is. Whether that's 100yards or 3 miles, get to him and get him bayed, I've got a truck, boat or 4 wheeler and ill get to ya eventually.

[bob]

X2 t bob

[parker]

what is long ranged or short ranged ? i have  owned dogs that hunt out about 300 yards or so but if they hit sign they can trail  they may go a  mile to find it .... i have  had d ogs that when you cut em loose they cast hard and fast til they jump a  hog or you run em dowm somewhere .... some of it is how they was trained and some just how the dog is ....  myself i like one ( a single dog) that will get out 500 yards or so in no sign and circle back ... but if he smells any sign he can trail go with it ...  most of all i like a track dog ... but sometimes i just like owning one and hunt one that hunts  closer  lol  i'm lazy ...

[halfbreed]

  well short and medium range dogs will check back in , when in no sign.  hunt a circle around you and check back often  . them long range dogs go till they hit sign and may never check  in  lol   or at least not as often .

[Reuben]

  well short and medium range dogs will check back in , when in no sign.  hunt a circle around you and check back often  . them long range dogs go till they hit sign and may never check  in  lol   or at least not as often .

x2...I like a dog that hunts out in loops 2 or 3 hundred yards in all directions as long as I am moving...If I stop they might keep on moving without me and that is ok because they will go find a pig...I like to know that if there is fresh hog sign that there will be no doubt about it...I guarantee a strike and more than often than not a bay...

[poorboyzhogdog]

I like my dogs to hit the ground and start working then range out as needed i found 50% hound and 50% clacy works for me

[chainrated]

Depends on what you're doing. If your business is selling dogs then one that kicks rocks in your face and you don't see again for 3 hours will impress a lot of folks.
If you want to catch hogs, one that puts his nose on the ground and bays the hog that's laid up within 500 yards of you is the one that will live at my house.