SwampHunter
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« on: August 10, 2013, 01:25:24 pm » |
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I have been noticing a few people selling RCDs but they say they will bay a hog if its big , or when by there self ........that's not a running catch dog to me , a catch dog to me has no bay in it only catch ..... An I missing something ?
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Texashog26
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 01:33:39 pm » |
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I agree totally, me and a buddy had this arguement once before, he was saying he knew a guy that had one, he says he would catch sometimes and bay by hisself. I say if a dog will bay and he catches that he is a rough dog, whether he hunts or not is what makes him a rough dog worth keeping. My opinion I'd rather not have a rcd, our dogs are rough and will catch as soon as anything else does and the chances of getting a good dog killed increase the longer they are caught.
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 01:34:44 pm » |
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Nope ur not missing nothing. They are calling rough catchy bay dogs RCD's. I have seen my RCD bay 2x. Once on a sounder and I think it confused him. Once they broke he caught. Second was on a 200+ hog in a briar pach with just it nose stuck out. Would bay then hit it on the nose trying to get it out the briars. Once it stuck out its head he caught.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 04:07:06 pm » |
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so an rcd is supposed to be suicidal ?
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hattak at ofi piso
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 04:54:14 pm » |
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I don't call it suicidal. But they shouldn't back up cause its not a shoat. Mine has enough sense to catch ear but he won't back up from a 300 pound hog either. If ur lead in catch dog wouldn't catch anything over 150 would u call him a catch dog. I don't use a bull dog at all. My bay dogs will stretch a 150 pounder without my RCD. Anything bigger they will wait for him. If he gets to a big hog first he will catch the rest pile on. He will find his own hog also. To me a RCD is no different than a Lead in other than he is on the ground the whole time hunting.
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justincorbell
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 05:11:00 pm » |
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Deffinitions according to this redneck:
CD- led in or dropped close to the bay to catch the hog, no matter the size
RCD- runs with bay dogs and catches as soon as the hog is stopped, no matter the size.....
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grittydog
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 05:30:07 pm » |
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Running CATCH DOG, It is a catch dog, if it bays it gets culled...A rough dog may backup and bay a hog, but a CATCH DOG of any kind, better catch.
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 05:39:56 pm » |
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Ultimately... the ultimate hog dog for me will be very catchy but smart about it...the few RCD's I have seen I didn't really like...they have been mt curxpit crosses...hunt, catch, no bark...no noise and no help...they are prone to heat exhaustion and other perils...
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LTcaughthog
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 05:51:34 pm » |
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R = running C = catch D = dog
Which means he runs around and catches the hog lol Perfect definition of a RUNNING CATCH DOG
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Mike
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 06:08:34 pm » |
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Catch dogs don't bay... period.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 06:15:34 pm » |
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Catch dogs don't bay... period.
The ones that do will end up leaving you in a bind or getting you hurt I oughta know, I don't mind using junky bulldogs and have used one or two that have got me in some binds.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 07:03:49 pm » |
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Catch dogs don't bay... period.
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Purebreedcolt
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 07:24:02 pm » |
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Full catch yes sucidial no. They had better catch but I like a smart cd so if they dont run in and catch blinde that is great with me I would like them to think how the best way to catch. Yes it is possiable in a cd rcd but they are few. Anything less than full catch is a rough dog. I have run a rough dog as a cd as a back up. I think a lot of guys rcds are rough if they were by them selves but in a pack with another dog they catch my and a couple of my dogs included but they catch hogs lol. My view is starting to change a little in that a rcd runs with a pack and catches but alone he is a rough dog. To me a holder finder one out dog is a pure catch dog that will do it all if need be or be a "rcd" hope I made since with this post it makes since to me right now anyways.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 08:06:32 pm » |
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well I see what ya'll are saying , so yes and rcd is supposed to be suicidal . my original pack I considered rcd's I never went to a bay I went to gruntin and squealing . except on a few hogs that wrecked the whole pack before I heard the first bark .. they caught anything first and could handle most but did get whooped off a few and back up and bay . but them was some kinda bad hogs that would put me out of hunting for a couple weeks . so I just had ruff dogs . that was the first seven years of hunting and then I got's me my first bulldog because the pack was getting some age on it and I thought it couldn't hurt them to have a little help .
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hattak at ofi piso
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TexasHogDogs
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2013, 08:23:39 pm » |
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RCD-No back up n the real ones.
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charles
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2013, 09:31:58 pm » |
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So what is the title of a catch dog that would find their own hog n catch, rcd or what? A pit i had would not run with the other dogs all the time, but if she got wind of a hog, she would catch, but again, didnt run all the time. I couldnt lead her, it would b draggin her, so i wouldnt put a lead on her n just let her run loose
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SwampHunter
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2013, 10:23:19 pm » |
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Catch dogs don't bay... period.
That's what I'm talkin about , I was just making sure I was understanding what others call a RCD An it was the same as I thought
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2013, 10:29:48 pm » |
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You can call a Toyota a truck. But when you put a load in the bed it can't go nowhere. I know some people will argue and that is my point. I don't call a Toyota a truck and I don't call a dog that will sit back and bay a RCD. You can call what you wnat whatever you want. But to me a RCD runs loose and will run right in and catch and I don't care what hog it finds. I have seen what I cal a running catch dog chase down and catch a hog without any help. There was not any barking or help and that is what I would call a RCD. But I would drive a Toyota and I ain't saying anybody else should not call them a truck. But there are better noses and better runners so if a catch dogs starts baying I would find another dog to hunt with.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2013, 10:49:26 pm » |
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so we talking bulldogs now or still talking cur dogs ? seems like we went from rcd's to catch dogs . so when a pack of rcd's meet that hog that puts a whooping on them , and i'm talking cut down and desperate they shouldn't have enough brains to [ not quit ] the hog but smart enough to back up a bit and continue baying and looking for the next opportunity to catch . you know regroup so to speak .
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hattak at ofi piso
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TexasHogDogs
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2013, 11:19:27 pm » |
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A running catch dog in my mind should not bark at a hog if he does then he is just a ruff bay dog waiting on a opening . Also in my experience if he is barking and waiting to catch he is gonna let go sooner are later when the chit gets real real deep, in other words the way I see it if he aint got the wavles to straight out catch and waits and barks then catches he aint got the wavles to really hang on when its gets really bad and might end up in a bind are get yourself hurt sooner are later. In other words that barking at first is telling me something its telling me he aint real sure and if that's the case am not real sure he is gonna be there when I need him the most .
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