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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2013, 01:19:44 am »

i didnt even know a catchdog could bark Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2013, 08:55:44 am »

  my catchdog doesn't , my cur dogs do  lol  and there was no bark till they had been cut down . then they had since enough to bay  the hog till the next opportunity to catch again . I wont own a stupid dog  lol  so i'll just stick with rough curs that have a little brain   lol . they didn't get as old as they were by being suicidal  . but these were purebred Catahoula's and not some crossed up bulldogs . I think if I had put some bulldog in this line I would be bringing home more empty collars when they met the uncatchables   lol
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2013, 10:49:04 am »

A "catchdog" should never bark period no matter what, I agree with that and one that does won't ever live at my house.
But what if you had what you considered a "running catch dog" that has helped you catch a Lot of bad hogs and had stopped a lot of races for you after you sent him in. And I don't mean a lead in catchdog- bulldog...What if he got way off from you and it took you awhile to get there and when you did he was cut down , overheated, bleeding out and was baying? What if instead of him being stupid and staying hooked up on the hog and dying for sure, he instead was smart enough to bay and live? What would you do? What would you do if there was nobody there but you and you didn't have to try to impress anybody and worry about being a big, bad, tough guy and saying you aint gonna have a dog that will bay if it gets bad?

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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2013, 10:55:45 am »

Like it chain...but you know better than that.

A lot of these boys are Rambo, Chuck Norris and Arrrnold all rolled into 1.
There ain't a hog bad enough out there that they wouldn't take on with their strike dog and 1 lead in, much less a bunch of RCD's.  Evil
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2013, 11:26:07 am »

Rough Cur Dog(This is my interpretation of this new RCD term) We sometimes substitute "Rank" for Rough back home. Three good stockbred, rough curs should be able to assist a man in "catching" whatever stock needs to be found and "caught". They also had better know when to bark , when to catch, and when to get out Wink
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2013, 12:46:39 pm »

Chainrated,  there is always good sound exceptions atleast to me there is.  I think were the problem lies is were are not the humans hunters have the experience, good common sense to see to know and make good sound judgements .   That's a great point you made.   I have seen many a times and not just in the cur dogs but in the bulldogs were the dogs made the owner, not the owner made the dog and were the dog was way smarter than the man that owned him. A man that cannot and is incapable of making sound judgement calls to no fault of his own just genetics is a man that is not going to get very far in his endeavors!  Some people just cannot and all the training in the world cannot help them and then some are blessed and just born with it and only a fortunate few learn it !
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2013, 12:57:21 pm »

 I have seen many a times and not just in the cur dogs but in the bulldogs were the dogs made the owner, not the owner made the dog and were the dog was way smarter than the man that owned him.

TexasHogDogs, I don't know you but from that one statement I know you have raised few dogs.  Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2013, 01:26:10 pm »

Running catch dogs won't live long...I would rather just use a walk in...but a very rough dog that will make one stop and then keeping the hog stopped is all I want...if the dog barks while cooling off is even better...I have already had a pack that caught and wore a hog down and would back off and bay when tired...and catch again if it tried to break...but I want a little more gritt and a running vest will be the norm...smart very catchy dogs that hunt and will take a track will be my next goal...might have to tweak some...hopefully the ones that can adapt will reproduce a few litters...
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2013, 09:35:16 pm »

most of the time i hunt hog spots that are full of hogs so are catch dogs getting let go at the woods!  my hunting budy pit's get's let go at the truck. but i still wouldn't call them a rcd! what are they to y'all?

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2013, 10:15:36 pm »

I've never hunted rcds and probably never will but I'm kinda curious about them. Do you just let em run loose from the start or wait till other dogs bay then cut em loose? What do you expect as far as bottom? Sometimes it takes me 30 minutes or longer to get to a bay.. if it took that long and a dog had to be caught the whole time I cant imagine him living long.
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2013, 10:33:42 pm »

you can turn them out with the strike dogs or turn them in when they strike or turn them in as a fresh dog after a good run...
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2013, 12:01:35 am »

Mine is on the ground hunting every minute any of my dogs are. He can and will cover ground if necessary. I run a rough pack with him so when he catches he has back up till I get there. I don't let my dogs get much further than 500 yards before I start closing gaps and looking for ways to the bay. It's not a wait for the bay game running a RCD. It's a stay close when they show bayed get to stepping.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2013, 01:21:56 am »

Sounds like just rough dogs to me! To me there are loose dogs, rough dogs, and a catchdog for those few times when the rough dogs can't catch a bad one!
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2013, 03:46:51 pm »

I don't call it suicidal. But they shouldn't back up cause its not a shoat. Mine has enough sense to catch ear but he won't back up from a 300 pound hog either. If ur lead in catch dog wouldn't catch anything over 150 would u call him a catch dog. I don't use a bull dog at all. My bay dogs will stretch a 150 pounder without my RCD. Anything bigger they will wait for him. If he gets to a big hog first he will catch the rest pile on. He will find his own hog also. To me a RCD is no different than a Lead in other than he is on the ground the whole time hunting.
I sure wish I had a running catch dog. Lol
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2013, 06:30:25 pm »

I wish u did to. Then u could give me that no good rough as a cob bay dog.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2013, 09:58:09 pm »

I wish u did to. Then u could give me that no good rough as a cob bay dog.
You wouldn't like that pot licker all he wants is to be scratched behind the ears. He's such a wuss he would never catch a hog. I should just give him to you!! If you come get him in the next 5 minutes you can have him. If you're not here in 5 the deal is off.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2013, 11:56:01 pm »

I see how ya are. Give a man an impossible task. U better be carefully with that tho cause as many that know me know there is no telling where and when I may pop up.
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2013, 09:09:49 am »

So does that mean strike dogs that'll strike their own hog & bay a big ole boar until help arrives and then catch but on a smaller size hog straight catch, is that considered a rough dog or a RCD? Seen lot more catahoulas be jam up rough as a cob strike dogs but will catch their own hog. What would you consider that?
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2013, 09:18:09 am »

Running catch dogs won't live long...I would rather just use a walk in...but a very rough dog that will make one stop and then keeping the hog stopped is all I want...if the dog barks while cooling off is even better...I have already had a pack that caught and wore a hog down and would back off and bay when tired...and catch again if it tried to break...but I want a little more gritt and a running vest will be the norm...smart very catchy dogs that hunt and will take a track will be my next goal...might have to tweak some...hopefully the ones that can adapt will reproduce a few litters...

I tend to disagree about RCD's not living long, I hunt from time to time behind a friends RCD that'll catch a 350 just as hard as he'd catch a 75 pound hog. He's 8 or 9 years old & has been the go to RCD since he was a year and a half
Or so. I understand what you're saying though.
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2013, 06:24:01 pm »

IF u have ruff bay dogs or gritty bay dogs that will help catch with your rcds then u have a controlled hog from cuting up dogs .. if your worried about your rcd an bay dogs getting cut use a vest an cut collars!
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