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« on: August 18, 2013, 11:48:09 pm » |
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How many of y'all got a new dog that hunts like crazy but when you get him home for yourself he just sits? I have a dog we. For that would hunt great and then here he is scared all the time.. He will act like he's wants petted and then jerks away.. Or in the woods if you walk towards him he cowers down. How long you think it will take to get him out of it?
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 08:06:40 am » |
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this one of the new dogs ? give it a hot dog every time you go near it for a while . sounds like it just scared of people [ humans ]
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Bowhunter1994
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 11:41:38 pm » |
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I have a mountain cur that is exactly like that ^
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2013, 09:31:44 am » |
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We have a somewhat timid dog. When we first got her she'd cower down when we walked straight toward her and usually hide under the porch. We gave her some space and didn't force anything. When we'd mess with our other dogs we'd call to her and invite her to come hang, sometimes she would and other time she didn't want anything to do with it. Positive reinforcement, patience and a whole lot of treats seemed to help her learn to trust us and built her confidence.
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TChunter
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 12:57:43 am » |
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In the yard he does fine... When I take him to the woods is when he cowers and stuff... He gets excited when loading but then totally changes. Don't know if he just needs a lot of time to get used to me or what.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 05:00:26 am » |
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A friend of mine called and offered to give us a pup that had some of my old line bred in...he had about 4 pups to choose from...we took one that looked more mt cur and he was sure enough timid...I told my grandsons to mess with him every chance they had. We took that pup on a week long vacation with us and he was in the river with the grandkids swimming and hanging out...that pup is totally trusting of us and has nerves of steel...
Some of the best dogs I have had were somewhat timid and didn't care for strangers...right now my 2 best dogs are somewhat timid...one I chose because he was the right size and build...the other was given to me from my old line of dogs...they are good with me but I have had lots of patience with them and with these dogs they need consistency so they can start trusting...little treats and lots of petting...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 06:59:10 am » |
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Some dogs are just that way. I got one named red. Red hunts pretty good but catching him can be a chore. At home u have 2 choices either walk up squat down and wait or grab his lead and walk it to him. In the woods the best way to catch him is drop the tailgate and load the other dogs up and he will jump right in. If he is off lead and u walk towards him he will stay 20 to 30 feet from u. Just squat down and it may take a min or two but he will slowly sneak up beside or behind u and sit down right against u. This is the improvement or the year I've had him.
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mdj Hoggers
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 12:07:01 pm » |
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I have a bitch dog the same way long range dog great in woods but u cant touch with out her cowering down and peeingon her self amd run off same way at home and it was kinda sad but i never hit her or anything and she still did it but i put her in my above ground kennel with my brindle gyp and two weeks she got a complete attitude change
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 12:58:54 pm » |
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I have a little brindle gyp about 3 months old that is the same way won't let anyone touch her but me and pisses every time I touch her her mom was same way and pup was born on my yard she barks at everything in sight and cowards down if anyone comes near and sometimes when I walk up to her but I put my hand down and pet her and sit with her and she try's to climb in my lap after a few minutes. Just takes time to get a timid dog adjusted to you.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 03:20:53 pm » |
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I have one that was timid when I got him. He was tough as nails in the woods and would get after any hog. He had a tendency to cower down when you came near him in the field at first.
What I did was make it a point to pet him every day at feeding time. He is alot better now and will just run up to me to get some petting.
Years ago we had a bird dog up at the summer training camp that was real shy. We staked her out at the door of the cabin and everybody had to pet her coming and going. If she got under the step we would well rope her out and pet her. She came around pretty quick.
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Corey
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 05:35:09 pm » |
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Some are just like that....don't need your attention. I have one coming around 3, don't know for sure she was given to me at about a year old. Couldn't catch her off leash.......still can't. But I bet if the tail gate is down when she get off the chain....where going huntin' . I have to handle her different than the others....not really handle her at all. I give her the option to come along or not. I've never left her by her choice. I guess you need to assess the hog catching value with yours, does it WANT to go hunting & catch game. That alone can persuade the dog to respect and get along with you...if it is driven. If your mess in with a timid dog with no game getting' / hunt to catch drive....your wasting your time. If the dog is driven but questionable about human interaction, leave it alone...provide the option to go hunting/get on game. If you read back there are a great many stock/ hunting dogs that are said to be "owned by nobody" most times those where the better working dogs and therefore bred off of.
If given the chance does the dog do a job? If you like it leave it be.
Just my nonsence take for what it worth
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 06:34:44 pm » |
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Very well put Corey! I have a dog like this and owned him since he was 6 months old and spend time with him every day, he's 2 years old and still wild like a coyote. The only way I can get him is using the beep on my tritronics, but the positive side no one can steal him.
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Hog Dog Mike
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 07:42:37 pm » |
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A buddy of mine had a jam up sure enough great dog. He could find them and hold them. JB was his name and he did not want you putting your hands on him. Just drop the tail gate or open the door to the dog box and he would load like a champ.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 09:16:28 pm » |
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If they or like you say, timid scared then the best thing is everytime you walk by it, give it a treat and a few pats on the head. If its hard headed and want come to you, put it on a long lead 20' or 30' call his name give him a tug and if he don't come shock him, keep working him with the long lead and shock collar and if he has much since it want take many times and when you call he'll come straight to you.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 10:11:38 pm » |
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I think everybody has pretty much covered it. Raising game bred bulldogs I have ran into this fairly often. Shyness is a very common trait in the gamebred lines of bulldogs, some lines more than others. I have found like everyone else has said you basically have two choices or atleast two healthy ones. You can either leave em be or you can slowly try to build its trust and confidence in you. The second takes a lot of patience and can take a long long time if the dog has a serious case of shyness cause you definitely do not want to try and force it. That was the hardest thing for me, to remember to always keep my patience because you lose your patience once with a really shy dog and it can undue everything you have done up until that point. Well thats my two cents.
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mdj Hoggers
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2013, 10:16:46 pm » |
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Some are just like that....don't need your attention. I have one coming around 3, don't know for sure she was given to me at about a year old. Couldn't catch her off leash.......still can't. But I bet if the tail gate is down when she get off the chain....where going huntin' . I have to handle her different than the others....not really handle her at all. I give her the option to come along or not. I've never left her by her choice. I guess you need to assess the hog catching value with yours, does it WANT to go hunting & catch game. That alone can persuade the dog to respect and get along with you...if it is driven. If your mess in with a timid dog with no game getting' / hunt to catch drive....your wasting your time. If the dog is driven but questionable about human interaction, leave it alone...provide the option to go hunting/get on game. If you read back there are a great many stock/ hunting dogs that are said to be "owned by nobody" most times those where the better working dogs and therefore bred off of.
If given the chance does the dog do a job? If you like it leave it be.
Just my nonsence take for what it worth
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