Hog_hunter
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« on: August 20, 2013, 04:03:40 pm » |
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I am trying to start hog dogging and was wondering how good rcd's are? Can you run only 2-3 rcd's at once and successfully catch hogs? What are good crosses that turn out good rcd's? I was thinking about breeding a greyhound x ambull to some sort of hound to add some nose, has anyone else done this? Also thought about crossing a dane but dont know if there are any danes that can hunt. Just need someone else's thoughts on rcd breedings cause basically I am just a new guy with a lot of thoughts on different crosses to use. Pics of dogs would be nice.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2013, 05:32:17 pm » |
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My suggestion to you is get any one of the cur dog cat fl cur yella cur so have ya is a good start. Get one that is good started or finished and one or two young dogs that you can mold the way you like to hunt and get a finished catch dog this is as important as a strike dog don't matter how many you can find if you can't catch them but any way find some one close to you and tag along a few times to see if this sport is for you. Becuz you are bout spend some $$$ but any way good luck to you
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Hog_hunter
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2013, 06:21:33 pm » |
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So it's better to go with bay and catch dogs? I like the Aussie style where they hunt one out, but would that not work here in tx?
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hillbilly
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2013, 06:50:59 pm » |
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If I was to go rcd's I would go with bird x bull cross. Ain't nothin gonna out hunt a birddog. JMO
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Judge peel
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2013, 08:29:30 pm » |
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I had a bird x pit long time ago he was on of the best dogs I have ever owned rip boomer
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2013, 09:53:28 pm » |
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I run rcd one out finder holder catching strike dogs what ever you want to call them. 1 to 4 on the ground or hood/rigging. Havea cat a bmc 2 ridgebacks and 3 ridgeback/pits . All catch and hold on their own but my female ridgeback and she is rough by her self but will catch with another dog. Run vests and expect cutts but you can catch hogs and a mess of them like this. Mine are short range and will not stick to a pig indefently this is what I like if they get burned ok they aint made no noise we move to the next hog. Is this type of dog for everyone no but I love them. Have 4 pups that might be added and my bmc gyp being bred as we speak to another full catch bmc. I hunt mostly semi open cedar breaks misquite flats with some fields and good roads so I can get to the dpgs fast most of the time. I like a good winding nose on them but my cat and female ridge/pit like to trail my cat is plain bad he wont wind it is weird. Most on here bay and catch so I am a minority for sure lol I just catch lol. There is one dog I would like to add for the fun of it and that is a fl cur. Want to know more call or text me 2549772621 but not tonight my bed time lol
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2013, 10:00:53 pm » |
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I like the idea of plenty of nose and hunt from a rough Plott or Mt cur x Pitbull as RCD's...I have a gritty mt cur gyp bred to a pitbull right now...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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SwampHunter
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2013, 11:37:21 pm » |
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Have you caught some hogs with RCD ?? Only bad thing about RCD , they can get hot in summer fast , they can also get killed fast if you can't get get to them quick , an you will never bay up a sounder you will most likely always catch single hogs or have maybe to caught at a time this is where the problem comes in dog gettin beat up an cut
I had rough dogs an went to loose bay dogs an lead in catch dogs ,
My bulldog will strike an catch a hog if I let him ,
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2013, 11:48:30 pm » |
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Have you caught some hogs with RCD ?? Only bad thing about RCD , they can get hot in summer fast , they can also get killed fast if you can't get get to them quick , an you will never bay up a sounder you will most likely always catch single hogs or have maybe to caught at a time this is where the problem comes in dog gettin beat up an cut
I had rough dogs an went to loose bay dogs an lead in catch dogs ,
My bulldog will strike an catch a hog if I let him ,
Do you ever let him (bulldog) why or why not? Just curious of what you have seen doing it.
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Reuben
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 05:09:06 am » |
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Have you caught some hogs with RCD ?? Only bad thing about RCD , they can get hot in summer fast , they can also get killed fast if you can't get get to them quick , an you will never bay up a sounder you will most likely always catch single hogs or have maybe to caught at a time this is where the problem comes in dog gettin beat up an cut
x2...and you know your dogs are gritty when they only bay one hog, always...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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SwampHunter
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2013, 10:15:46 am » |
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Have you caught some hogs with RCD ?? Only bad thing about RCD , they can get hot in summer fast , they can also get killed fast if you can't get get to them quick , an you will never bay up a sounder you will most likely always catch single hogs or have maybe to caught at a time this is where the problem comes in dog gettin beat up an cut
I had rough dogs an went to loose bay dogs an lead in catch dogs ,
My bulldog will strike an catch a hog if I let him ,
Do you ever let him (bulldog) why or why not? Just curious of what you have seen doing it. I have , he will go out an hunt , an catch his own hog , can wind them from the wheeler or box , but his down fall in the summer is he can't run a track a long ways an then catch with out gettin hot , he does not have good heat tolerance I don't like that but everything eles about him is good , In the winter I will some times let him go , also he is not completely trash broke off of varmints , he won't mess with cows horses or anything but raccoons is another story lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2013, 11:23:44 am » |
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I doubt all aussies run that style of dog and the ones who do are probably hunting open ground and can see the hogs and dogs. I see alot of those guys talking about catching 25 hogs a day. I think that would be a heck of day in the thorn twisted jungles a lot of us hunt in. Austrailia is a big place, lots of different terrain and styles of hunting just like here.
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Reuben
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2013, 11:31:03 am » |
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I doubt all aussies run that style of dog and the ones who do are probably hunting open ground and can see the hogs and dogs. I see alot of those guys talking about catching 25 hogs a day. I think that would be a heck of day in the thorn twisted jungles a lot of us hunt in. Austrailia is a big place, lots of different terrain and styles of hunting just like here.
The population is small and the country large...almost sounds like heaven to me...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2013, 02:46:31 am » |
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Have you caught some hogs with RCD ?? Only bad thing about RCD , they can get hot in summer fast , they can also get killed fast if you can't get get to them quick , an you will never bay up a sounder you will most likely always catch single hogs or have maybe to caught at a time this is where the problem comes in dog gettin beat up an cut
I had rough dogs an went to loose bay dogs an lead in catch dogs ,x2
My bulldog will strike an catch a hog if I let him ,
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dodgegirl
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2013, 09:16:21 am » |
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Rebone x pit mix. Best dog we ever owned. Little 35 pound dog who never thought twice about catching any hog & had a damn good nose. I would give up any dog in my yard if it would bring her back.
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Hog Dog Mike
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 10:29:20 am » |
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If I was to go rcd's I would go with bird x bull cross. Ain't nothin gonna out hunt a birddog. JMO
You are absolutely right! I used to judge bird dog field trials. Unless you have ever seen one you have no idea how much ground an all age bird dog can cover. They can haul a$$ for hours without letup. The National Championship runs for 3 hours and a dog must finish as strong as he starts or he cannot win. The Free For All Championship has an hour qualifying stake and then runs for four hours.
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Hog Dog Mike
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2013, 10:31:03 am » |
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Correction because I do not know how to edit. The free for all has an hour qualifying stake and 3 hours running for a total of 4 hours.
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Reuben
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 11:02:40 am » |
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I think that some of those English pointers are too much dog for the average person...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2013, 01:33:31 pm » |
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I know this is a little off the subject but I went hunting last night an striked at 8:35pm an bayed until 12:30am we bayed on one big tuff hog 400+... biggest hog I have see in the wild!! We had kirby rough bay dog, bella rough bay dog, beautiful my rcd , my new female pup that"s baying semi rough, an 2 pit catch dogs.. I can say 6 dogs was not enough dogs for this hog we even got really close 2 times on a bay 40 yard away an let are lead catch dog an a good started catch dog go an lets just say they became bay dogs after 30 seconds of trying !! This is one of them times where it didn't matter what rcds or catch dogs u got if the hogs going to knock off your dogs with trees an cut them up then its just not meant to be after a empty staple gun!!! This hog bayed up pretty good all night with Kirby he has bottom for 4 to 8 hours an with dist. traveled 15.56 miles an with the temp up a little i know he was getting hot so we called him off an made that a hunt... oh lets don't forget the 4''copper head that all most got me! He struck about a 1' in front of me, That has too close for comfort for me sure got me dancing on every other stick i thought was a snake! lol So people that say a rcds will catch any size hog then keep hunting if it's not smart about it they will get killed an i know are dogs work really well so dead dogs are no good if u have to replace them every 2 to 3 months when u get on a bbhog! Ugly dog ranch hunted this hog for a hog hunting tournament a while back an they couldn't catch it either after a dead dog at the lease off 1462! So i'm just glad to say all catch dogs will recover!
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Mike
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2013, 01:37:53 pm » |
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Your two lead in catch dogs went to baying???
Ugly Dog Ranch doesn't hunt that country either...
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