hounds

[shuttin em down]

About to get a full blood hound red tick/walker 2 year old what are the pros and cons with this breed

[KevinN]

Not a hound man but the pros are nose and bottom usually..... Then again..... Depending on your hunting style and area you hunt.... Those things can be cons too, lol

Only thing I don't really like about the hounds or crosses I've hunted with....they can be single minded. It's that nose/ bottom thing. The ones I've hunted with will sometimes hit a track and take it....passing hogs along the way.

[heavyhitter89]

I agree with kevin on that one, my dad and his side of the family all run hounds, they are good but most of them ive came across are semi open to wide open, nose wise they are great but when they pick up one track that's what there stuck on imo

[hoghunter71409]

Has this dog been hunted on anything?  Ive seen some hounds with no nose, no hunt, and no want to.  Ive seen hounds so good on one game that they don't know what to with off game.  Generally speaking, hounds seem to be game chasers, you really got to find some good ones to catch game.  When I say good ones, they have to be rough enough to want to catch one.

[Mike]

What's wrong with that?

When I put one on big track, whether it be hound, cur or cross... it better stick with it.
Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way, but why would you want them coming off on other hogs when they're running a stud?

[Reuben]

What's wrong with that?

When I put one on big track, whether it be hound, cur or cross... it better stick with it.
Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way, but why would you want them coming off on other hogs when they're running a stud?

I agree with sticking with one...the dogs run one until the hog is about to give it up and the dogs switch to a fresh hog??? I like dogging one until it is caught or the dogs get out ran due to the heat...

[KevinN]

Mike/Reuben.....nothing WRONG with a dog doing that I guess..... If it fits your hunting style.

All though I LOVE this sport I haven't progressed to track hunting just yet, lol.

The people I have hunted with that run hounds or hound crosses don't track hunt either.

The one place I can call "my spot"....at this point, I'm more concerned with putting numbers down to make the land owner happy and really secure the spot.

If I can make him happy and maybe pick up another spot or two in the next year or so I'll probably start doing a little more target specific dropping of the dogs.

[Bo Pugh]

I wouldn't want a dog that will jump from track to track because at the end of the day you won't end up with nothing but a wore out dog. But with a dog that will run the same track most of the time and stay on it to will usually get the hog at the end. The cons of a redtick walker x would probably be it barks on track that's just about a given but just because it's a hound does not mean its gonna have a cold nose and have a lot of bottom that comes within the dog itself not the breed you will just have to try the dog and see if you like it

[shuttin em down]

He's been on about 35 hogs and found about 20 of them I trust the guy enough to take his word I just wanted to know like if they usually stick with one for miles or quit them quick or they rough or loose they long range ect I hunted with this dog as a pup and that was it I don't remmember much its been awhile since I hunted with him and the guy that has him just says he's a good dog try him

[KevinN]

Bo...I don't think we're quite on the same page. I know what Mikes Talking about...he's a big track hunter and he drops on tracks and wants his dogs to find that specific hog... When he says sometimes it doesn't work out... I'm pretty sure he's referring to the boar running the dogs through a sounder more often than not.

I'm not talking about track hunting at all. I'm talking about a colder nosed dog hitting a track and taking it.... When there are hogs bedded down within a few hundred yards in the same block of woods. The dog usually puts a pig at the end of the track but the point is... There are hogs a lot closer that get struck by another dog.

[hoghunter71409]

Good to know he has been on hogs.  Did the guy tell you if he was open on track?  Kind of hard to say what type of dog that a red tick walker cross would make...hard to tell what any cross will make.  Id be prepared for a dog that open on track, probably runs a lot and has a lot of hunt, be prepared for trash breaking.  The hunting style of hounds is a little different, in my opinion.  Most hounds that I know don't do well with casting.  It is really hard to say what a pro and a con would be.  Your idea of a pro may be a con to me. 

Your question is a hard one to answer, but I could see why you would ask in order to get prepared for what you may get.

[Reuben]

If he is a hound that is looking for a decent track and can locate a hog pretty quick then he is a keeper for the type of dog I like...but one that opens on a cold track and works it for several hours just to warm it up is a cull for me...where I hunt we will find hogs pretty quick so I wouldn't ever need a dog like that cold nosed hound...there are large places that don't hold many pigs where a dog like that would probably be an asset to have in the pack...

Chances are he will be a dog worth trying...

[shuttin em down]

The guy said he barks on track once ever 100 to 130 yards but its not a bawl bark its just a chop mouth and the only thing he trashes on is armadillos which I don't mind as long as they don't bark at it he said if he does grab one she shakes his head and drops it and walks away moving or not if it runs in a hole hell walk away

[Cajun]

Just because he is cold nose does not mean he will not find the easy hogs first. Most cold nose dogs are going with the hottest track they can smell because they know it is fresher. The difference is if you only have one track & it is older, your colder nose dogs will trail it up while your hotter nose curs will be standing by your feet. Having said that, there are cold nose curs out there but this is not what your topic is about.
  Sounds like this young dog is well on his way to becoming a nice dog.

[bigo]

A dog that takes a long time to line a track out and walks a mudhole dry trying to move a track may be cold nosed but is a sorry excuse for a track dog. A great cold nose track dog will run a cold track like most dogs run a good track and leave on a good track like it was red hot. Some dogs, especialy some hounds  had rather run something than catch it. The old quick to jump, run to catch comes into play.
    I have allways had curs but use to be all off into coon hunting. I would read about some of these 1 to 2 hour coon races and had a few long ones myself untill I raised and trained a good one. The light came on about treeing the first coon up. I have seen that hound fall out of a red hot race with other hounds and come treed and have the meat on many occasions. After that hound came along, a 15 to 20 minute race was a long one. Those other hounds were treeing the last coon up and not running to catch.

[Bonnie_Clyde]

Mike,I like your style, haven't hunted many hounds but picked up a silent walker from Ray Cooper and looking at hounds in a totally different way!!

[jpuckett]

Mike,I like your style, haven't hunted many hounds but picked up a silent walker from Ray Cooper and looking at hounds in a totally different way!!

I have a couple Ray Cooper bmc's myself. He's as good a guy as there is out there. Has some dang fine dogs too.

[Reuben]

Just because he is cold nose does not mean he will not find the easy hogs first. Most cold nose dogs are going with the hottest track they can smell because they know it is fresher. The difference is if you only have one track & it is older, your colder nose dogs will trail it up while your hotter nose curs will be standing by your feet. Having said that, there are cold nose curs out there but this is not what your topic is about.
  Sounds like this young dog is well on his way to becoming a nice dog.

x2...I've seen it many times when the curs run over some decent tracks and a hound or mt cur run it like a smoking hot track and it probably was somewhat fresh...sometimes I don't think it is the nose but what triggers the response to run the track...

[7Mhunter]

I've got a gyp out in the kennel that ran a big one for 6 1/2 hours. She will stick with a track and bay the hog somewhere or die trying! Everyone bashes hounds because there "open" thats like saying every hound is open every cur is silent and every dog is a hog dog. Look past everyone else's opinions and see if you like a hound. I had a few of my dads friends bash my gyp saying we weren't going coon hunting because she is a treeing walker. My gyp smoked there dogs that night and the dog they were trying to put against her was scared of th dark! Everyone has there own opinions but it's not theres that matter its you'res!

[slckhunter1978]

To each his own i like silent dogs. Had a plott that would take a 2 day old track barking all the way and would usually end up with a hog bayed at the end but would most the time take hours. If i ever had a chance to git my hands on a good cold nosed plott that was silent i would jump on it. The silent hounds i have hunted behind were more hot nosed like most curs. I have a gyp now that can take a 4-5 hr track but most the time that hog isnt too far off and it dont take her long to line the track out and have one bayed and i like that style. But just sayn i would love to have one that could take an 8-12 hr old track and silently find that hog