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« on: August 10, 2009, 01:33:44 pm » |
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There has been a few things that i just don't understand. I have a few friends that have got dogs off of here that were supposed to be finished dogs, got a trial and all that, but when the dog didn't work out u can't get a hold of the guy, but when u try to say something on here to make others aware of what happened, it gets deleted. Same as the man that had found his collars in the ditch and dogs were gone. IF u hunted around there would u want to know who the guy is that is taking the dogs, i damn sure know that i would want to know. I bet if it was yall dogs that got taken you would want to know about everybody that has a reputation of taking dogs and such. Im not understanding why posts like that get deleted. im sure this one will be deleted, and i will probabyl get kicked off, over just stating my opinion. everyone else that has a little authority on here can say what they fill so why can't I or nybody else for that matter?  |
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 01:38:14 pm » |
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Think people who moderate and the members probably agree...but they cant allow slander and negative discussions. It has to be regulated so the board does not get out of hand.
Especially if it is not fact...just a personal opinion or hearsay...
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 01:40:14 pm » |
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Facts are hard to come by on the WWW.
I had to deal with it awhile back. When people make up crap with no facts b/c of reasons unknown it results in damage to people's names which shouldnt be taken lightly.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 01:43:24 pm » |
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Unfortunatly this topic has been discussed multiple times. And while the mod cant allow neg. comments I do think it would be a good idea to have like other sites a 30 day and 30 post min. before posting in the dog trade or classified and that may keep puppy peddlers off or a good guy section for people that have GOOD dealing with someone so that others know that haave a good reputation with buying and selling things... But the best info on a dog deal is if it is a TRULY finished dog then that person wont have a problem taking u hunting with the dog or you taking them and the dog on a hunt to see how it hunts in its enviorment because some dogs hunt diffrent then u may want. Sorry it happened but it does more times than not  |
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 01:43:37 pm » |
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im not talking about posting hear say stuff. when they find the guy or guys that are resposible for taking the dogs.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 01:44:09 pm » |
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Jeff I am a betting man,, and with that!!! I am betting its a Case of CYA on the board owners side and theres two side to every dog trade story ,,, i am all for a hit list so to speak of all those selling dogs that need to be culled, and damn sure if they have a record of doing it,,, just hang around for awhile and you will see everything balance out in the long run,,i lingered in the shadows for a long time before i signed in  that is JMO and it is not to reflect the opions of ETHD Dexter  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 01:44:18 pm » |
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Jeff, im sure this one will be deleted, and i will probabyl get kicked off, over just stating my opinion. everyone else that has a little authority on here can say what they fill so why can't I or nybody else for that matter? It's really pretty simple to get along on this website, and out of 1200 members there are less than 10 that have ever been banned...So odds are you have to really screw up to get kicked off I have a few friends that have got dogs off of here that were supposed to be finished dogs, got a trial and all that, but when the dog didn't work out u can't get a hold of the guy, but when u try to say something on here to make others aware of what happened, it gets deleted. Follow these simple rules on ETHD dog trade, and you will not get taken on a dog trade. 1. Ads on this board are strictly between buyer and seller, ETHD assumes no responsiblity.
2. If you have a legitimate question on the dog, then ask it, any other comments need to be taken up in private. Negative comments and/or bashing the individual or the dog will not be tolerated and will result in being banned from this forum. Any disputes between buyer's and seller's will be held off the boards and in private.
3. BUYER BEWARE... research the seller as much as possible. If the majority of their posts are in The Dog Trade, that should tell you something.
4. Sound advise: If you are going to spend a bunch of money on a dog ... GO SEE THE DOG HUNT/CATCH BEFORE YOU BUY. Any respectable person selling a proven dog will not have a problem with this, if they do turn and run the other way. Also get a trial period on the dog, but remember this... it takes a lot of dogs time to get used to their new owner and new packs. A short trial period is not always sufficient.
Same as the man that had found his collars in the ditch and dogs were gone. IF u hunted around there would u want to know who the guy is that is taking the dogs, i damn sure know that i would want to know. I bet if it was yall dogs that got taken you would want to know about everybody that has a reputation of taking dogs and such. At this point I don't think anyone knows who took the dogs. Now with that said should people start naming all the bad guys in hog dogging? I know some sure enough bad people, one of them posts on here occasionally to sell a dog, it is my OPINION that he is a bad person...but would it be fair to him to call him out for it publicly? |
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 01:45:55 pm » |
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wow was everyone posting the same time.......... lmaooooooooooooooooooooo
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 01:55:29 pm » |
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I agree, I got out of hand once and I wish I would have just kept my mouth shut, not worth rattling the cage. Plus having a opinion is what makes this page go round so lets all just keep having fun and lets keep moveing this sport forward, Good hunting boys!
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 01:57:30 pm » |
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no idon't think u should just go shooting names in the air of people that have a reputation of dog napping. well if nybody sees me post or inquire about a dog, and the man has a reputation of screwing people, pm me and tell me that i won't even consider the dog nymore, i don't care how good he is or not. i don't see how people can sleep at night doing some stuff like stealing dogs, and screwing people over. i traded a man a dog a few weeks ago, and he hasn't got to hunt the dog, due to being out of town working, when he gets home he is going to hunt her and if he doesn't like her for any reason im going to make things right. seems from stories i have heard from oldier gentlemen back in the old days people didn't do all this lying about dogs as such or should i say it didn't happen near as often as it does now. just my opionon
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 02:02:25 pm » |
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I am not sure what this boards policy is but after dealings on other boards you are better off allowing ZERO slander, even if the people are bad and every one knows it. One time it may truely be a bad person, the next it may be just a misunderstanding, no way to regulate it with out a judge and jury.  I have seen some stuff come up for sale from people that do bad business and I privatly let those interested know my experience with that person. That is about all we can do. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2009, 02:04:51 pm » |
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Them all timers didn't mind doing away with a cull That for sure now people want to pwan them off on someone... Try to make a dollar!!!! But I do not want to slander someone and it has to be a fact before I would even consider saying this thiefs name in public!! I think the dogs will come up dead before they get them back there is to much heat on this guy.... He has been seen with the dogs but they are not at his house....
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 02:09:34 pm » |
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Jeffeasttx, I can tell you that I have sent out a friendly PM to a few people inquiring about a dog from one specific person. That person very rarely posts and has only listed a few dogs for sale, but he has really screwed some of my friends, and I don't want to see it happen to someone else. So in keeping within the rules of the board, I PM the potential buyer, and I offer them a list of references on the person. Maybe they call them, maybe they don't...It's up to them at that point, and I am not publicly calling the person out, but at least they have the opportunity to be informed. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2009, 05:21:36 pm » |
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Jeff, I'm under good "advise" that when you publicly slander someone it opens doors to legal issues in which ETHD will have no part in. It's never been allowed and it never will be.
If people disagree with this policy, then so be it... it will never change.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2009, 05:24:19 pm » |
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everyone else that has a little authority on here can say what they fill so why can't I or nybody else for that matter? Also, if you feel that myself or one of my moderators have posted something out of line, then PM me an example and we'll take care of it? |
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 05:37:59 pm » |
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I know some sure enough bad people, one of them posts on here occasionally to sell a dog, it is my OPINION that he is a bad person...but would it be fair to him to call him out for it publicly?
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 05:54:31 pm » |
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To the moderators:You guys have done an excellent job so far in my eyes with every case of this sort I have ever read.Thanks,good business and,I'm proud to be a member.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2009, 05:57:59 pm » |
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I know some sure enough bad people, one of them posts on here occasionally to sell a dog, it is my OPINION that he is a bad person...but would it be fair to him to call him out for it publicly?
yes actually i take that back. people just need to pm people that inquire about dogs that are from bad people |
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2009, 06:02:22 pm » |
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actually i take that back. people just need to pm people that inquire about dogs that are from bad people
i completly agree with this statement.im not wanting do just go bad mouth people, but i don't want to see anyone get screwed over either.
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2009, 09:04:27 pm » |
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Looks like we need some more post on the "I want to thank some good honest people" thread. I havn't been a hog dogger for a long time and it would be nice to know who some good, honest breeders are.
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