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« on: October 22, 2013, 01:08:22 am »

What do y'all think about starting a young dog? Do y'all think they need to be worked in a pen a little while or straight to the woods with the good dogs? Pros and cons of both!! All opinions needed!!
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 03:17:43 am »

Il start pups around 4-5 mo old in a pen. I dont let them stay in long so they dont lose interest. After a few times in the pen i put them outside the pen. Around 6 mo old il take a smaller hog and tie a set of feet and turn him loose then il start the dogs about 100 yards from where i let the pig go until they eventually figure it out. Around 8 mo i take them to the woods but keep them in the trailer til we got one bayed then il turn them loose to the bay. After the hog is tied i catch the pups and put them back in the trailer. Then il take a pup and pen him with a finished dog. Then il turn them loose together
Thats the way iv always raised pups and its worked for really well with most of them. Some it didnt
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 03:18:08 am »

And gotta be patient
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 04:43:05 am »

Il start pups around 4-5 mo old in a pen. I dont let them stay in long so they dont lose interest. After a few times in the pen i put them outside the pen. Around 6 mo old il take a smaller hog and tie a set of feet and turn him loose then il start the dogs about 100 yards from where i let the pig go until they eventually figure it out. Around 8 mo i take them to the woods but keep them in the trailer til we got one bayed then il turn them loose to the bay. After the hog is tied i catch the pups and put them back in the trailer. Then il take a pup and pen him with a finished dog. Then il turn them loose together
Thats the way iv always raised pups and its worked for really well with most of them. Some it didnt

SnF...excellent post...you didn't go into detail on why but there are many good reasons why it should be done this way if you have the time and want to...

this isn't the only way but is my preferred way as well about word for word...
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 08:17:49 am »

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 08:36:40 am »

that's for sure a good method to use. I think everybody has different methods but that one is one of the easiest and it seems to work for a lot of dogs
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 10:00:55 am »

You made two post of the same thing?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 02:30:09 am »

Il start pups around 4-5 mo old in a pen. I dont let them stay in long so they dont lose interest. After a few times in the pen i put them outside the pen. Around 6 mo old il take a smaller hog and tie a set of feet and turn him loose then il start the dogs about 100 yards from where i let the pig go until they eventually figure it out. Around 8 mo i take them to the woods but keep them in the trailer til we got one bayed then il turn them loose to the bay. After the hog is tied i catch the pups and put them back in the trailer. Then il take a pup and pen him with a finished dog. Then il turn them loose together
Thats the way iv always raised pups and its worked for really well with most of them. Some it didnt

SnF...excellent post...you didn't go into detail on why but there are many good reasons why it should be done this way if you have the time and want to...

this isn't the only way but is my preferred way as well about word for word...
alittle detail on my post. okay think if you wer a dog and the first few times you saw a hog you wer face to face with it. your just starting to get fired up at the whole idea. and the next time your shown the hog your owner wont let you in. think about when a dog bays outside a pen its usually obvious the dog wants in that pen and at that hog.
when I tie a hog and turn him loose the whole reason I start the dogs 100 yrds or so behind the trail is because I want them to learn to GO FIND that trail instead of being dropped right on top of it.
when I start taking them on real hunts the reason I turn them to bays is I believe it makes the dogs act " when my feet hit the ground I go to a hog" I turn them loose to bays until I feel like you and the dog has learned how hes gonna work hog.
the reason why I pen a young dog with an older one is to make the older dog seem like the pups buddy. so when I turn them loose together that pup sticks with the finished one.
don't always work. sometimes does.
and I also forgot to mention In my opinion I ATLEAST like to start with a pair of pups
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 09:07:00 pm »

I will add a few more to what already has been said...

socialize the pups and take them for a ride now and then so they get familiar with strange and new things, gunfire etc...etc......teach them to wind and find at 8-10 weeks of age around the yard...make note of who does best..

take them to the woods at 3-4 months of age and see if they roll out...make note of the ones with natural ability...

when setting drags also teach the pup to wind out of the wheeler or truck with a staged pig...put the pig about 25-50 yards upwind and mark the spot where the hog scent is crossing the road...go get the dogs and drive slowly down the road and when you get to the maker encourage the pups to bark and turn them loose and if needed guide them to the pig...more than likely they will go on their own...after about three times they will get the idea...

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 05:32:56 am »

ive heard if you put a dog in a pen it'll ruin a dog but idk. if it were my pups i would take them straight to the woods and let them hunt by theirself. put em in fresh sign, eventually they will start hunting out without being in sign. thats how my pups started and now im catching number 2 load of hogs
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 07:06:41 am »

ive heard if you put a dog in a pen it'll ruin a dog but idk. if it were my pups i would take them straight to the woods and let them hunt by theirself. put em in fresh sign, eventually they will start hunting out without being in sign. thats how my pups started and now im catching number 2 load of hogs

A few times for training....NO won't ruin a dog. SNF has a good handle on it. Your way works too. Lots of different ways to start pups.
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