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« on: October 23, 2013, 10:07:57 pm »

My main hog dog is used to find deer often she has found 2 alredy this year she was used last couple of years too and found deer that other wise would have been lost she has bumped deer in the past but is a decent hog dog I havent had her run deer any this summer and hope this blood trailing dont affect her after hunting season. She keeps me in good with the land owner of my main place I hunt because they use her 2-3 times every deer season yall think I will screw her up doing this? We got way more deer than hogs where I hunt. Anyone else do this ?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 10:56:41 pm »

Hard to say. I have seen dogs do 2 jobs without 1 affecting the other but it was coon or deer. I know that a dog can learn a job and associate it with gear. My lab I believe knows what he is doing by what I put on him. If he sees me with his. Neoprene vest he acts different than when I get his t shirt. If I wear orange he knows its time to look for deer. I may be crazy but I really believe they can associate gear with jobs. So if u can figure out or use different set ups for different jobs I think it could help the dog know its job at the time.

Then again I could be nuts .


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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 07:42:55 am »

Hard to say. I have seen dogs do 2 jobs without 1 affecting the other but it was coon or deer. I know that a dog can learn a job and associate it with gear. My lab I believe knows what he is doing by what I put on him. If he sees me with his. Neoprene vest he acts different than when I get his t shirt. If I wear orange he knows its time to look for deer. I may be crazy but I really believe they can associate gear with jobs. So if u can figure out or use different set ups for different jobs I think it could help the dog know its job at the time.

Then again I could be nuts .


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Well shotgun, if you are nuts then we both are because I believe it as well. A buddy of mine uses his dogs for both cattle and hogs and I have watched with my own eyes him put cut collars on em and run em straight through a wad of cattle while hog hunting and they never messed with the cows, take those cut collars off and them cattle would be wearing curr dogs like jewelry lol.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 11:53:38 am »

  that's the way my old Catahoula was Justin , cut collar = hogs  no cut collar = cattle and the occasional hog  lol  that ol boy would never turn down the opportunity to catch a pig .
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 06:51:56 am »

Hard to say. I have seen dogs do 2 jobs without 1 affecting the other but it was coon or deer. I know that a dog can learn a job and associate it with gear. My lab I believe knows what he is doing by what I put on him. If he sees me with his. Neoprene vest he acts different than when I get his t shirt. If I wear orange he knows its time to look for deer. I may be crazy but I really believe they can associate gear with jobs. So if u can figure out or use different set ups for different jobs I think it could help the dog know its job at the time.

Then again I could be nuts .


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Well shotgun, if you are nuts then we both are because I believe it as well. A buddy of mine uses his dogs for both cattle and hogs and I have watched with my own eyes him put cut collars on em and run em straight through a wad of cattle while hog hunting and they never messed with the cows, take those cut collars off and them cattle would be wearing curr dogs like jewelry lol.

I agree. Seen it with Chances dogs a lot

I used my black bitch Lexi on a doe earlier. First track ever, 80 yards straight to her on a dime! We will see. We have some offspring from our bloodline that are deer trailing dogs & are lighting it up

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 09:18:57 am »

Their are lots of people who will disagree with this post, but I am not one of them. When your dog has all the trust in you and you have that certain bond with your dog the capacity of that dog is endless!!! They will do anything for you!!! In the coaching world you have too many parents and kids that believe they have to specialize in one sport to be great at it, well some may because they just aren't good enough to do all that's expected of them. When you have a great athlete that has the athletic ability to do all them teach him to excel at all. Animals are no different it just takes more time out of the day to refine all of those skills.  So the question now is do you have the time to practice all those skills?
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 11:27:22 am »

 My opinion is no. But , I base it on seeing some really good blood dogs on track  .  Cattle vs hogs isn't a very good comparison.  Most of the dogs even by kennels will track a blood trail. Hell my lab and Boston terrier will too    . What happens when that blood runs out is the question. A solid tracking dog will now just follow the deers scent  . So now that deer crossed over into a bedding area where numerous deer have been. That dog has to keep on the one deer scent. I really find it hard to see a dog being good at both. Again , my opinion on good may be different from others 
 Jerry g on here would be a good person to answer this question  . He tracks a lot of big deer and hog hunts a lot.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 09:30:02 pm »

I just dont want her to start running deer again she has in the past but didnt this summer got her on a decent amount of hogs this year and she is doing good but since deer season started I have let 2 people use her to blood trail deer they couldnt find I hope she can tell the difference one shes on a leash when blood trailing and I dont handle her so she wont think thats what I want she has found several deer for the land owner of my main place so her finding these deer keeps me in good with them I just dont want to confuse her but I think she understands whats going on I will know after deer season I guess .
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 06:19:20 pm »

Its the blood not the deer!!!   If the deer ain't bleeding then the dog should learn to not mess with it. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2013, 05:06:25 pm »

Well I'm about to have a talk with some of our game wardens... Oklahoma it's illegal to track deer with dogs but after tracking a deer for five hours today I'm gonna call em and see what they'll say to me doing it. Most people think it's stupid to not allow it for wounded deer. I agree.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2013, 07:09:11 pm »

I live in Oklahoma and my local Game Warden has and promotes a blood-dog!!!   Now that don't mean its legal but that's the truth.  He took his dog out last week and looked for a deer for a friend of mine.  HUH!!!!   Go figure.   Sad part is the dog is not any good apparently, the deer was not found.  LOL
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2013, 08:54:29 pm »

What county? I'ma talk to some in the areas I hunt. Hopefully they'll feel the same way
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 01:18:42 pm »

I dont know about the gw dog but just because the dog didnt find deer does not mean dog no good .ITs the hunter who scerwed up.Dog there to try and fix human screw up. THeres a lot of varibles when trackin wounded game.The one thing thats always the same is human error.THeres a lot of animals that hunters say they hit perfect that are still walking I guess they are zombies.I guess I just think more of dogs than humans 
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 01:21:54 pm »

a guy a grew up with his dad was the same way, cowdog and hog dog to him were the same dog, it was like the dogs knew what time is was when he wanted to catch a hog the dogs would be straight hog, its crazy the bond they had with there owner
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 06:08:45 pm »

I have heard a dog will pick up quick. But it helps to use different gear for different jobs .
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 09:19:23 pm »

Can it be done, I think it can but as coach said you have to spend a lot of time working the dog and forming that bond/trust. You always hear "the old timers did it", true, but this old timers relied in this dogs to live!  I have both hog dogs and blood tracking dogs.  My passion is finding wounded deer.  My blood dogs are worth too much to put them on hogs so I keep them on one discipline. I prefer they excel at one  disciplene.  And as my dogs get older and the more tracks we work together you form that bond and trust in each other. Here are a few from this year...



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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 11:40:08 am »

a blood dog, doesnt only pick up on the blood it is smelling but also the scent that is released between its hoofs after being shot caused by adrealine...
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