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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2013, 02:23:12 pm » |
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Easy question to answer hunting behind the keyboard, different story in the woods with real decisions to face.
I hunt hogs for fun and I protect my dogs as much as I can. Ive learned that some of the best dogs are the dogs that live the longest; the longer they are alive, the more they learn and the better they sharpen their skills. If I were down to some pups, I would not turn them loose on a rank hog that has killed before. Depending on what old dog I had left, Id probably try to bay him and shoot with my 30-30 or get him running across a road and knock him down that way. My goal would be to get the hog caught or killed and have enough dogs to hunt the next day.
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KevinN
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2013, 02:24:25 pm » |
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Been there and done it.
Two dogs and a gun got it done. 365 lb boar.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2013, 02:27:14 pm » |
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As far as baying and shooting....think that's the direction these guys are leaning. Take bulldogs in case it's something else...but have the. 30-30 as well...if it's the big boy.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2013, 02:32:40 pm » |
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You know...losing dogs is always the gamble we take...on every hunt.
I know some guys are ALWAYS packing. Not a bad idea.
Only way you find out a hog is a dog killer is after he kills your dog. That equalizer on your hip or slung across your back can solve a lot of that I guess.....provided your willing to do the things necessary to see the hog before you unsnap. Then again...that's just not possible 100% of the time.
Such is life
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2013, 03:50:31 pm » |
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There are many way to look at this I have been on some dog killers and one that should have killed the dogs but you take this risk every time you unload the truck. If they run they can kill the dog that keeps up if the stop they can run thru a pack in my opion good catch and hold is the key but you have to get there fast if they are going to kill your dog they will do it with or without a rifle so I hunt scared but respectfull of my prey and he best do the same I am ready for battle at every creek cedar flat or what every luck is dedication determination placed against opportunity jmo
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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2013, 04:36:17 pm » |
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I would bay it with a few loose dogs and walk in with a gun and give him blew eyes.
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2013, 04:42:30 pm » |
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loose bay dog and walk in from the down wind side with a rifle
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2013, 05:13:03 pm » |
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I'd bay him and cut two bulldogs to him like I do any other big hog. The key is being right there behind the bulldogs when they catch.
A lot of these "dog killers" are because of dogs being caught too long in my opinion.
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2013, 05:24:36 pm » |
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I'd bay him and cut two bulldogs to him like I do any other big hog. The key is being right there behind the bulldogs when they catch.
A lot of these "dog killers" are because of dogs being caught too long in my opinion.
this would be my other choice as well...just release 2 good catch dogs from up close...no gritty bay dogs... |
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2013, 05:28:13 pm » |
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It's my understand this dude was never caught
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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2013, 05:58:02 pm » |
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I'd bay him and cut two bulldogs to him like I do any other big hog. The key is being right there behind the bulldogs when they catch.
A lot of these "dog killers" are because of dogs being caught too long in my opinion.
X2 within 50yds cut em and run like hell behind em and tackle/leg that sob |
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2013, 06:42:30 pm » |
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A lot of variables go into this, if I could guarantee I knew where this hog I would turn kick some strike dogs that were loose baying. Once they get em stopped have 3 catch dogs at the ready and be right behind em. I think the key to gettin a big hog is for the handlers to be right in there to help your dogs. Lots of times a big hog can and will fight of dogs before anyone can get a leg on him. The best chance is the first chance. Just my 2 pennies
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2013, 06:44:04 pm » |
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I wouldn't shoot him unless that's how I always hunted. Taking your dogs to catch that hog would not be a suicide mission for them it would be taking them to do what you feed them for. Their hunting dogs not pets. If the hog was standing in the median on the interstate that would be a suicide mission. I've been on a few hunts where dogs were killed and just did it like every other hog if I could I would bring it home take a picture and let it go for another day.
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« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2013, 07:46:25 pm » |
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I wouldn't shoot him unless that's how I always hunted. Taking your dogs to catch that hog would not be a suicide mission for them it would be taking them to do what you feed them for. Their hunting dogs not pets. If the hog was standing in the median on the interstate that would be a suicide mission. I've been on a few hunts where dogs were killed and just did it like every other hog if I could I would bring it home take a picture and let it go for another day.
im most folks don't feed dogs just to throw them to the lions. knowingly just turning loose to see if the dogs do their job or if you come back a few dogs lite is stupid, if you cared about your dogs in the first place. do a role reversal and put yourself in the dogs shoes and tell me you would do the exact same, go in knowing your gonna get killed. there is a chance everytime of turning loose, but turning loose in the area where the dog killer is know to roam about and that is his territory, his backyard the proper thing to do for your dogs is do the best to protect them, just like you ask them to protect you and your family. i guess i actually give a damn about my dogs. |
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« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2013, 07:57:05 pm » |
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I wouldn't shoot him unless that's how I always hunted. Taking your dogs to catch that hog would not be a suicide mission for them it would be taking them to do what you feed them for. Their hunting dogs not pets. If the hog was standing in the median on the interstate that would be a suicide mission. I've been on a few hunts where dogs were killed and just did it like every other hog if I could I would bring it home take a picture and let it go for another day.
im most folks don't feed dogs just to throw them to the lions. knowingly just turning loose to see if the dogs do their job or if you come back a few dogs lite is stupid, if you cared about your dogs in the first place. do a role reversal and put yourself in the dogs shoes and tell me you would do the exact same, go in knowing your gonna get killed. there is a chance everytime of turning loose, but turning loose in the area where the dog killer is know to roam about and that is his territory, his backyard the proper thing to do for your dogs is do the best to protect them, just like you ask them to protect you and your family. i guess i actually give a damn about my dogs. I just don't agree with this Charles...Bo never said he didn't care about his dogs and sure don't act like it, but I definitely agree with Bo. There could be a dog killer around every corner but that sure don't mean anything or going to keep me from hunting. There's no role reversal, I raise dogs to catch hogs and that's simple. I don't guess most agree with actually putting your hands on a "dog killer" and then barring him and cutting him back loose, but that's just how it works for me and mine. Nobody has to agree with it, but it sure aint gonna make me quit but I won't have it said nobody takes care of their dogs because we expect more outta them then the average person. |
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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2013, 08:08:12 pm » |
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I'd bay him and cut two bulldogs to him like I do any other big hog. The key is being right there behind the bulldogs when they catch.
A lot of these "dog killers" are because of dogs being caught too long in my opinion.
Agreed!! Got to back your dogs up. We catch a number 2 ton of bad hogs and we don't lose dogs but we are in there with them when it goes down I'd bay him and cut two bulldogs to him like I do any other big hog. The key is being right there behind the bulldogs when they catch.
A lot of these "dog killers" are because of dogs being caught too long in my opinion.
X2 within 50yds cut em and run like hell behind em and tackle/leg that sob You don't look too fleet of foot lol  You may want to make that about 15 yards before you cut them loose. If he's a killer he's gonna know what to do and you need to back them up Personally these are the ones we want to catch!! I'm ready |
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charles
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« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2013, 08:11:30 pm » |
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I wouldn't stop either ben, but im not gonna throw my dogs to the wolves just to catch him. I do agree to keep hunting, but do the best you can do to keep the dogs safe. again, the possibility of loosing a dog is always around the corner, but do every means possible to help the dogs. just feeding, watering and meds aint the end of caring for the dog/s, care falls into all phases of ownership of them and nowhere does it mean keep sending dogs to a slaughter house, its not the roman coloceum with gladiators and spectators cheering on the slaughter. yours and his way aint wrong by no means, but for the safety of the dog/s it aint the best way.
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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2013, 08:29:59 pm » |
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People!!! Read the entire thread... Lol.
I don't have anything to do with this hog...just a hog and some boys I know of that are dealing with him.
As I said BEFORE....I don't THINK the CD's have EVER made contact with this hog (successfully anyway). I don't care if your hangin off the Bulldogs tail... If he can't get an ear... It doesn't matter how fast you are or how close you release.
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2013, 08:30:03 pm » |
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Personally I don't go in the woods unarmed. I have shot a big bad boar that cut the catch dogs throat and 4 bay dogs. This same hog the best of our knowledge killed 9 dogs prior. Reason we think it was this hog. Has not been another dog killed since. We didn't turn loose to get that hog. Actually dropped on a sow killed her then got on him when the dogs went back in. I'm not gonna stop running a place because of a bad hog but I will be looking for him. Dog on the ground or not if I get the chance he is gonna die. I understand loseing a dog is possible at any time. But to not go in with every tool possible to get the job done is out of the question. That was 1 of 2 hogs that shooting is what had to be done. All of those dogs survived. Unlike the first 9.
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