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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2013, 08:57:22 pm »

2 big straight catch dogs and a pit. Dump 200 lbs on any boar and he's a caught butt. Tie him up.  A big boar or barr is worth at least $150 to me.
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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2013, 09:35:08 pm »

Kevin it's hard to answer your question. But if I was dealing with one like that where I hunt I would put two loose dogs on him. Sounds like he runs a little and waits around the corner so I think two would be good because they wouldn't be running in to each other when they was being charged and the dog that wasn't being charged could maybe turn the hog back around off the other dog. And the more he runs the better it will be he can't fight to much with his tongue hanging outt.
Charles I don't see where going catch that hog would be stupid or throwing them to the wolves I could see if the hog was in a 4x8 pen that would be number 2ty. I like to catch big hogs not pigs I don't see how that makes me not care about my dogs.hunting them around deer hunters or where people have out coyote poised or foot traps or busy highways is crazy and it is our responsibility to take care of them and keep them out of them situations but going after a hog like that is part of hunting. I don't know what kind of terrain the hog is in but around here two ruff dogs would be bad on a hog like this because 99% of the time it's going to be over a mile away and take atleast 1 hour to get to it he's probably be walked off by then. Good luck Kevin hope your buddy's get him we'd like to see a pic
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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2013, 11:32:00 pm »

keep after him. definately wouldn't quit hunting a spot just because he is around
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 02:25:46 am »

loose bay dog and walk in from the down wind side with a rifle
  YA sounds like a job for july hounds an put that boar hog in the dirt with a gun!
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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 07:18:36 am »

I would take some loose bay dogs an some sure enough catch dogs ...... Personally I would take the smallest catch dogs I could find small like Patterdale or jag or small pit , that way I believe it's harder to cut a small dog if you have 3 or 4 of them at once , it's gonna be hard for him to kill them an they all let go before some one gets there hands on him ,

I wouldn't kill him once I caught him , he has fought this hard to live why kill him now ?? I cut his nuts an let him go ,
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« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2013, 08:14:36 am »

  I hunt for the sport of it & catching or trying to catch hogs like that is what it is all about to me. Just me, but shooting a hog takes away from the sport of catching them alive. I grew up where it was taboo to shoot a hog & that is just me.
 A hog that wins & keeps on winning has my respect & it just makes me try harder or I  change strategies . Sure, you hate it when you lose dogs & get them busted up but that is all part of the game.
  I would do like suggested & use looser baying dogs with a very good catchdog or two.
  We had a hog like this a few years ago & it took a couple or three years to catch him again & boy did he leave a bunch of dead & cut dogs in that time period. I will post that story on a different thread.
  Good luck to your buddies Kevin.
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« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2013, 09:17:20 am »

loose bay dog and walk in from the down wind side with a rifle

That's the way I would do it!!
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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2013, 11:21:56 am »

A hog like that too learns where to bay so he can beat the dogs , if you make him break a few times an put enough heat on him he will start slipping up an maybe bay some where more dog friendly
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« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2013, 03:06:44 pm »

Kevin correct me if I am wrong, but you said the hog runs far awhile and stops at the same spot all the time? Or close to it?


If this is correct AMBUSH the SOB. Either send in loose baying dogs after having a guy go in and wait hours before you release like deer hunting or have a group of guys with sure nuff quiet catchdogs and several of them waiting for his ass. We have done this before on a hog that we were having trouble stopping he would run, fight, run, fight, and the catchdogs never got to him. He always ran the same way so we had my dad and a friend waiting with extra dogs about a mile up from where we always struck him. Once struck we sent everything we had to the bay like always. Only difference is my dad and friend waited until they could hear the fight and bay good and sent in catch from the other way and caught his ass.
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« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2013, 04:13:59 pm »

In my yrs in the woods,and with a dog killer,ive caught a few,but i just shoot them,send them to hell.if iam hunting him he has killed my dogs.so thats put hin as my enemy,was taught at a young age if you step on my shoes,i stomp on urs.will post a story of a dog killer that i watched kill 5 my dogs,i lost count how many he cut,3 yrs i chased him.
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« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2013, 11:02:09 am »

I'm with Ben. I would want to catch him, cut em and turn em loose. That's what I want to catch, the one that everyone says can't b caught. As for what or how I would do it, I would do it the same way I do the other ones.
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« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2013, 07:01:35 pm »

A hog is not a dog killer until it kills a dog and THAT can happen anytime u turn loose. If it was me I would treat just like I do any other hog turn em loose an haul a$$ behind em. Just bc it's killed a dog before don't mean it will kill any in the next pack that gets on him. Any descent boar with descent teeth CAN kill one. I had one dog get killed few years ago an I still caught the hog
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« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2013, 07:13:06 pm »

A hog is not a dog killer until it kills a dog and THAT can happen anytime u turn loose. If it was me I would treat just like I do any other hog turn em loose an haul a$$ behind em. Just bc it's killed a dog before don't mean it will kill any in the next pack that gets on him. Any descent boar with descent teeth CAN kill one. I had one dog get killed few years ago an I still caught the hog

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« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2013, 07:37:01 pm »

First off, sorry to hear about the 2 packs being almost wiped out!
I am not a expert and I do not have the best dogs, but I have caught more of my big boars just using one solid bay dog and a catchdog. To many dogs and most boars will break and try and string the dogs out and take them on one at a time. They got big from being smart! Probably the same thing I would do if I was being hunted by a bunch of people!! Like Rambo did in the movie when being hunted in the mountains, string them out and pick them off one at a time!!
I would have my best bay dog out and slip in down wind when he got him bayed. Get as close as you could without him buggering out and turn 2 BMFing catchdogs to him, haul ass to the catch and throw and tie!!
The other option is the same scenerio but instead of catchdogs I would have a FNAR slip in after bayed and give him a dirt nap!!
Had the same thing happen to me last year. Big bad boar hog that flat whooped other packs asses. Got a invite to try him. My 2 dogs get him stopped, slip up on him down wind and sneaky, turn catchdog to him, he kills my catchdog on the spot, charges me and hauls ass. My dogs restop him while I try and save my catchdog. Land owner finally catches up to me and says we need to get the hog off the property, goes to his truck, comes back with a pistol, we slip up on the bay down wind and I put one in his eye!! Would of prefered trying to catch him but did not have another catchdog and he was not going to live another day if I could do something about it!!
Good luck regardless of what you decide to do.
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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2013, 07:40:03 pm »

any boar hog can kill a dog at any given time and that is true but it does not happen very often...it happens because we make a wrong decision when turning the catch dog loose at the wrong time or the dogs get too rough on that hog...sometimes the dogs get rough because they are fresh out of the box and they will be more apt to throw caution to the wind at that time...or they get caught up in a tight place where they can't maneuver and get a bad hit etc...etc...and then there is the occasional hog that sets up to try and kill a dog or a dog pack...and as long as they can get away will continue to do the same...this hog has a different mindset of the average boar hog...just like any one else it is my opinion from what I have seen and a few stories I have been told over the years...
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« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2013, 07:47:36 pm »

any boar hog can kill a dog at any given time and that is true but it does not happen very often...it happens because we make a wrong decision when turning the catch dog loose at the wrong time or the dogs get too rough on that hog...sometimes the dogs get rough because they are fresh out of the box and they will be more apt to throw caution to the wind at that time...or they get caught up in a tight place where they can't maneuver and get a bad hit etc...etc...and then there is the occasional hog that sets up to try and kill a dog or a dog pack...and as long as they can get away will continue to do the same...this hog has a different mindset of the average boar hog...just like any one else it is my opinion from what I have seen and a few stories I have been told over the years...

I hear you Reuben and from what I've been told...it's that type of Boar
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« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2013, 08:46:35 pm »

I also grew up in a time wen we only killed a barr,and that was after we caught him,drug him home ,feed him out.daddy beat me at a young age dont be killing them hogs,we caught everything in the woods.lost dogs,but thats the chance u take,had a yard full of young dogs ready to step up.we never took a gun.so to me ive caught a few in my days,have a dog grave yard with 50 dead hogdogs in it,most died from a hogs tooth.few died of old age.i would rather bay with 2 loose dogs and shoot him.and all live to fight another day.
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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2013, 09:02:19 pm »

Sounds like a good hog, that's been educated , a couple good dogs stand back out of harms way , and if he wants to run let him wear hisself out, and like was said before 2 catch dogs and be right behind um, i like to run garmin collars on my catch dogs too and has helped several times on a good one blowing out and turning in to wreck with catch dogs catching further out,  good luck with him
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« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2013, 02:45:48 pm »

i just assume shoot him if hes goin through dogs like that.
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« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2013, 06:14:34 pm »

Give him a bullet to the dome
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