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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 04:10:52 pm »

Remind me to never use any of these ideas,pick the best,and place other,my last litter i have 2 males that are brothers,if u let them they will fight till one is dead,some slow down with age,.good luck man.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 04:29:36 pm »

My bulldog (my kids house dog) and my lead cur dog cant stand each other.  Couldn't tell you why but if my bulldog gets in the back yard its game on.  The bulldog usually starts it and the cur usually comes out on top.  All I do is choke the bulldog out while pulling away from the cur and he ALWAYS lets go right before losing consciousness.  the cur will out if I yell out him AFTER the bulldog quits.   

My family and most of my friends know not to let the bulldog out of the house into the back yard, but If there are a bunch of people over I just lock his silly rear in a bedroom.  In short if they both serve a purpose separate them, If you cant separate them get rid of one.  just my .02
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2013, 05:09:04 pm »

Pee on their heads.  (Its like a mild sedative)  will calm and soothe the dogs into a submissive  stalemate.   Wink
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2013, 06:00:02 pm »

I cannot stand a dog that fights. I got rid of the best dog I ever had or seen hunted because of this. Tried everything short of killing him. It's time to keep the best one and send the other somewhere else. I probably would get rid of both and start with some other dogs. I have all males in my yard and they all get along.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2013, 06:05:26 pm »

If I'm close to a tree or something I will tie one dog off and lift the back legs of the other dog as high as I can, they have always let go when I do that. Another thing I have done is put a hose on full blast in their face but not with my hands close to them , they are either going to let go or they are going to kind of drown I guess you would say
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2013, 06:21:23 pm »

If its constant cull the instigator easy solution imo
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2013, 06:22:43 pm »

2 young males, gettin full of testosterone, they are gonna scrap to establish pack dominance. You can let em sort it out as to who's boss dog, or  send one packing, or seperate them, and dont ever hunt them together . Might be once they figure out wat running hogs is all about, they'll be so jazzed to hunt that they wont be in a pi$$in contest when you drop the gate. But like 's been said, you'll have to figure it out trial and error. Good luck.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2013, 07:03:58 pm »

Nothing worse than fighting dogs.

1. Grab em by the tail lift them up and apply a Squirrel grip and twist OR
2. Back of a shovel to the head
3. Cull if you have to do it more than a few times

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 08:29:16 pm »

As long as they don't fight in the woods than just make sure they are seperated at home. I've had a few males that would ONLY fight if they were at home but in the woods they were best friends...I've had a few fights in the woods but that was with a friends dog bowing up with mine... I make sure at home dogs can't ever get at each other.. It's easy to tell which will fight and which won't by their attitudes. I know a lot of people don't spend enough time just observing and working around their dogs to notice but some will know what I mean. If I'm alone I get one tied off to something and get a break stick, but that's if it's bulldogs. If its cur dogs and I'm alone I TRY to tie one off but they are usually nipping at everything they can so its a bit harder, but once I do I grab the others back legs and then flip them and drag away. I never see a dog that fights as a cull, unless its constant while trying to hunt, because its natural for dogs to fight and est a pecking order.
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2013, 08:30:53 pm »

And most of the times if the fights start at home it's because of them being together when they aren't supposed to and shouldve been kept apart jmo
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2013, 08:43:20 pm »

And most of the times if the fights start at home it's because of them being together when they aren't supposed to and shouldve been kept apart jmo

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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2013, 11:55:10 pm »

because its natural for dogs to fight and est a pecking order.

I establish the pecking order at my place...and win every dog fight
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2013, 07:30:25 am »

I agree with Aussie I am the Alpha in my pack. They do not fight in the yard or woods! Why waiste your time with fighters! There are plenty of good dogs to be had that do not fight!
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2013, 08:28:58 am »

I haven't had a dog fight here yet that my cattle prod wouldn't break up in a hurry. I don't have any "game dogs" here but its worked on the bulldogs and cur dogs around here
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2013, 09:23:33 am »

x2 on the Alpha dog...I did own a good pitbull that he and one of my best cur dogs never saw eye to eye...seems like once a game bred pit gets something in his head he is hard to break...I like a cur dog that doesn't start any trouble but also want him to not take any crap from another dog...
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2013, 09:47:06 am »

My dogs all know I am alpha...no doubts there...but when it boils down to the bulldogs, if they're home on the yard and not out working and actually doing something, and somehow someway a hardware malfunction on their chains occur, and one breaks off......human alpha doesn't mean shat anymore. All that's on their mind is battle royale if they run into another bulldog. Only thing separating that is a break stick to break holds, and pulling the loose dog out of that chain spot as fast as possible.

I know that in this forum we are talking about folks who own bulldogs for catching purposes, so they usually own only one, maybe two. As well as the fact that a lot of folks seem to expect their bulldogs to run amongst the other dogs freely. To each their own prerogative. But to me, the risk is always there. I don't care how cold the bulldog is. I've seen it over and over with my own two eyes. (Ours are used as lead in CD's, and when they are home, they are all secure to their own chain spots.) It also urks me a bit when I hear people so quick to condemn a bulldog to death when for whatever reason said bulldog shows dog aggression. I can see the dog being a poor fit to that person, I get that,I really do, but it IS a breed characteristic/trait that people ARE aware of, and should  understand before owning one. (Even folks that just keep one around for a CD.) Bulldog/Bulldog breeds aren't for everyone. A lot of folks don't even know how to handle one in case of a yard accident. Which is something else everyone that feeds a bulldog should know (how to effectively break a bulldog off of something, with a break stick) Same concept as breaking them off a hog really, yet I still see people throw out all the crazy advice like shocking/wetting/whopping over the head etc. (Which very well may work on other breeds, lol.) Bulldogs are in a league of their own. We all have our own expectations of our packs and I respect that, but I just get so tired of hearing people condemning bulldogs to death so quickly when they exhibit a trait that has been in their genetics for many decades. Kinda like getting pissed at a Australian shepherd for nipping at your heels wanting to herd, or a terrier for digging holes in the yard. Different levels of outcome, but same concept.
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2013, 09:52:17 am »

My dogs all know I am alpha...no doubts there...but when it boils down to the bulldogs, if they're home on the yard and not out working and actually doing something, and somehow someway a hardware malfunction on their chains occur, and one breaks off......human alpha doesn't mean shat anymore. All that's on their mind is battle royale if they run into another bulldog. Only thing separating that is a break stick to break holds, and pulling the loose dog out of that chain spot as fast as possible.

I know that in this forum we are talking about folks who own bulldogs for catching purposes, so they usually own only one, maybe two. As well as the fact that a lot of folks seem to expect their bulldogs to run amongst the other dogs freely. To each their own prerogative. But to me, the risk is always there. I don't care how cold the bulldog is. I've seen it over and over with my own two eyes. (Ours are used as lead in CD's, and when they are home, they are all secure to their own chain spots.) It also urks me a bit when I hear people so quick to condemn a bulldog to death when for whatever reason said bulldog shows dog aggression. I can see the dog being a poor fit to that person, I get that,I really do, but it IS a breed characteristic/trait that people ARE aware of, and should  understand before owning one. (Even folks that just keep one around for a CD.) Bulldog/Bulldog breeds aren't for everyone. A lot of folks don't even know how to handle one in case of a yard accident. Which is something else everyone that feeds a bulldog should know (how to effectively break a bulldog off of something, with a break stick) Same concept as breaking them off a hog really, yet I still see people throw out all the crazy advice like shocking/wetting/whopping over the head etc. (Which very well may work on other breeds, lol.) Bulldogs are in a league of their own. We all have our own expectations of our packs and I respect that, but I just get so tired of hearing people condemning bulldogs to death so quickly when they exhibit a trait that has been in their genetics for many decades. Kinda like getting pissed at a Australian shepherd for nipping at your heels wanting to herd, or a terrier for digging holes in the yard. Different levels of outcome, but same concept.


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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2013, 09:58:19 am »

Shock em with the hot shot on the inside of there back leg
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2013, 10:00:25 am »

And yes everyone might say they are alpha, because I am too. But they are still dogs and will still have an order BELOW you. Usually that order is all figured out until you bring in another dog/ pups. If a dog is all hyped up and get to another its not going to give it hugs and kisses. But I still don't see how a bulldog fighting is a cull... Yeah there might be some out there that DON'T fight but it's still in them and will probably come out when you don't expect it to happen and let them be kenneled with another.. It's not IF its going to happen its WHEN.
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2013, 10:44:56 am »

My dogs all know I am alpha...no doubts there...but when it boils down to the bulldogs, if they're home on the yard and not out working and actually doing something, and somehow someway a hardware malfunction on their chains occur, and one breaks off......human alpha doesn't mean shat anymore. All that's on their mind is battle royale if they run into another bulldog. Only thing separating that is a break stick to break holds, and pulling the loose dog out of that chain spot as fast as possible.

I know that in this forum we are talking about folks who own bulldogs for catching purposes, so they usually own only one, maybe two. As well as the fact that a lot of folks seem to expect their bulldogs to run amongst the other dogs freely. To each their own prerogative. But to me, the risk is always there. I don't care how cold the bulldog is. I've seen it over and over with my own two eyes. (Ours are used as lead in CD's, and when they are home, they are all secure to their own chain spots.) It also urks me a bit when I hear people so quick to condemn a bulldog to death when for whatever reason said bulldog shows dog aggression. I can see the dog being a poor fit to that person, I get that,I really do, but it IS a breed characteristic/trait that people ARE aware of, and should  understand before owning one. (Even folks that just keep one around for a CD.) Bulldog/Bulldog breeds aren't for everyone. A lot of folks don't even know how to handle one in case of a yard accident. Which is something else everyone that feeds a bulldog should know (how to effectively break a bulldog off of something, with a break stick) Same concept as breaking them off a hog really, yet I still see people throw out all the crazy advice like shocking/wetting/whopping over the head etc. (Which very well may work on other breeds, lol.) Bulldogs are in a league of their own. We all have our own expectations of our packs and I respect that, but I just get so tired of hearing people condemning bulldogs to death so quickly when they exhibit a trait that has been in their genetics for many decades. Kinda like getting pissed at a Australian shepherd for nipping at your heels wanting to herd, or a terrier for digging holes in the yard. Different levels of outcome, but same concept.



Amen!!! I agree ,our dogs know the alpha is, but dog will be dogs!
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