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« on: December 07, 2013, 12:34:53 pm »

Didn't want to steal a thread so....

I'm not so sure that just because you can put 1 dog on the ground and catch hogs that that "tells you what you got" concerning your dogs.

IMO it doesn't take much to find/bay/catch a hog where there are a good number of hogs. If a dog is halfway interested in hunting he'll find a hog if hogs are near by. Most hogs won't break from the pressure of 1 dog. The CD and how/where you release is.....in my opinion .....the most important factor in the above scenario.

I support my opinion with the fact that Jasper can do it by himself and I KNOW he's not a superstar.

Funny...my thoughts seem to be coming full circle.....

IDK....Maybe I'm wrong...I guess it WILL "tell you what you got" as far as whether your dog will actually hunt to a degree. Whether he can hold a bay by himself, to a degree. Whether he has at least enough bottom to cover a couple breaks for sure.

Hmmm....I guess you CAN learn a bit  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 05:39:36 pm »

Kevin, I hunted for years in this one place where hogs are known to run & with one catahoula out & I would lead a bulldog in for catching. I was talking to a guy & He told me if I could put his plotts on a hot track, his dogs would bay it or catch it. I said come on down & we ran hogs for 2 days straight without so much as a bay. Now I have plotts & I have caught them in this area with plots but I caught a lot more with one dog out & a lead in catchdog.
  I have hunted a lot the way Taz hunts & have had curs like his that were gritty. Put one by himself & he would go & bay in a thicket but in the open he would catch. If he bayed I would get to him & turn this other cur loose. Not many hogs got away.
  I like to hear a race & bear hunt so I run plotts now. Personal choice. Of course most of my plotts are on the catchy side & if a hog hangs around for more then a second, they normally catch him pretty quick. It seems like a lot of the problem is in running hogs is to many dogs on the ground & hog knows he is safer running.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 06:10:18 pm »

Kevin, I hunted for years in this one place where hogs are known to run & with one catahoula out & I would lead a bulldog in for catching. I was talking to a guy & He told me if I could put his plotts on a hot track, his dogs would bay it or catch it. I said come on down & we ran hogs for 2 days straight without so much as a bay. Now I have plotts & I have caught them in this area with plots but I caught a lot more with one dog out & a lead in catchdog.
  I have hunted a lot the way Taz hunts & have had curs like his that were gritty. Put one by himself & he would go & bay in a thicket but in the open he would catch. If he bayed I would get to him & turn this other cur loose. Not many hogs got away.
  I like to hear a race & bear hunt so I run plotts now. Personal choice. Of course most of my plotts are on the catchy side & if a hog hangs around for more then a second, they normally catch him pretty quick. It seems like a lot of the problem is in running hogs is to many dogs on the ground & hog knows he is safer running.

Well said Cajun!!!   I had to read that twice to make sure I didn't make that post!!!  lol
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 07:17:28 pm »

Kevin...I am guilty of saying that all the time...if you want to know what kind of hog dog you have then take it hog hunting by itself...and if you feel confident that you will be shooting hogs over the dog or releasing a good catch dog and catching pigs then you have a good dog...

the reason I always say this is because so many people think they have a good hog dog but in fact it is a good me too dog...as you know to the inexperienced a good me too dog might look like a good dog when running with good dogs...just trying to be helpful...and hoping these me too dogs don't beget more of the same because of lack of knowledge...
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 07:20:43 pm »

Im going to agree with Mike.  Couldn't say it any better or add to it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 08:10:14 pm »

In my opinion if I can't get the job done with just one dog I don't need to hunt. I hunt one ybmc all the time and catch hogs. Hunting 2 dogs it seemed like I got out run a lot because I have rough dogs
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 11:59:29 pm »

Kevin...I am guilty of saying that all the time...if you want to know what kind of hog dog you have then take it hog hunting by itself...and if you feel confident that you will be shooting hogs over the dog or releasing a good catch dog and catching pigs then you have a good dog...

the reason I always say this is because so many people think they have a good hog dog but in fact it is a good me too dog...as you know to the inexperienced a good me too dog might look like a good dog when running with good dogs...just trying to be helpful...and hoping these me too dogs don't beget more of the same because of lack of knowledge...

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 11:17:06 am »

I agree with Reuben about finding out what you have in the solo scenario. I agree with Kevin that putting a dog where there are plenty of hogs and sign that a dog with even half the want to could produce something. What I take from Reuben's thinking is that they produce in more difficult situations, less than ideal. Puppies can produce in heavily populated areas or hot sign. But, when the track is difficult, or there might not be but one ol' hog in an area and your dog still gets the job done then you have a measuring stick.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 04:29:14 pm »

I agree with Reuben about finding out what you have in the solo scenario. I agree with Kevin that putting a dog where there are plenty of hogs and sign that a dog with even half the want to could produce something. What I take from Reuben's thinking is that they produce in more difficult situations, less than ideal. Puppies can produce in heavily populated areas or hot sign. But, when the track is difficult, or there might not be but one ol' hog in an area and your dog still gets the job done then you have a measuring stick.

I agree...a good dog should find game even when scarce...
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 05:55:21 pm »

Cajun said it right. Why dump a bunch of me to dogs or help dogs and chase hogs around? I like casting a dog out and leading one, and Catching hogs. If I have two dogs out its because I am training a pup with the older dog!! Limited on the dogs I keep, so they better do it by themselves or it's gone!!
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 05:57:50 pm »

I don't own a catch dog so to speak, I run one to two curs dogs on the ground at a time.  If two are there they will catch.  don't get many split bays but If I do, my dogs will catch when I get there without another dog.
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