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« on: December 08, 2013, 04:00:35 pm » |
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What's a well started to finished (20 month to 3 years) strike/bay dog worth in Florida? Had an 'ol boy who was pretty dang adamant that no dog was worth $1500 He was willing to sell me his whole pack for $750  Said they'd do anything a $1500 dog would do. Lol Honestly....just wondering if there really is a huge price difference between Texas and Florida....or maybe y'all's market is just flooded with AWESOME dogs  |
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rdjustham
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 04:06:33 pm » |
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Well guess it depends on who you talk to and what they are willing to pay, like anything else.
Some people don't value dogs as high as others. Buddy of mine has a finished dog that will strike, bay and catch with another dog, trash broke etc... and he only thinks the dogs is worth 350. It just depends.
1500 wouldn't get my lead dog though that's for sure.
To me a "started" dog isn't worth 1500, to me a 20 month dog is 350 (ish) depending on what "well started" shows in the woods. by 3 years if it does it alone like I like 1500 seems fair enough depending on what kind of dog it is, straight yella or black and tans fl curs tend to bring more money cause they are harder to get your hands on.
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KevinN
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2013, 04:14:45 pm » |
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Yeah....I figured this guy as just a strange bird. Didn't think there'd be that much difference, lol
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2013, 04:34:47 pm » |
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Kevin a few years ago I got tired of trying dogs only to find out some peoples ideal of a good young dog was different than mine. Most people are honest and are not trying to pass off a lesser dog on anyone else but if they truly know what a nice young dog is then they'll know what its worth, regardless of what state they hunt in. A cheap dog scares me far more than a more expensive dog.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 04:43:00 pm » |
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You know kevin the more I think on it; friend of mine that got me back into this wonderful money saving sport  Gave me a gyp that was 6-7 years old and a one man show. He had good up and comers off his best dog that died giving birth to them and was keepin all males so he give me her. when I said I wasn't gonna start up again because my son was just born he told me it was ok he had a boy that was gonna give him 300 for her and he was gonna take it. same dog a couple years later a man with more money than sense had a few grand on the front of his 60k dollar buggy trying to buy her off me. and before you ask, momma said if she didn't come home with me, not to come home..  |
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 04:45:55 pm » |
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John Doe can get 2500 dollars for a very good hog dog because he is John Doe...
Joe Blow can only get 300 dollars for the same dog because he is Joe Blow...
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KevinN
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 04:50:34 pm » |
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Reuben....that's true enough!
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 05:08:41 pm » |
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That is a question that probably needs refined based on FL's different geographic areas. I grew up in South FL around Ft. Myers. I remember as a kid hunting with older guys. We rode through orange groves and shined for hogs. When we saw one, we cut two bulldogs lose and caught a hog.
Many years later in college in Orlando, buddies and I hunted off of airboats. We would ride the lakes with a couple cur dogs and when the dogs winded, we his the shore running behind the dogs, we caught a lot this way too.
Even more years later, another buddy of mine introduced me to hunting around Jacksonville with hounds and hound crosses. By this time, the hogs were starting to run a little.
Florida is like Texas. The panhandle is completely different than the everglades, just like the difference between West and East TX. Different dogs work good in some places. I think the value of the dog depends on the area in FL you are talking about.
A short range bloack headed cur dog from Labelle, FL may do a great job in East TX....maybe not so well in West TX.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 05:36:47 pm » |
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That is a question that probably needs refined based on FL's different geographic areas. I grew up in South FL around Ft. Myers. I remember as a kid hunting with older guys. We rode through orange groves and shined for hogs. When we saw one, we cut two bulldogs lose and caught a hog.
Many years later in college in Orlando, buddies and I hunted off of airboats. We would ride the lakes with a couple cur dogs and when the dogs winded, we his the shore running behind the dogs, we caught a lot this way too.
Even more years later, another buddy of mine introduced me to hunting around Jacksonville with hounds and hound crosses. By this time, the hogs were starting to run a little.
Florida is like Texas. The panhandle is completely different than the everglades, just like the difference between West and East TX. Different dogs work good in some places. I think the value of the dog depends on the area in FL you are talking about.
A short range bloack headed cur dog from Labelle, FL may do a great job in East TX....maybe not so well in West TX.
You grew up in my neck of the woods. I got a place to run in Muse and another right across 75 from Webb on tuckers grade. Whered you go to high school. |
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 05:40:33 pm » |
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Went to Estero High. Cypress Lake Middle. Spent a lot of time in and around Riverdale and Labelle.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2013, 05:41:29 pm » |
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We probably know some of the same folks. I went to North graduated 2000
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 05:47:12 pm » |
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Before I started to hog hunt, I can remember riding my bicycle from my house to the bust stop- it was about a 4 mile ride and it was all through my Step-dad's agriculture farm. He raised mostly tomatos and strawberries and owned a U-Pick market. It was nothing for me to see 30-50 hogs in a day out around his farm. Back then I was only knee high to a grass hopper and didn't give a darn about an ol pig. When we talked about Fl Cur dogs, they were usually leopard dogs and had big blocky heads. Looked a lot like a 1/4 pit x 3/4 Cat. These ol dogs were ruff and we never used anything other than a nylon collar. No tracking equipment and no cut gear. The hogs were plentiful and the land was easy.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 05:47:43 pm » |
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Reuben, see that al the time.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 05:51:00 pm » |
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I got some of that fl blood in my spotted dog the Black and Tan came from a guy in fl named Chris some thing can't rember it was on a trade for a Kansas deer hunt but good rough dogs tho
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rdjustham
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2013, 05:52:46 pm » |
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Kevin, the guy you were talking too, was he in Fl? Shoot me a PM with who it was.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 06:30:17 pm » |
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I still can't figure out how you can put a price on a finished dog. If I spend all that time to make sure that dog works how I want it, I depend on that dog to make my living and that dog knows it can depend on me to do my part, then that is priceless in my book. Nobody would want to buy my finished dogs anyways, they would probably bite their arse and find their way back home.
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KevinN
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2013, 06:33:19 pm » |
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Sometimes it's just a matter of space. You need room for one reason or another.
Personally.... Don't know if I'll ever be in THAT position, too many good dogs, lol. But it happens.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2013, 06:57:47 pm » |
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Sometimes it's just a matter of space. You need room for one reason or another.
Personally.... Don't know if I'll ever be in THAT position, too many good dogs, lol. But it happens.
I out of space now got two together and it's getting old quick. One good dog a young one doing ok, one that pisses me off and two pups. The young dog and the piss me off dog could be for sale but then I'd kick myself so they will stay. Just gotta build one more pen. Lol |
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Kid7
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2013, 07:06:27 pm » |
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I wouldn't sell my best dog for 2,500. Although I know she's dang sure not worth that. And nothing close to the best out there. But she's worth more than that to me and does wat I want her to do.... I'm not from florida but I'm sure it's the sane anywhere. Just depends who your talking to
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