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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 07:37:57 am »

Its called responsibility!! I bay and shoot at least 3 usually 4 days a week... Day and night. I have never run into a situation where I would just leave my dog in the woods. Ever. $hit happens all the time, but if $hit happens I'll be waist deep in it right there with them dogs. I put em there and I'll take em out. Not everyone looks at their dogs like that and I get that.

To the original post, just be patient when your shooting over a dog. I'll sit at the bay and watch them dogs for hell 10 minutes if I have to. Don't rush the shot. Be quite and sneak in. You'd be amazed how close you can get to them hogs when their attention is on that dog and not you!!!
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 07:51:45 am »

He who is perfect cast the stones...
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 07:53:30 am »

I ain't no weatherman, but one thing That i can predict each year is that once it starts to turn cold and deer season starts, this forum floods with know-it-alls, cry babies, dipchits, and a$$holes....

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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2013, 08:04:18 am »

The one thing I ain't and never claimed to be is perfect!!! Hell I'm about as far from it as you can get. I will say this, I will never/have never left a dog in the woods over night baying a hog, unless I am going to get more catch dogs or bullets. If a dog is baying a hog I'll break my back to get to him, a lot of people won't. That's fine. Seems this fella had a change in heart half way through the night and got his dog back, I believe that's right thing to do.
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2013, 08:04:26 am »

Glad you got your dog back
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2013, 08:19:24 am »

I ain't no weatherman, but one thing That i can predict each year is that once it starts to turn cold and deer season starts, this forum floods with know-it-alls, cry babies, dipchits, and a$$holes....

 Cheesy


t.wilbanks for President in '16???  Thats great because it is true. 
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2013, 08:31:37 am »

Wilbanks for president?  Huh? Grin politicians talk a lot but don't say anything... much less tell the truth...  Grin he's got my vote...
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 08:49:02 am »

Y'all don't want me as President... I'll make hog hunting of any kind illegal except for me and my buddies... Y'all can keep your healthcare plans though..  laugh
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2013, 08:58:24 am »

I ain't no weatherman, but one thing That i can predict each year is that once it starts to turn cold and deer season starts, this forum floods with know-it-alls, cry babies, dipchits, and a$$holes....

 Cheesy

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     Glad you got your dog back.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2013, 09:15:59 am »

I ain't no weatherman, but one thing That i can predict each year is that once it starts to turn cold and deer season starts, this forum floods with know-it-alls, cry babies, dipchits, and a$$holes....

 Cheesy

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     Glad you got your dog back.

Yep and you fit in more than one of those catagories Mike... Along with " a$$ chapper"  Cheesy
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2013, 10:06:40 am »

Sounds to me like this gentleman is learning a new terrain, and is in an new area like he mentioned (therefore couldn't reach out to anyone for help right away). I must say, when shat happens, and it's time to assess the situation, it sounds like it was pretty imperative to get back to his truck and get home, or he would have been stranded out there as well, and who knows what could have happened. His dog would have been REAL shat outta luck if his owner died of hypothermia out there. Like others mention, it's ALWAYS easy to say coulda shoulda woulda when you weren't personally there in that specific situation at that very moment, knowing and feeling all of the factors. I'm willing to bet that next time he goes out, he'll have a best some extra ammo on him, as well as be even better prepared for the weather. To make the bold statement that this man must not care for his dogs is pretty extreme. From what I do know of this guy, he takes great pride in his dogs and does take good care of them. I'd love to hear now how many folks out there have never been caught in a sticky situation! 
ANY way, hope you got your dog back, and he's warming up by a heater now. Sounds like he's got a lot of heart!
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2013, 10:52:05 am »

Sounds to me like this gentleman is learning a new terrain, and is in an new area like he mentioned (therefore couldn't reach out to anyone for help right away). I must say, when shat happens, and it's time to assess the situation, it sounds like it was pretty imperative to get back to his truck and get home, or he would have been stranded out there as well, and who knows what could have happened. His dog would have been REAL shat outta luck if his owner died of hypothermia out there. Like others mention, it's ALWAYS easy to say coulda shoulda woulda when you weren't personally there in that specific situation at that very moment, knowing and feeling all of the factors. I'm willing to bet that next time he goes out, he'll have a best some extra ammo on him, as well as be even better prepared for the weather. To make the bold statement that this man must not care for his dogs is pretty extreme. From what I do know of this guy, he takes great pride in his dogs and does take good care of them. I'd love to hear now how many folks out there have never been caught in a sticky situation! 
ANY way, hope you got your dog back, and he's warming up by a heater now. Sounds like he's got a lot of heart!

100% agree with what u said. It dont do that dog no good if jagd woulda died from hypothermia, if that would hav happened, it wouldnt matter about the hog or dog. Sounds like what hookers refer to blackhawk n apache mech as, "fair weather mech", must b fair weather hunters thats nvr been caught with their pants down in a suprising adverse weather condition. Its not weather science, its weather theroy, bc the weather can change in mimutes, without notice or for warning.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2013, 12:37:19 pm »

I've left one dog over night. I was out of state hunting and about two hours before dark 2 dogs got hung up I'n the rock bluffs and couldn't figure out how to get down. The guys I was hunting with said it was no way to get in there before dark unless I rented a helicopter and it was to dangerous to be in there after dark climbing around. The next morn before daylight I started waking to them and got them. But that's the only time I've ever left one and I hope I never have to again good luck getting your dog back
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2013, 04:25:56 pm »

the dog is fine and would have been fine regardless. he had a  dry warm place to go. I didn't have a change of heart i went back as planned when i could do it somewhat safely. we went and bayed the hog this morning and killed it just me and him again. he was ready to keep hunting afterward. if you went in between him and these hogs you would have been holding your guts in on the walk out. I was just pretty proud of a twelve hour bay myself. I'de prefer not to have one that long but he's a making a dog for sure.
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2013, 05:14:48 pm »

Sounds like a dog to be proud of & glad u got him back.
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2013, 05:32:52 pm »

Glad u got him back and got the hog. Fine dog to stay bayed that long.

Having been in situations with much more at stake than a dogs life and being told I woulda done this or I woulda done that. I know when u are the one there looking at the situation u are the only one that can say what u would or wouldn't do. It's real easy when ur not there. Everybody is a hero.

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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2013, 05:46:39 pm »

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2013, 07:01:44 pm »

  Glad it ended well. Was it a good hog ?
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2013, 07:45:11 pm »

All these guys say they would never leave a dog in the woods.  hmmmm

I had to leave a couple of them, before tracking equipment and garmins.  I been out there plenty of nights when I couldn't afford tracking systems.  Look, listen, ride.  Look, listen, ride.  Stay out all dang night and almost burn a tank of fuel, hooping and yelling trying to find dogs.  Yep I left them and left my shirt.  Came back and got them the next day.  You cant always be prepared for everything.

The man said clearly that he was cold and he was in danger being in a 2 wheeled drive.  He protected himself so he would be alive the next day to find a dog.  He didn't quit the dog.  I cant say that Im walking up to a 300 lb hog and grabbing my dog.  Excuse me mr hog, I'll grab my dog and be on the way.  see ya later. 

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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2013, 04:32:12 am »

Yea 71409 I get you but you are talking about but this is a completely different scenario. This dog was bayed, you didn't know where yours was. You're right, but it's not hard to prepare for weather. Hell my phone had a preprogrammed app on it that shows me the weather hourly. Not hard either to pack more than 4 bullets and definitely not difficult to understand that you take a pup like this into the woods you better have a plan B if you're going to hunt him alone. No human life is worth a dog, if the man was going to freeze that's one thing but to go home and write a story on the computer wondering if you're dog is ok seems a bit gutless to me. No one has to like my opinion and I'm not running anyone down.

I see a lot of people posting on here throughout the day, from in the field, etc but don't ever see a lot of pics of their "hunts or harvests". I, like you and many others, know people who catch many hogs and never even turn a computer on. I probably post about half of what I catch cause the kids like seeing it. Just cause you don't post a pic doesn't mean you don't hunt, BUT as much as some folks are on here and run their mouths you'd think you'd see something ever so often.  Luckily, this story came with a good ending and a lesson learned.
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