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« on: January 13, 2014, 06:49:31 pm » |
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I have an older cur dog bout 5 years old who is definitely the head dog in my pack, well I recently just got a new dog. Another male about 3 years old. The new dog won't growl at him but he won't take an ass whooping either.. My question is.. Do I let them squabble it out and let him place dominance or should I continue too give him the boot. Because the older male is not aggressive towards other males. So only thing I can see is him trying to establish dominance. My question is what's best way to go about this, I didn't know if any of y'all older dogs men have encountered a problem like this before.
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Reuben
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 07:00:41 pm » |
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You can let them establish dominance or you can put a collar on each and let them out in the yard and when they bow up to each other light them both up about 3 good zaps each...on max...you want to make a statement...you are the top dog and there is no pecking order...at least that is the goal at my house...
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Bowhunter1994
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 08:51:33 pm » |
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Let me know. Good topic
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LTcaughthog
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2014, 09:25:34 pm » |
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My dogs know who boss is. But there pack dogs regardless and your gonna have an alpha male or female regardless.. Or a lead dog.. Whatever you wanna call it. So with the pecking order ya I'm on top but there's still dogs that have there place in the pack. Example. A help dog isn't gonna be your alpha dog. So once again I'm asking do I let him establish his dominance or what. Shock collar is next if it continues. That's for sure. Just wanted some opinions.
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justincorbell
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 10:02:08 pm » |
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You can let them establish dominance or you can put a collar on each and let them out in the yard and when they bow up to each other light them both up about 3 good zaps each...on max...you want to make a statement...you are the top dog and there is no pecking order...at least that is the goal at my house...
I agree with Reuben as far as the shock collar method goes, im not talkin any noise at all but personally if i let my curr dogs hash it out I would have 2 curr dogs on the disabled list or worse. Ive seen my share of dog squabbles over the years and the currs seem to be the worst. A rank rough curr dog is a bad sob! |
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 10:27:28 pm » |
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My dogs know who boss is. But there pack dogs regardless and your gonna have an alpha male or female regardless.. Or a lead dog.. Whatever you wanna call it. So with the pecking order ya I'm on top but there's still dogs that have there place in the pack. Example. A help dog isn't gonna be your alpha dog. So once again I'm asking do I let him establish his dominance or what. Shock collar is next if it continues. That's for sure. Just wanted some opinions.
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chads7376
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 11:37:55 pm » |
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You can let them establish dominance or you can put a collar on each and let them out in the yard and when they bow up to each other light them both up about 3 good zaps each...on max...you want to make a statement...you are the top dog and there is no pecking order...at least that is the goal at my house...
I agree with Reuben as far as the shock collar method goes, im not talkin any noise at all but personally if i let my curr dogs hash it out I would have 2 curr dogs on the disabled list or worse. Ive seen my share of dog squabbles over the years and the currs seem to be the worst. A rank rough curr dog is a bad sob! X2 A cattle prod works wonders if they get into it and don't have collars on |
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 12:47:15 am » |
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You can let them establish dominance or you can put a collar on each and let them out in the yard and when they bow up to each other light them both up about 3 good zaps each...on max...you want to make a statement...you are the top dog and there is no pecking order...at least that is the goal at my house...
I agree with Reuben as far as the shock collar method goes, im not talkin any noise at all but personally if i let my curr dogs hash it out I would have 2 curr dogs on the disabled list or worse. Ive seen my share of dog squabbles over the years and the currs seem to be the worst. A rank rough curr dog is a bad sob! X2 A cattle prod works wonders if they get into it and don't have collars on not only do i agree, but i believe the cattle prod is better than a shock collar, you remove all doubt that you are the bad som buck on the yard when the dog feels the heat AND sees the light.  |
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rdjustham
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 10:43:19 am » |
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squabbles over dominance and dog fights are different. If they are squabbling ill let it go for a minute or two, because like you said there is going to be a pecking order with me at the top. On my yard I have a dominant female and a dominant male, both of which put young/new dogs in their perspective places, however I wont tolerate a dog fight, and if a dominance thing turns into a fight me and what ever I have handy get involved.
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 10:54:12 am » |
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The new dog has to learn who is the leader of the pack. I agree with Reuben but the human is the pack leader but I have had to put collars on and given each one a touch when a aggression arises. That has worked for me many times.
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woody13
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 03:52:42 pm » |
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we had a lemon walker and a tri color walker that would tie up in a heart beat. they were both the same age and both were the best dogs we had. if they were in the woods there were no fights, but we couldn't put them in the same pen or let em out in the yard without keeping a close eye on them. we tried everything from collars to cattle prods, and even the boot. the weird thing was they were both raised as pups together and they even fought at 8 weeks old. but they wouldn't fight any other dog, just each other. the only way we could avoid the fights is to keep em kenneled separately. at 10 years old the lemon walker passed away to a snake bite, but that was the end of the fights. sorry to kinda hijack the post, but this was my experience on this subject..i hope you find a fix to it
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LAhogger84
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 09:27:00 pm » |
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I wouldn't let them fight cus once they get fighting n their system it's almost always a losing battle.
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wildchild
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2014, 11:07:51 pm » |
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Let them fight it out but just be there if it goes to far then whoop some ass that's how i do things at my house and i have all my males in one pen and gyps in one pen and i dnt have a fight one no matter if its feed time or huntings
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jimco
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2014, 05:44:06 am » |
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Let them fight it out but just be there if it goes to far then whoop some ass that's how i do things at my house and i have all my males in one pen and gyps in one pen and i dnt have a fight one no matter if its feed time or huntings
Respectfully disagree. I do not let them fight it out. Boot to a$$, cable lead across the back, etc. NO fighting, bowing up, or any hint of aggression allowed. There is no pecking order. I'm top dog and that's it. |
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justincorbell
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014, 06:47:11 am » |
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Let them fight it out but just be there if it goes to far then whoop some ass that's how i do things at my house and i have all my males in one pen and gyps in one pen and i dont have a fight one no matter if its feed time or huntings
not to be rude brother but you totally contradicted yourself. |
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MrsLouisianaHogDog
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2014, 11:11:29 am » |
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You either tolerate the BS or you don't. Letting the dogs 'fight it out' to a point, and THEN whippin their arses for it, would do nothing but confuse a dog as to what your rules/boundaries are. Keep it simple. If you don't want fighting, stop it either before it happens by watching and knowing your dogs' body language, or shut it down RIGHT when it starts, and be consistent.
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wildchild
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2014, 11:27:28 am » |
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Yall can say what yall want about the way i hand my dogs but i know what works around my house i have tried boot to ass and all that happens is they fight when your asleep oor when your not there i have tried the shock collar and all they learn is when the collar on no fighting they way i do it works cuz i watch and see who starts the fight and who wins the fight if the same dog startsit and wins i whoop is butt so he know I'm top dog and no amount of fights will change that i only have to do this about twice and i dnt have a dog fight even when fhe females are in heat and there pen is right be side there's
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