MrsLouisianaHogDog
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2014, 01:02:53 pm » |
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I think in general, some folks should let their hackles down in some of these discussions, lol.
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~Krystale of the Southern Comfort Combine~ www.southerncomfortcombine.webs.com*Proud member of the Mississippi Hunting Dog Association* ADBA Safe Dog Program Evaluator and Trainer
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Reuben
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2014, 01:09:05 pm » |
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I think in general, some folks should let their hackles down in some of these discussions, lol.
I agree...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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rdjustham
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2014, 01:11:25 pm » |
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now FreeMuch better pic. He doesn't look as fat and bulky in the chest in this pic. Always liked black and tans, im hopin in my next litter ill get one and if im lucky a natural bob tail.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2014, 03:19:46 pm » |
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RD...that's a fine looking hog dog...that is the look I envision when I think about Florida Cur...buddy of mine had one looked just about like that except he was a little darker red...not much though...I thought enough of that dog to breed him to one of my females back then...
Thanks reuben. Ive heard of different ranches adding this or that to the dogs they had as the times changed. The dogs around now are mostly short ranged hot nosed rough dogs, but from my understanding way back when they were longer range dogs but still as rough. Like I said in my original post these dogs come in all colors. from talking to people smarter than me, ive been told in the 80s is when the dogs started getting "beefier" almost as if more bulldog was being bred in. to show the difference, this dog I got from a fella that worked the lightsey ranch and got his original dogs from them and continued to breed them himself. smaller in stature than Jack, little darker yellow, had balck eyeliner, but a little thicker than jack. This one I got from a GOOD friend when he decided to switch to all males. I don't recall which ranch she came off of, but she was taller than both the others and weighed in at about 70-75 pounds in running shape. She was all business, the older she got the less she caught on her own though. Just shows the inconsistency of the quote un quote breed so to speak.
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jimco
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2014, 03:30:17 pm » |
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RD, that was also a very good explanation of what your opinion of what a Fla. Cur is. I truly believe you are spot on about them being bred/developed to find rank feral cattle all day long by themselves in the hot humid Fla. swampy terrain and if one has dogs that are bred true to the standards / qualities that those original curs were, and if these current dogs possess these same qualities, then I think it's safe to say one owns a true Fla. TYPE cur.
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"Pedigree indicates what the animal should be. Conformation indicates what the animal appears to be. But PERFORMANCE indicates what the animal actually is."
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2014, 05:06:49 pm » |
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RD, very well put. Most people round here just call 'em cur dogs. Lets face it, most all breeds got their names and or lines for the pure sake of making money. There was a day when they were just dogs...curs, hounds, bulldogs, sheppards...hog dogs, deer dogs, coon dogs, cow dogs (head dogs & heelers) As people started breeding their best to their best, different breeds and even different lines inside of the breeds started changing. Then John Doe had good dogs and people started wanting them, thus began the JD dogs. Different regions called for a different taste in a working dog. IMO thats why all our curs are similar, yet very different.
Hell, I am only 30, and its hard to ever see (let alone find) a dog that I remember as a child. Be it a cur or bulldog, and by appearance and ability.
I think we would all love to turn back the clock to see what went into some of these dogs, but sadly most come from a time sorrowfully forgotten.
And for the original poster, for the most part, the dogs coined "fl curs" are as RD stated. Hotter nosed, rough, one or two out dogs
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Jimt3
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2014, 05:23:45 pm » |
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RD...that's a fine looking hog dog...
I agree! I'd feed a couple of em!
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rdjustham
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2014, 07:11:17 pm » |
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I probably should have mentioned one last thing. The dogs we have and had in years past in Fl varied very very greatly by region of the state you were in. The dogs I have were cow bred meaning they were bred to work cows ALL day long in the heat. Probably why they are lean and leggy. From my understanding from a boy I hunt with down here they curs in the panhandle (specifically Tallahassee where he went to school and lived for 9 years) are more hound like.
So it also depends on where you are in the state as to what the dogs look like. Noah said it best a couple years ago during another of these threads that my dogs "have that South Florida look to them".
Just my opinion for what its worth.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2014, 07:25:10 pm » |
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Hell, I am only 30, and its hard to ever see (let alone find) a dog that I remember as a child. Be it a cur or bulldog, and by appearance and ability.
I gotta get with my mom and dad, I know one of them has a picture of me and an old black and tan bobtailed pup that came of Lykes ranch when my dad used to hunt with the lykes boys. That gyp followed me everywhere and would hunt for anything a boy wearin short pants toting a cap gun could hunt for. Mom and dad never worried bout me runnin the woods if she was with me, damned rattlesnake took her at about 2.
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wildchild
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2014, 07:26:16 pm » |
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Rd thanks for the information on this breed i have heard enough to buy a puppy from the gentleman in ol miss i will post pics of my pup when i get him here
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TheRednose
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2014, 11:04:15 pm » |
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Dang Junior they are sure looking good! I really like the two colored ones. Look forward to seeing their progression.
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JUNIOR SEFFERN
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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2014, 11:11:40 pm » |
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Thanks bud, they should be rock'n and roll'n here shortly
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UNDERDOG
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2014, 11:26:53 pm » |
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Junior, what are you feeding them pups? They seem to have weak pasterns.
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TexasHogDogs
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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2014, 11:28:08 pm » |
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Fine looking pups !
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The older I get the less Stupidity I can stand !
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TexasHogDogs
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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2014, 11:30:40 pm » |
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rdjustham, you got some fine looking dogs there man.
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The older I get the less Stupidity I can stand !
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JUNIOR SEFFERN
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2014, 11:38:50 pm » |
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Underdog they are free fed on diamond puppy food? U talking about them looking like they been crying? I'm not sure what a pastern is...
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UNDERDOG
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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2014, 12:17:51 am » |
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No. The wrist joints look weak, could be the pics
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TheRednose
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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2014, 12:21:02 am » |
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Jimmy so you the million dollar question, did you breed whitey to cracker???
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