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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2014, 12:25:04 am » |
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I think it was just the way the pictures were taken, pups were on a dog box same height as my head so I was kinda taken the pics at an upward angle
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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2014, 12:26:35 am » |
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Have seen it in several litters of ours years ago.
Usually seen in pups raised on concrete or fed high protein amounts that softens or breaks down the elasticity in the joint or cartilage.
Ours were combo of both. Didn't give them a lick.of problems until it carried over. Unfortunately we had to cull the entire litter and cease those particular dogs from the brood pen.
Hope its just the picture.
Great lookin lil pups I must say.
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JUNIOR SEFFERN
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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2014, 12:45:49 am » |
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I have never ran into that problem? My dogs stay in concrete pens and eat high protein feed, I bred the sire to these pups to a different gyp and those pups turned out ok and I have bred the dam to a different male and those pups turned out ok. They don't act like they have any problems running around or walking. They are out of the pen almost all day every day and haven't seen any issues to this point so hopefully it's nothing. Both parents are damn good dogs and I'd hate to have to cull them for issues like that.
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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2014, 12:56:21 am » |
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rdjustham, you got some fine looking dogs there man.
Thanks brother, that old gyp was the best dog ive ever hunted behind. Lost her to a neighbors poison. Jack is a real real close second and that lightsey dog, hows the sayin go, don't bite the hand that feeds you? |
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« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2014, 08:21:36 am » |
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Yeah I lost the fight RedNose . Only done it one time tho so maybe four are five.
Yeah on those pups up there Jr. Lot of times you can feed to high of protein and to much food and that's what will happen the pups bones are growing faster than some things can keep up with and it will cause their ankle joints and on down to their feet to look funny. Most the time it will straighten itself out over a little time. I have seen it before . If that's not it you could have a genetic type problem starting up but I doubt it. Think its just the bones growing to fast at a young young age.
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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2014, 09:25:29 am » |
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I've had a few bulldog pups that I had issues with also. My barrels and platforms are quite elevated in my kennels. I finally figured out the pups jumping up and down was causing some problems. Built some ramps for the puppy pens and haven't had a problem since. First time it came up I thought it was rickets.
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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2014, 12:38:40 pm » |
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Hey junior those are some might fine looking pups some people just look at things they don't have or know about with one eye especially on the Internet lol
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2014, 12:58:02 pm » |
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Comments were all positive brotha. Just a question that several of us saw and hoped that it was not what have experienced in our own kennels. Dont believe it can be due to a blind ignorant jab....or we would not have been able to be specific about a realistic issue. Know this internet is sometimes hard to read into a specific comment and have the actual intent communicated properly ....but assure you there was no malice in anyones comments about the pups. As previously posted....great looking pups.  |
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2014, 01:39:35 pm » |
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THANKS GUYS AND NO OFFENSE TAKEN... I HAVE NEVER HAD THAT ISSUE WITH ANY OTHE THE DOGS I HAVE OR PUPS I HAVE RAISED BUT THAKS FOR THE INFO. I BELIEVE THEY ARE JUST KINDA WIERD LOOKING RIGHT NOW CAUSE THEY ARE FREE FED PUPS. THEY EAT A 50LB SACK OF FEED JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEK. SO THEY ARE BIG BODDIED LITTLE LEGGED BIG FOOTED PUPS. THEY WILL BE BIGGER DOGS AS MOST OF THE OTHER PUPS HAVE ALL TURNED OUT TO BE 45-50LBS OR BIGGER. THEY ARE ONLY 9 WEEKS OLD AND STILL GOT A LOT OF GROWING TO DO BUT THEY WILL LOOK NORMAL I GUESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2014, 04:05:49 pm » |
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some people just look at things they don't have or know about with one eye especially on the Internet lol
Judge...wrong, I meant no malice at all,genuine concern...period. The pups are jacked up, look hard at the yella and the white one and again no offence or malice to junior and I sure hope they grow out of it. If they were mine I would be real concerned, not that they are not good looking pups as they are but the structure is jacked up on them. Been fooling with dogs too long to not know what I'm talking aboput and I usually won't say anything if I am not sure. Junior, I hope they straighten up for you. Good luck with them. |
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2014, 05:42:32 pm » |
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I hear ya bro just thought a comment like that would be on a pm. I know people fire off what ever they want on here and then get mad if some one don't agree that's all I meant and I have seen pups with duck feet and then arch up as they got older but no biggie
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2014, 05:46:18 pm » |
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IM NO DOG DOCTOR SO I HAVE NO CLUE.... ALL I CAN SAY IS WHAT I STATED BEFORE, ALSO IT MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THEY WERTE A LITTLE SCARED BEING ALMOST 6 FEET IN THE AIR ON THE TOP OF A DOG BOX WHICH THEY HAD NEVER BEEN ON BEFORE NOR THAT HIGH BEFORE. AGAIN IM NO DR BUT I DO KNOW ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF MY DOGS AND KEEP THEM OUT OF THE VETS POCKET/OFFICE.
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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2014, 05:55:48 pm » |
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I don't think you have anything to wory bout jmo
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2014, 08:43:19 pm » |
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some people just look at things they don't have or know about with one eye especially on the Internet lol
Judge...wrong, I meant no malice at all,genuine concern...period. The pups are jacked up, look hard at the yella and the white one and again no offence or malice to junior and I sure hope they grow out of it. If they were mine I would be real concerned, not that they are not good looking pups as they are but the structure is jacked up on them. Been fooling with dogs too long to not know what I'm talking aboput and I usually won't say anything if I am not sure. Junior, I hope they straighten up for you. Good luck with them. x2 on what Bryant said (Underdog)...I have had it happen a few times with my pups as well...we do all that is right and then they buckle at the wrists as young pups...they will/should straighten out but the vet said it was the high protein high fat that usually causes this, that was his thoughts if I remember correctly...slightly lower protein like 23-24 percent and 10-12 percent fat to keep them from growing too fast and keep their weight down a little...and concrete or wooden floors do not help from what I remember...sometimes it can be heredity because I had a grown dog with splayed feet but when more 2 or more pups have it in the litter it more than likely is not hereditary which is a good thing... |
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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2014, 09:44:24 pm » |
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Yeah I lost the fight RedNose . Only done it one time tho so maybe four are five.
Thats great to hear, gives me time to start making room lol jk That is a great breeding though. |
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« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2014, 10:51:46 am » |
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 Wrong picture the first time Anyone know how these pups with the weak pasterns turn out? just curious |
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Lacy man
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2014, 12:15:10 pm » |
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some people just look at things they don't have or know about with one eye especially on the Internet lol
Judge...wrong, I meant no malice at all,genuine concern...period. The pups are jacked up, look hard at the yella and the white one and again no offence or malice to junior and I sure hope they grow out of it. If they were mine I would be real concerned, not that they are not good looking pups as they are but the structure is jacked up on them. Been fooling with dogs too long to not know what I'm talking aboput and I usually won't say anything if I am not sure. Junior, I hope they straighten up for you. Good luck with them. x2 on what Bryant said (Underdog)...I have had it happen a few times with my pups as well...we do all that is right and then they buckle at the wrists as young pups...they will/should straighten out but the vet said it was the high protein high fat that usually causes this, that was his thoughts if I remember correctly...slightly lower protein like 23-24 percent and 10-12 percent fat to keep them from growing too fast and keep their weight down a little...and concrete or wooden floors do not help from what I remember...sometimes it can be heredity because I had a grown dog with splayed feet but when more 2 or more pups have it in the litter it more than likely is not hereditary which is a good thing... Just curious but I typically haven't had any issues with the few litters I be raised and fed 24/20 seems to be ok? I ve also raised pups off "puppy" good that was 30% protein 29 fat still no issues? So, I was wondering if not only the concrete kennels but also genetics may be playin a roll in this situation? |
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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2014, 12:15:58 pm » |
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Gosh dang my fingers are fat. I mean 30/20
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2014, 07:33:23 pm » |
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I used to live in Florida and the Florida Curs I saw looked like little American Bulldogs about small pitbull size. Mostly white with some tan trim. They made fine catch dogs. I never owned one but I saw them in action. They did not look cur like at all. I would have sworn they were pure bulldog. The owner said they went back to real old cracker cowboy lines. Not sure if he was spinning tales or not. Everyone has a strain of bulldog that goes back to his uncle buck who swore he kept them pure, never bred pit into them, blah, blah, blah.
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