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« on: February 01, 2014, 11:59:49 pm » |
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I've got a 2.5 yr old BMC male that I have hardly never had a problem with. He's been in one scrap before and after a boot to the rear was fine the rest of the hunt. And he's the best mannered dog I've ever owned around the house, a total baby.
That was until today. We'd been hunting two hours or so and stopped to take a break, and he started some stuff with another dog and they went at it good. Got them broke up and put him on a lead for a while. Seemed like he calmed down so I cut him back off the lead and he went straight back to that dog and started it up again. He got a "talkin to" like he's never had before, and after that, he was hell bent on fighting any dog that come close to him. So much so that he stayed in the box by himself for the rest of the hunt.
I've got no room for a dog like that, but he's a darn good dog and this is the first time he has ever acted that way. And these were dogs that he has hunted with several times before, and there was only one female in the group, a 10 mo old pup so I don't think she was the problem. Both the guys I was hunting with along with me couldn't believe how he was acting today based on seeing him before. I'm totally stumped and embarrassed about his actions today, just wondering what the rest of y'all had to say about it.
Anyone got any thoughts on this? Can a dog just have a bad day? Since I've owned this dog I've always said he'll never leave my yard, but after today he's only got one more chance and if he pulls this crap again he won't be hanging around no more.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2014, 12:55:11 am » |
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I honestly think with dogs that there's just those other dogs that they can't stand. Just like when you can't stand someone no matter how nice or whatever they just rub u the wrong way lol idk I gotta male who doesn't fight at all but there's this one dog my cousin has that no matter what there gonna fight they just don't like each other so maybe it's just that dog. Just my experience & thoughts. Good luck. Hope he works out.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2014, 08:14:30 am » |
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Ive got two that have always hated each other with a passion. One is my lead dog the other is my sons pet. My sons dog is a house dog and doesn't get to go in the back yard where the working dogs live. Im not raising froo froo lap dogs, both of these dogs have a high prey drive and were bred/trained for a job. However since my sons dog is more valuable to me as my sons pet/protector he doesn't hunt, and neither of these dogs has ever had a problem with any other dog.
If he is what you want keep him separate, if he wants to fight with every other dog in the world, well.....
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2014, 08:25:40 am » |
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I suggest gettin ur hands on a hotshot.....a boot hurts but electricity will put put the fear of God in him, when he jumps on another dog light his world up, hopefully it wont take long and he will get his mind right.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 08:30:28 am » |
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Man you never know with dogs some time maybe that gyp was to sexy for him and he couldn't take it so had to show out. I have been on wierd hunts before where dogs do strange stuff they normally don't do. I would do anything crazy just watch him and just run him with dogs he is use to and take it from there
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 09:52:35 am » |
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Hey you never know....that 10mth old female pup very well MAY be getting ready to come into heat, where y'all can't see it, but he can smell it. I'd give him another shot in an all male pack again and see what happens.....
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Bar R Ranch
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 03:57:07 pm » |
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Brandon havent you bred that dog several times?
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 05:17:39 pm » |
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Hey you never know....that 10mth old female pup very well MAY be getting ready to come into heat, where y'all can't see it, but he can smell it. I'd give him another shot in an all male pack again and see what happens.....
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2014, 07:01:14 pm » |
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Got a male I had to keep a shock collar on for several hunts. He finally learned that if he came close to another male he was fixing to get lit up. Before you decide to cull him if you can't correct him try castrating him. I know it ruins him from breeding but if he is a good enough hog dog it's worth it. It will stop the fighting
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Reuben
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2014, 07:07:37 pm » |
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Got a male I had to keep a shock collar on for several hunts. He finally learned that if he came close to another male he was fixing to get lit up. Before you decide to cull him if you can't correct him try castrating him. I know it ruins him from breeding but if he is a good enough hog dog it's worth it. It will stop the fighting
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mod93dirt
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2014, 07:28:06 pm » |
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Brandon havent you bred that dog several times?
He's bred one time. Bred him to the same female Herb bred with. I kept a a male and female and William kept a male and female. Like I said I've never seen him act that before that's why I was so surprised at the way he was acting. Hes absolutely the best mannered dog I've ever owned other than yesterday. Right now I'm just chalking it up to he had a bad day. I'll try him again and if he pulls the same thing again I will have to evaluate what to do with him. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2014, 07:46:15 pm » |
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I thought he had been bred more than that. I have seen some dogs that when they breed several females a switch flips and they want to figh every male around. Maybe he just had a bad day. I bet he settles down.
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Reuben
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2014, 07:54:31 pm » |
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Brandon havent you bred that dog several times?
He's bred one time. Bred him to the same female Herb bred with. I kept a a male and female and William kept a male and female. Like I said I've never seen him act that before that's why I was so surprised at the way he was acting. Hes absolutely the best mannered dog I've ever owned other than yesterday. Right now I'm just chalking it up to he had a bad day. I'll try him again and if he pulls the same thing again I will have to evaluate what to do with him. this dog might need some correction that will make a statement to him...but he is not a cull... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2014, 11:19:19 pm » |
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this dog might need some correction that will make a statement to him...but he is not a cull...
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Mr Reuben, for the sake of knowledge, what type of correction would you suggest for this? Since I've had this particular dog it has usually only taken no more than a stern raised voice to get him to comply. Only once or twice before have I ever had to get physical with this dog. On the aforementioned hunt, he got way more of a,"correction" from me than he has ever got before. I've only been working hunting dogs for 4 yrs, but handled schutzhund dogs many years before them. I was always told it was a no no to shock a dog agressive dog for fear of making it worse. But getting physical with him had no effect either. After the second fight he was growling even when there were no other dogs close to him. And if a dog got close it was on and it seemed he was pissed off at the world.
As mentioned before he's NEVER acted this way before. And I hope he never acts this way again. But I am open to all suggestions on how to deal with him should this situation arise again.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2014, 04:43:59 am » |
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if you use a cattle prod and he turns on you and you back down then he has won...but if you use a shocking collar set it on high...and keep pushing the button until he cowers down...but only when caught in the act...I would repeat any time he acts up...that's about how I would do it if he were my dog...seems like three taps in succession does the trick for my dogs, usually happens when a female is in heat...
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2014, 07:10:45 am » |
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Bring him to my house, iv got a couple dogs that will fix his aggression problem. They will flip him on his back and pin him in seconds. Iv fixed a couple dogs like this, 2 days of getting beat down by a bigger dog does alot for them. They wont hurt him, just teach him a lesson
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thegroundskeeper
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2014, 07:49:50 am » |
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if you use a cattle prod and he turns on you and you back down then he has won...but if you use a shocking collar set it on high...and keep pushing the button until he cowers down...but only when caught in the act...I would repeat any time he acts up...that's about how I would do it if he were my dog...seems like three taps in succession does the trick for my dogs, usually happens when a female is in heat...
That is exactly what I do with mine and it has stopped mine. He has to understand who is in control. He know by my voice and reaction that I control the collar. |
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 12:11:34 pm » |
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if you use a cattle prod and he turns on you and you back down then he has won...but if you use a shocking collar set it on high...and keep pushing the button until he cowers down...but only when caught in the act...I would repeat any time he acts up...that's about how I would do it if he were my dog...seems like three taps in succession does the trick for my dogs, usually happens when a female is in heat...
i've used both before with good results BUT the one thing you need to pay very close attention to with a shock collar is when and how you go about shocking him, i have seen with my own eyes 2 dogs in the woods posture up to one another about to get into it and the the fella that owned them shocked one which resulted in that dog attacking the other, sometimes a shock collar will turn em inside out and make em forget what they were doing but I have also seen it push them over the edge and pile on another dog. Just pay close attention to their attitude/posture and you will be fine. |
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Reuben
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 12:26:02 pm » |
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it is best if you have a collar on both...if you use it make a statement...
if in your yard and you collar the dominant dog and not the other then the lesser dog will sometimes get cocky...so it is best to get on both in that scenario...they need to understand that agression towards other dogs is not tolerated...that's about how I see it...
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