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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 07:39:13 pm » |
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BOHICA, bend over, here it comes again. Just another raping of the avg hunter n american. Another bs law that will get the unfortunate bs law enforcer (probably not the person, but the law is what im refering to as bs) injured by those who wont conform to socialist/communist gov laws
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 07:39:16 pm » |
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Yea that is a bunch of BS. Go after animal owners that don't contain their animals. Neither Lee nor Collier County is not doing much about sterilization of wild hogs. These hogs are mass producing and causing more problems than dogs and cats. All this to hope people bring animals in at night...that is a bunch of #2.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 07:40:02 pm » |
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Are you kidding me with this !!!!!! That's unreal man . I remember when we thought they wouldn't be able to outlaw the fox pens and we see how that turned out.
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bob
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 08:04:20 pm » |
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That is crazy , that's a bad deal for dog owners in Florida, I hope it doesn't go threw
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 08:09:33 pm » |
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I was just about to post this! This is some serious bulls&!t. I'm over all these damn rules when my hunting dogs are treated better then most peoples "pets". My dogs get top notch food, they get plenty of running around time they get lots of loving. It's going to be a cold day in hell when acc comes onto my property and tells me I can't kennel my dogs
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 08:50:00 pm » |
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That's a accident waiting to happen there trying to pass that type of law.
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Life is what you make of it!!! Always stay positive
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KevinN
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 08:25:24 am » |
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Well....except for the sterilization crap....honestly..... I don't see a problem with kenneling dogs as opposed to tying them out. To me...it's just an all around better way to contain multiple dogs.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 08:34:46 am » |
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Kevin, I have owned a few that would be fine on a chain and fight a fence something crazy. They will tear teeth out wanting out. I just hate that some city dweller can decide the best way to confine a dog when it's the unconfined dog that is the dang problem. Besides most folks who chain a dog give them 3 times the area a kennel gives.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 09:02:05 am » |
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Well....except for the sterilization crap....honestly..... I don't see a problem with kenneling dogs as opposed to tying them out. To me...it's just an all around better way to contain multiple dogs.
I have to politely disagree. While there is no problem with kenneling a dog, it's still a personal choice of the dog owner. We should be able to choose how we want to confine our dogs, if done so in a proper manner. They shouldn't be able to dictate how, so long as the dog is provided adequate shelter, clean water, and fed daily. I've got dogs here that can not be contained properly in a kennel, yet they thrive on a well kept chain spot. They see idiots tying dogs to trees with wires and ropes, or using frigging logging chains, and that's what gives these people their bright ideas of banning "tethering" all together. Let me also ad.....I've NEVER had a dog break off a chain and cause damage in many years, except ONE time when it was a hardware malfunction/freak accident which was totally my own fault. We HAVE had dogs in kennels over the years hurt themselves trying to escape, busting teeth out like someone else mentioned, and getting "pen aggressive" in close quarters. We now only keep a couple dogs in welded kennels that are older and calm. Everyone else is on nice big appropriately sized chain spots. I have an issue with the law trying to tell me how I MUST contain my dogs. If I am keeping them in a humane manner, and contained, they should have no say in the situation. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 09:04:20 am » |
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Man! Bunch of BS!!! These yuppies need to get a life!
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 09:05:00 am » |
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Sterilization also would be mandatory for cats and dogs that aren’t registered with organizations such as the American Kennel Club, which only accepts purebred pups.
Really? Hmmm. This could be a business opportunity. Why not start "The American Crossbred Kennel Club" so that they would be technically registered?
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 09:08:02 am » |
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It's just a stepping stone to what's really coming. Everytime they pass a law and get away with it another one is right behind it.
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NathanDoss
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 09:27:59 am » |
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I'm a law abiding citizen, but crap like this I'd take a stand and whether it passed or didn't pass I'm going to keep doing what I see fit for my dogs.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 10:04:44 am » |
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I have to also disagree with kevin and agree with mrslouisiana. I don't own anything but bulldogs at this moment and bulldogs are much safer and happier on a "proper" chain setup.
Anybody who disagrees...answer this simple question for me>>> 10X10ft kennel = 100 sqft.>>>10ft.chain=314sqft. If you were kept outside, which would you rather live on?
I also think it's up to the owner to decide which they want to use but nobody should be able to tell me how to house my dogs as long as they're properly cared for.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 10:12:01 am » |
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And to add to my last post....who really has a 10X10 ft kennel for every single dog anyway? The majority are definitely under 100 sqft of living space for every dog. Anybody I know who properly chain their dogs have 10 ft at minimum. Just wanted to show that my example of 10X10 is giving kennel dogs the benefit of doubt but it's usually not that big. Not knocking nobody who has kennel dogs, just giving another benefit IMO of chain dogs that wasn't brought up above. The other points made are spot on also!
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 10:17:47 am » |
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I can see where they are coming from how many dogs you see chained in yard on side of road with no shelter and tangled up on something due to not properly being chained I chain dogs to but they have shelter and no obstruction to tangle on. But if they come to seize my dogs they better call in for back up first lol
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 10:22:41 am » |
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And I suppose if you were trying to stick as many dogs you could in a certain location then yes I agree with you about kennels. I could fit a whole bunch of 4X6ft kennels in my yard but IMO that doesn't give them a comfortable, safe environment to grow up in. And If I'm spending my time,effort and money raising these dogs I want to get the highest potential of their abilities out of them. I understand we own different breeds on this forum but I'm only speaking of housing bulldogs (apbt) as that's all my experience as been in. Also, don't take me the wrong way through a keyboard. This is only a discussion/debate on a comment that was made that I see a completely different side on.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 10:23:33 am » |
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Everyone talks tuff about how they better come prepared when they come to get your dogs but believe me they will. And if you choose to fight them they will get whatever reinforcements they need. It's too damn late to fight after they have the law and are enforcing it. It needs to be fought before they pass it.
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KevinN
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2014, 10:28:35 am » |
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I use to keep dogs on chains as well. I just switched to pens and that's my preference.
I have 2 pens that are 8X8 (64sq feet) - 4 that are 8X16 (128sq feet) and one that is 16X32 (about 480sq feet?). Anyway.....
I'm not arguing about anything and I don't care to....I'll just give my reasoning.
I've had dogs that were on chains....inside a "dog yard"....
1. Get bred by strays
2. Die from exposure because of a tumbleweed getting tangled in the chain/post while I was out of town over nite (yes it actually happened)
Since putting my dogs in pens I've had ZERO issues whatsoever. Sure....you have to figure out who can be kenneled together/next to each other and who can't. Who needs an escape proof kennel and who doesn't but once that is done.... It's cake!
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