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devildawg86
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« on: February 17, 2014, 08:02:53 pm » |
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What is the biggest influence on how your pack is put together ie... property size, hunting pressure/number of hunters, breeding program, age of pack, high number of sub-standard dogs etc...
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devildawg86
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 08:24:37 pm » |
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Hog I want to catch
u got a bounty on a hog or is it a moby dick complex
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 08:42:14 pm » |
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Hog I want to catch
u got a bounty on a hog or is it a moby dick complex Must be this one...who wants to catch sows and shoats when there's big toothy Barrs to catch, and big toothy boars to Barr!
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Judge peel
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 09:11:38 pm » |
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After you hunt these suckers a while you put a pack to gether that fits you. All the things you stated come in to play my pack is built to my style I put these dog together to stop these nice boar that can out run you or whoop your dogs. So here it is a good loose dog that will stay hooked for when he runs speed to get in front of him size and gritt to shut him down size to take the punishment the boar will hand out and sure enough catch dog to hold him it works for me
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Judge peel
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2014, 09:15:02 pm » |
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It is easier to put these dogs in a pack for what they can do as individual dogs instead of trying to put all in to one super line of dogs
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justincorbell
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 12:48:50 am » |
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I am in the early stages of what i hope to consider "my line" one day, so i guess it would be considered a breeding program. BUT the reason I am attempting the above is due to the fact that i really enjoy hunting behind this line of dogs because they fit me almost perfect, a couple are a hair on the rangy side for me but I dont mind. AND the reason I like these dogs as much as I do is because I have had the opportunity to hunt with them for years and knew first hand that they worked, when I had the opportunity to get a couple I jumped on it and havent looked back, they keep me happy and thats all im worried about!
I couldn't choose only one of the above, they all correlate with each other in my eyes.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 08:19:39 am » |
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It is easier to put these dogs in a pack for what they can do as individual dogs instead of trying to put all in to one super line of dogs
Yup I think it's almost impossible to have a bunch of just bad to the bone super dogs but I think you make a pack that compliment each other and you ll catch some hogs
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Mike
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 08:44:18 am » |
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It doesn't take a "super dog" to find and bay a hog. It doesn't take a pack to find and bay a hog.
If you can't take any one of your dogs and go find and bay a hog... then why feed it?
I'm not talking about pups either.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 11:56:22 am » |
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All my dogs have and will find there own hog are they great dogs no so each dog can add something that another dog lacks in I useliy run 3 or 4 dogs and cd if they run I got one for them if they fight I got two for them if they bay up nice caught hog it's all in what a man wants in his pack your may not work for me as mine may not work for you and so on
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devildawg86
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 06:25:22 pm » |
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It doesn't take a "super dog" to find and bay a hog. It doesn't take a pack to find and bay a hog.
If you can't take any one of your dogs and go find and bay a hog... then why feed it?
I'm not talking about pups either.
my ultimate goal is to have all my dogs be able to find there own but there r situations we may encounter that causes us to make a change n how hunt. A bad hog can wreck a pack let alone one dog
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 08:04:22 pm » |
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I would like for some day have a pack that I can catch hogs with 2 dogs on a hunt or with 6 dogs...
I have a friend that catches lots of hogs with all kinds of crosses that make up his pack...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2014, 08:22:37 pm » |
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Years ago my 1st thing was they came from great dogs themselves and great familes of dogs. Then over the years I took them and added what I wanted and cut what I didnt like about them and molded them into hunting the way I like to hunt . Thats how I been doing it and still doing it . Am like Mike also if a dog cannot find and bay his own hog whats the use of having him .
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hatchet10
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 09:15:03 pm » |
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I agree with judge peel. I got almost every one of my dogs from a pound. Someone gave me a walker hound later on. I don't hunt for sport, I fill my freezer. I've got cur bulldog mixes, bulldogs, leopard mixes, and a little fiest/heeler thing. I pack trained them like a pack of coyotes. I run them on hogs to kill hogs. period. That's my style and don't have a dog that ain't latched on to the hog when I get there. I run them in rice, through brush, up and down creeks, all over the place. I do not have one bay dog. Sometimes big boars get away from me, sometimes they don't that's just the way it goes. Sometimes my little fiest gets drug over into another county. That's why I love them.
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Nannyslayer
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014, 11:19:03 am » |
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With our terrain, I want a dog that will bark every breath on track, and be quick. So far, we have had decent luck putting together our little pack of dogs, and we can go out and catch a hog.
We don't have very many dogs though, and we just recently joined the 300lb boar club, and that thing shut our entire pack down for a couple weeks. Once they all heal up, we will be after em again.
I might be the odd man on here, but I'd rather catch the 150-175 lb boars, than the big ones. The big ones shut our little operation down too long, but our dogs can handle the smaller one's no problem.
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Bowhunter1994
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2014, 11:31:04 am » |
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Interesting topic folks!
Sonny
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If you cant hang with the big dogs STAY ON THE PORCH.
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justincorbell
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014, 11:47:50 am » |
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With our terrain, I want a dog that will bark every breath on track, and be quick. So far, we have had decent luck putting together our little pack of dogs, and we can go out and catch a hog.
We don't have very many dogs though, and we just recently joined the 300lb boar club, and that thing shut our entire pack down for a couple weeks. Once they all heal up, we will be after em again.
I might be the odd man on here, but I'd rather catch the 150-175 lb boars, than the big ones. The big ones shut our little operation down too long, but our dogs can handle the smaller one's no problem.
where we are at its the exact opposite from what i've seen, the biggest hogs we've caught never did any bad damage to the dogs but them little 150lb range hogs have whooped us more than once in the past..........now im not sayin that the big ones don't do it too but we have more trouble with the smaller more athletic hogs.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 02:16:51 pm » |
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With our terrain, I want a dog that will bark every breath on track, and be quick. So far, we have had decent luck putting together our little pack of dogs, and we can go out and catch a hog.
We don't have very many dogs though, and we just recently joined the 300lb boar club, and that thing shut our entire pack down for a couple weeks. Once they all heal up, we will be after em again.
I might be the odd man on here, but I'd rather catch the 150-175 lb boars, than the big ones. The big ones shut our little operation down too long, but our dogs can handle the smaller one's no problem.
where we are at its the exact opposite from what i've seen, the biggest hogs we've caught never did any bad damage to the dogs but them little 150lb range hogs have whooped us more than once in the past..........now im not sayin that the big ones don't do it too but we have more trouble with the smaller more athletic hogs. X2 never had a dog hurt bad on big hog but 150 to 250 that can move have caused fair share of damage
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hatchet10
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 03:26:41 pm » |
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The 250 pound plus is where I have problems also. I guess it depends on the area or something. I will say that the big ones I have caught were wide with 3 inch thick plates on their shoulders. They were also lean. Not big fat hogs. They had big wide shoulders and had narrower hind ends. They are dog killers. Like they had more of a russian blood line in them. I was explaining this in another thread. I hunt with 8 running catch dogs and those big ones shake them off like fleas. The only places my dogs can grab them is on the ears and lower legs. Every other part is bigger than my dogs bite. You get one dog on his ear and the dog gets whooped. You get multiple dogs on them, they bust brush and scrape the dogs off of them against trees. The friends I hunt with run about 3 catch dogs at the most. They've had their dogs gutted, vest and all. Straight up dead dogs. My dogs have been cut up numerous times but I put 8 sets a teeth on them and it seems like the hog just wants to get out of there, not stand and fight.
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