March 28, 2024, 04:38:35 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: ETHD....WE'RE ALL ABOUT HOG DOGGIN!
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Training a catch dog  (Read 3138 times)
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
« on: March 19, 2014, 04:51:59 am »

I need all the advise I can get on how to train a catch dog.
I showed Tank a pig today. He ran right up and bayed for a minute. I flipped the hog, put Tank on his ear, and let the hog up. I left tank on his ear for a few minutes then had to use a break stick to get him off.
I let him catch a few more times.  He caught the jaw once and the ear the rest.
I want him to move into the bay slowly and approach the hog from the rear. Once he is caught I want him to get shoulder to shoulder and anchor down. Are these things that can be taught?
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 05:06:58 am »

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
Logged
bob
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1298



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 07:54:56 am »

You can show him just like you did , means and methods on a CD is learnt in most cases by experience in the woods catching , they will find what's easiest for them and ways they sustain no damage , in most cases they figure it out
Logged
reatj81
Boar Slayer
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 1201


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 08:04:06 am »

Good video
It gives the animal rights activist the stuff they spend hours looking for to help outlaw dog hunting!   
Thanks
Logged
Bowhunter1994
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 540



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 08:16:12 am »

He looks good, I think he is gonna need woods time and Ultimately hogs too learn the techniques that will help him .


The video seems fine to me, nothing to bloody or torn off the hog. I like that you kept it short and didn't show any "disturbing" scenes. Keep on keeping on buddy.
Haters gonna hate no matter what us dog hunters do


Sonny
Logged

If you cant hang with the big dogs STAY ON THE PORCH.
hogmantx1979
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 766


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 08:22:46 am »

Try the dog on a rough hog and maybe he will do what you are wanting because that hog don't look like he put up a fight
Logged

Life is what you make of it!!! Always stay positive
cantexduck
Hog Catching Machine
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2352


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 08:24:02 am »

Good video
It gives the animal rights activist the stuff they spend hours looking for to help outlaw dog hunting!   
Thanks


Refreshing to see someone with the same view on videos.
 Please take that video off the internet. It is illegal for one and moderators will most likely delete your post. There is no reason to post videos of a tied up hog being caught.
Logged

There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.

"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
Rich.
Bowhunter1994
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 540



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 08:26:55 am »

Did not See it was tied! I would  take it off buddy


Sonny
Logged

If you cant hang with the big dogs STAY ON THE PORCH.
Southern Trio
Hog Dog Pup
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 20


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 09:47:54 am »

He's not tied he has one leg hobbled so he can't run off if the pup can't control him and from what I can see he's caught clean on the ear and the hogs not bleeding the worse videos on there of dogs in a pin getting beat down by a big bo hog and with ears torn off. Its not bad buddy but I'm no expert your pup looks great and should make a fine catchdog only things we have done to help with shoulder to shoulder is with help there if you need it push the hog and dog shoulder to shoulder and hold him there for a min it works some times with young pups and helped prevent head shaking win caught on the ear just keep working him buddy in most cases like others have said its gonna take woods time and hogs to get him there good luck and update him every now and then so we can see how he's doing
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 09:59:40 am »

Thank you all for your advice and concerns.

This hog had a piece of mule tape tied to his back leg to help us control him.  I am in Louisiana.  There is nothing illegal going on in the video.  Trust me when I say the hog was free to defend himself. 

If there is anything wrong with the videos the mods will delete it.
Logged
Bo Pugh
Alpha Dog
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 913


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 11:54:02 am »

It's not really much into training a bulldog. They either catch or they don't. All you need to do is start turning him loose to bays right behind another bulldog going in and they usually pick up pretty quick. As far as the getting shoulder to shoulder I don't think that can be taught some dogs get cut everytime they catch something with teeth and some never hardly get cut. But I would think the more big hogs he catches and handles the better he will get just gives him more experience everytime he catches
Logged
hatchet10
Bay Dog
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 34


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 04:27:37 pm »

Bo, someone here might know some tricks on how to get a dog to catch exactly the way you want it. I normally start working my pups when they first get their balance on about a 50 lb fresh hog. I'll take a younger dog about 5 months with some weight on him that will catch and put the pup with him in a circle pin. The older pup trains my smaller pup. I do the same type of thing with my strike dogs. What I've noticed, if i have a older pup that will catch on the ear, the small pup will also try to mimic the older pup. I am never real picky where they catch at the same time though. I think like it was earlier stated also, the dog will want to catch where he feels comfortable catching. I have 8 running catch dogs. I somewhat disagree with the if the dog wont catch, the dog wont catch statement. I spend the least amount of money on purchasing dogs as possible. My dogs came from pounds, the side of the road, and dogs non hog hunters just wanted to get rid of. I got a cur/Bulldog mix from a guy that had it for a family pet and it was too rough with his kids. The first hunt, the rest of my dogs caught a hog, it didn't even bark at the hog. By hunt 3 on a hog, she started baying. By hunt 7 on a hog she was full out catching. I use my dogs to train my new dogs if I need another one. I think a lot of it has to do with pack structure. I don't kennel my dogs either. The lead dog of the pack will set guidelines for the younger dogs. My dogs are not only expected to work and catch a hog for me but are also pressured by my lead dogs. Just like in the wild, a dog that doesn't contribute to the pack gets ran off. If you have males and females, they both have their own separate pecking order. By keeping my dogs together and not chained or kenneled, you can notice who gets the first eating rights and things like that. I only kennel an experienced strike dog up with another pup that has a good nose. For a couple of weeks. Just so the pup will run with and get trained by a dog that is striking. Similar to the way I do my meat head catch dogs without noses. I thought your video was great. Good thing they haven't seen my videos with 8 RCD's on a hog.
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 01:01:43 pm »

Here is a video I got of Tank and a dog that is just getting started. Tank was wore slap out, but still gave it his all.

http://youtu.be/L9cweJaM9rk

He had now caught 3 pigs in the woods. Each time I have broken him off and let him catch a few times. All of the pigs have been in the 100-120 pound range. He had caught them on the back of the jaw on the first catch. After I break him off and let him catch again he goes straight for the ear.
Any tips to get him going straight for the ear the first time?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
Logged
hatchet10
Bay Dog
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 34


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 03:59:57 pm »

Really guys, the day that animal rights activist get hog dogging outlawed in my area, is the day I'll start breaking the law. Personally, I find it more in humane to hide in a stand with a high powered rifle and shoot a hog. What kind of chance does the hog have then? He can't out run a bullet whether he's hobbled or not. Why didn't the animal rights activist outlaw pigman and Ted Nugent when they were flying around in helicopters shooting 100's of hogs? I can't stand people who hunt out of helicopters, the majority of people leave everything lay. Then I have coyotes to deal with. Not saying that TN and PM didn't pick up their kills. There is nothing more fair than running dogs on hogs and if a man wants to use a different training method than I do, I don't persecute him for it. The guy is working with his dog and asked a question to better his hunt and his dog. The definition of "hog dogging" explains the brutality clearly. I hog hunt with my dogs because its a way of life and I do not share the same belief as some people hunting for sport. In the beginning, God created dogs, not guns to feed themselves.
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
Re:
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2014, 05:12:48 pm »

I've come to accept that some people just want to post to be objective and tell somebody that they are wrong. I don't let them bother me. I barely address those comments and let them roll off of my back.
I will say that I put most of my videos as unlisted on YouTube. That means you have to have the link in order to find the video.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
Re:
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2014, 05:14:57 pm »

Hatchet you hit the nail on the head about persecuting people.
Momma said if you can't say nothing nice, zip your lips.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
Logged
Reuben
Internet Hog Hunting Specialist
**********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9461


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 07:22:31 pm »

some folks just don't get it...
Logged

Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
Hogcutter
Hog Dog Pup
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 08:54:44 pm »

Hog bit where r u located at in Louisiana? From your video u sound like down south.


Sent from my iPhone using Smoke Signals
Logged
hog bit
Strike Dog
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 459



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 09:05:53 pm »

Hog bit where r u located at in Louisiana? From your video u sound like down south.


Sent from my iPhone using Smoke Signals
I live in Thibodaux.  I'm about 30 minutes Southwest of New Orleans.
Logged
Hogcutter
Hog Dog Pup
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 09:08:12 pm »

I got ya. I'm working in Houma for the next few weeks. So if y'all need another hand catching some pigs let me know.


Sent from my iPhone using Smoke Signals
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!