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« on: April 17, 2014, 12:53:29 am »

I'm sure there already threads on this no matter the breed what would you pay for a catch dog whether it be a lead in catch dog or a running catch dog I wouldn't sell mine because I don't sell my pits but just curious to what someone would price a proven catch dog . Mine will find and catch his own but it's got to be fresh just curious


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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 07:00:18 am »

Wouldn't sell mine either. A great CD in my opinion is priceless. Although I'd pay top dollar for another 1 just like him. I may be wrong but I say a sure fire, no bs, catch on ear every time type of dog is worth $300-$500. I'd have no problem paying that if it's jam up CD.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 07:30:01 am »

Wouldn't sell mine either. A great CD in my opinion is priceless. Although I'd pay top dollar for another 1 just like him. I may be wrong but I say a sure fire, no bs, catch on ear every time type of dog is worth $300-$500. I'd have no problem paying that if it's jam up CD.

X 2.  In the old days it was never hard to find a bulldog. You could go thru several to find the ones you want that suited you. Now unless you raise your own, it seems like it is a lot harder simply because a good bulldog is not for sale unless it's owner is getting out of hog hunting. Sure you see a lot for sale but most of them are crap.jmo.
  I would have no problem paying $500.00 or even more for a really good one that suited me & consider myself lucky for finding one. Just the cost of a pup, raising him up & taking him hunting, the seller would lose money selling one for $500.00. jmo
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 07:36:03 am »

300 bucks for a good catchdog.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 08:10:17 am »

Wouldn't sell mine either. A great CD in my opinion is priceless. Although I'd pay top dollar for another 1 just like him. I may be wrong but I say a sure fire, no bs, catch on ear every time type of dog is worth $300-$500. I'd have no problem paying that if it's jam up CD.

I would have to agree with you on your price range for a no nonsense straight up ear everytime type cd. ( I personally have never given near that much for a cd BUT if I was in a bind and the right cd became available I more than likely would )
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 08:25:42 am »

Same as with strike dogs...what someone is willing to pay. The thing that gets me is the disparity between the two...particularly with started dogs and pups. (I understand the disparity when speaking of finished dogs)

A good catchdog is not as easy to find as most believe...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 08:32:17 am »

Wouldn't sell mine either. A great CD in my opinion is priceless. Although I'd pay top dollar for another 1 just like him. I may be wrong but I say a sure fire, no bs, catch on ear every time type of dog is worth $300-$500. I'd have no problem paying that if it's jam up CD.
That is my view on it my bull dog is awesome I don't use a break stick nothin when I walk up if he feels me grab his vest he comes off most the time sometimes mainly if it's a big hog it's like he's trying to protect me because he's not coming off but he's caught two on his own on he broke the loop off his vest and bailed out the jeep and we didn't know he was gone because we were out catching piglets and he was caught on the sow about 300 yards away so in my mind he's priceless but my buddy is selling out and has a straight catch cat. And wants 800 but he's jam up I would pay it because I know him but I was thinkin about what people would pay for a catch dog tht they hadn't really spent time with


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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 08:49:08 am »

Wouldn't sell mine either. A great CD in my opinion is priceless. Although I'd pay top dollar for another 1 just like him. I may be wrong but I say a sure fire, no bs, catch on ear every time type of dog is worth $300-$500. I'd have no problem paying that if it's jam up CD.
That is my view on it my bull dog is awesome I don't use a break stick nothin when I walk up if he feels me grab his vest he comes off most the time sometimes mainly if it's a big hog it's like he's trying to protect me because he's not coming off but he's caught two on his own on he broke the loop off his vest and bailed out the jeep and we didn't know he was gone because we were out catching piglets and he was caught on the sow about 300 yards away so in my mind he's priceless but my buddy is selling out and has a straight catch cat. And wants 800 but he's jam up I would pay it because I know him but I was thinkin about what people would pay for a catch dog tht they hadn't really spent time with


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Man now days with all the "dog deals gone bad" that we hear about it would be real hard for me to spend 300-500$ based off of someones word, unless I knew them pretty good, its too easy to get burned on a bad dog to justify passing off 300-500 bucks of your hard earned money not really knowing what you are getting. I have been lucky I guess, seems like since I started I have never had an issue finding a cd. If I didn't have one at the time one of my buddies did and if they didn't then I did. Hell 3/4 of the time I never even tote my cd because I know the guys that im going with have good cd's and its less hassle to leave mine at home  Cheesy. Hell right now I have 2 at the house that will both catch a hog but I don't consider either of em catch dogs yet, one is a full blooded AB that was given to me and the other is a well built blue pit that was also given to me.

Hell not 2 miles down the road from me there is a boy breeding a damn blue pit gyp that only catches 50% of the time to any good lookin male he can get his hands on just to make a buck........ How many others do you think are doing the same thing??? That right there is the main reason that sub par bay dogs and cd's are all over the place these days and we hear about so many people being burned.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 09:19:05 am »

Exactly people Breed these dogs that ain't worth the food they eat at night and mark them as proven dogs when they haven't showed gold from sh** of being a good breedable dog that's going to make good dogs my dogs are good and out of known proven blood but even with good dogs and good blood you still will always have culls in the group but I would never sell a dog as started or finished to someone I didn't know because who knows he may work for me but not for you your style is different then mine and I got your money and you have a dog u don't like like people putting year old pups as finished strike dogs I'm not sayin you can't have a jam up young dog but to call it finished one week and post him three weeks before as young started dogs there's no trust in it anymore


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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 09:33:58 am »

Ya your best bet at having a sure thing us either breed yourself or find a friend that does. Been raising our own cds and I promise it's whole lot easier and you don't have to put up with all the bs. I like a sure deal and raising your own is the only way to get close.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 09:55:51 am »

Exactly people Breed these dogs that ain't worth the food they eat at night and mark them as proven dogs when they haven't showed gold from sh** of being a good breedable dog that's going to make good dogs my dogs are good and out of known proven blood but even with good dogs and good blood you still will always have culls in the group but I would never sell a dog as started or finished to someone I didn't know because who knows he may work for me but not for you your style is different then mine and I got your money and you have a dog u don't like like people putting year old pups as finished strike dogs I'm not sayin you can't have a jam up young dog but to call it finished one week and post him three weeks before as young started dogs there's no trust in it anymore


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Man you nailed it! That is why I  breed my dogs for me as needed. If I have extra pups that I don't care to keep then I pass em around to hunting buddies that have hunted behind the parents and are familiar with both before the pups ever hit the ground.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 09:59:20 am »

Exactly people Breed these dogs that ain't worth the food they eat at night and mark them as proven dogs when they haven't showed gold from sh** of being a good breedable dog that's going to make good dogs my dogs are good and out of known proven blood but even with good dogs and good blood you still will always have culls in the group but I would never sell a dog as started or finished to someone I didn't know because who knows he may work for me but not for you your style is different then mine and I got your money and you have a dog u don't like like people putting year old pups as finished strike dogs I'm not sayin you can't have a jam up young dog but to call it finished one week and post him three weeks before as young started dogs there's no trust in it anymore


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Man you nailed it! That is why I  breed my dogs for me as needed. If I have extra pups that I don't care to keep then I pass em around to hunting buddies that have hunted behind the parents and are familiar with both before the pups ever hit the ground.

and just so I'm clear I'm agreeing with you overall on what you are talking about regarding breeding dogs period, the dogs im speaking of breeding are my currs, like I said above I don't breed/raise cd's but I do have a readily available source for cd's when I need one   Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 10:06:29 am »

I was extremely lucky on my cd.  My buddy had her and gave her to me, but he had plenty of offers from people to buy her.  His idea was, I hunt with him, and he hunts with me, he knows how she catches, and I didn't have a good catch dog.  We both sleep better at night knowing that when we send the cd in, it is going to do it's job.  He could have sold her for pretty good money, but instead he gave her to me, and he continues to benefit from her. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 10:09:00 am »

Also, seems like there are an influx of "bull dogs" out there right now.  Where I live, I wouldn't have a problem finding a free pit anytime.  I know that it wouldn't be out of proven blood lines, but if it would grab a hog and hang on, what more could you ask for?  Be hard to pay for a pit, when I could have 10 for free tomorrow.  BUT, as the old saying goes, most of the time you get what you pay for, especially with free dogs..........
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 10:29:00 am »

Well put Nannyslayer. I know there's plenty of hunters out there who use "pound pits" or bull dogs they find for free here and there and I think there's nothing wrong with it at all if they catch right and have yard manners. I think the major change in the sport is that people value their dogs much more now than say 10-15 years ago. That's not to say that people didn't care but there were far less hunters and the ones who were doing it usually had at least 10-15 dogs. If one got cut down and was laid up it wasn't as big an issue because replacements were available. Now it seems your average hog dog owner keeps 8 or less and if a dog's on IR it's a much bigger loss to his team. That being the case,  a great catch dog that can stop a bad hog and hold smart and in doing so keep the strike dogs out of harm, is very much worth having around.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 10:32:34 am »

Well put Nannyslayer. I know there's plenty of hunters out there who use "pound pits" or bull dogs they find for free here and there and I think there's nothing wrong with it at all if they catch right and have yard manners. I think the major change in the sport is that people value their dogs much more now than say 10-15 years ago. That's not to say that people didn't care but there were far less hunters and the ones who were doing it usually had at least 10-15 dogs. If one got cut down and was laid up it wasn't as big an issue because replacements were available. Now it seems your average hog dog owner keeps 8 or less and if a dog's on IR it's a much bigger loss to his team. That being the case,  a great catch dog that can stop a bad hog and hold smart and in doing so keep the strike dogs out of harm, is very much worth having around.
Very well said, basically the ? Should be is how much is your strike dog worth. A good CD can at years to a man's pack.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 10:50:26 am »

Well put Nannyslayer. I know there's plenty of hunters out there who use "pound pits" or bull dogs they find for free here and there and I think there's nothing wrong with it at all if they catch right and have yard manners. I think the major change in the sport is that people value their dogs much more now than say 10-15 years ago. That's not to say that people didn't care but there were far less hunters and the ones who were doing it usually had at least 10-15 dogs. If one got cut down and was laid up it wasn't as big an issue because replacements were available. Now it seems your average hog dog owner keeps 8 or less and if a dog's on IR it's a much bigger loss to his team. That being the case,  a great catch dog that can stop a bad hog and hold smart and in doing so keep the strike dogs out of harm, is very much worth having around.
my best pit I ever had was a pound pit she was amazing she went everywhere with me but I found out tht she was used for a breeder pit for fighting dogs and she never showed one bit of aggression unless dogs were in a fight she would break them up she was my kid but I got lucky and that's it just sheer luck it's much better If you raise them regarding pits that was her she was a tank if I could have her back today I would do whatever it took they say not to get close to them but it's hard when they love you as much as you love them and they show it


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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 10:52:19 am »

 I feel that a catch dog is just as important as your best cur. A lot of dogs catch. Few are catchdogs. I gave 200-300 for one and got anther in a package deal. I would not sell ether one. I like knowing the hog is controlled when they get there. My best dog will help catch. Her getting cut has been drastically reduced after I got my big male bulldog. He is 90-95 pounds of hog hate.  I have never bred a dog but last week he was bred to a nice female catchdog if that says anything.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 10:52:57 am »

Those pics were back when I was a real poor man dc 20 a tracker classics don't miss them days at all


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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2014, 10:55:05 am »

I feel that a catch dog is just as important as your best cur. A lot of dogs catch. Few are catchdogs. I gave 200-300 for one and got anther in a package deal. I would not sell ether one. I like knowing the hog is controlled when they get there. My best dog will help catch. Her getting cut has been drastically reduced after I got my big male bulldog. He is 90-95 pounds of hog hate.  I have never bred a dog but last week he was bred to a nice female catchdog if that says anything.
its not bad to breed two proven dogs and if he's that big and if the dam is close give me a shout I may take one I want to raise one more


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