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« on: July 15, 2014, 08:46:42 am »

Hi everyone, I'm looking for some vest advice and hoping you could help me out.

I've got a young male mastiff x and recently the other young males on our walks have started to notice him. Fortunately we haven't had anything too horrific happen, but I'm tired of worrying that my dog is going to get seriously injured so I want to do what I can to make sure he's as safe as I can make him.

I've read everything the Internet has to offer for those in my situation and the only thing I'm certain on is that I don't want him torn to pieces. I've had a look around and aside from the super expensive police ballistic vests, I think the cut vests designed for catch dogs might just be my best bet.

Right now I've narrowed it down to:

Razorback's Gladiator with its 2 layers of cordura, 2 layers of ducks and some gel.

Southern Cross Full Vest with an outer layer of 1000 denier Cordura, thick 1/4 inch PolyFelt chest plate, coated DuPont Kevlar throughout, and another interior layer of 1000 denier Cordura.

Guardian Kevlar with kevlar sandwiched between 2 layers of 1000 denier textured nylon, 3 layer kevlar chest and 2 later kevlar sides. Also with kevlar neck, kevlar leg flaps and chin flap with trauma plates.

Guardian Titan as above with additional kevlar layers.

Devastator Kevlar, with 3 layer kevlar neck and 2 layer kevlar body. Overlapping triple sleeve design on each leg to give the dog's shoulders and legs unmatched protection while at the same time allowing maximum range of motion. The leg flaps have one layer of kevlar between two layers of fabric for added protection.

Appearance isn't too important, nor weight, as he won't be working. Currently he wears a Julius K9 harness so I would have to think about placing that over/under the vest.

Thankfully, I don't really know much about dog bites so I don't know where the other dogs will target or how different materials will perform against an aggressive dog. Equally, I'm not sure how hogs fight so I'm not entirely sure what the vests are designed to stand up to (aside from tusks).

Please would you share your experience and knowledge of vests and let me know which you believe would best suit my situation.

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 08:58:19 am »

If ur wanting to protect from neighborhood dogs fighting with him. Then keep him leashed up while yaw are walking and carry a 4' hickory limb. An aggressive dog runs, babe ruth its ass back to its property.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2014, 09:27:04 am »

If ur wanting to protect from neighborhood dogs fighting with him. Then keep him leashed up while yaw are walking and carry a 4' hickory limb. An aggressive dog runs, babe ruth its ass back to its property.
Yeah, it's the neighbourhood dogs. I keep mine on a lead and he walks to heel when we see another dog, but some owners can't stop their dogs running up and attacking him. So far we've kept them all just off him (he made contact last time, pinning a patterdale) but I'm worried in case something bigger goes for him. I've read so much online, I go to training classes and I've bought various protection aerosols but I want something specifically to protect my dog.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2014, 09:29:14 am »

If ur wanting to protect from neighborhood dogs fighting with him. Then keep him leashed up while yaw are walking and carry a 4' hickory limb. An aggressive dog runs, babe ruth its ass back to its property.

You could go with the Loisville Slugger method- or I would carry a cattle prod with me.  Let the neighbor dog try attack and put the shock to him and I gauantee he leaves!!!!  And you dont even have to swing!
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 09:36:48 am »

Are the neighborhood dogs loose ?
Also how old is your dog ?
I'm not seeing a dog just flat out going to tear your dog up if its a mastiff cross

Also if the other dogs are on leashes walking too , then go to the other side of road
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 09:39:06 am »

If ur wanting to protect from neighborhood dogs fighting with him. Then keep him leashed up while yaw are walking and carry a 4' hickory limb. An aggressive dog runs, babe ruth its ass back to its property.

You could go with the Loisville Slugger method- or I would carry a cattle prod with me.  Let the neighbor dog try attack and put the shock to him and I gauantee he leaves!!!!  And you dont even have to swing!
I wish! Except I'm based in the UK so I can't carry a baseball bat, pepper spray or cattle prod (they're "offensive weapons"!) so I have to rely on an airhorn and citronella spray. I'm also worried that the dog will be moving too fast for me to get an instant hit in so I wouldn't want it seriously injuring my dog before I could get at it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 09:43:15 am »

Are the neighborhood dogs loose ?
Also how old is your dog ?
I'm not seeing a dog just flat out going to tear your dog up if its a mastiff cross

Also if the other dogs are on leashes walking too , then go to the other side of road

He's only about 75lb and the other dogs are being walking off lead with the owner several metres behind them. I'm worried one day we might cross paths with two Rottweilers or five labs.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 10:00:48 am »

more than likely, you need to quit being so worried and Sheepish. your energy is more than likely the problem and with a mastiff, if you don't have the boldness and confidence, then he will. and you wont like the results.

you don't need to put him in PPE. you need to watch the dog whisperer
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 10:14:36 am »

more than likely, you need to quit being so worried and Sheepish. your energy is more than likely the problem and with a mastiff, if you don't have the boldness and confidence, then he will. and you wont like the results.

you don't need to put him in PPE. you need to watch the dog whisperer
I'm not so convinced that it's me giving off scared vibes, but I figured if it is then I'd be a heck of a lot more confident if I know my dog won't get injured. I've watched Cesar and my pup definitely knows his place in the pack (right at the bottom, even beneath my other dogs) and he's fine when the other dog is under control, but some dogs just run at him with attack in mind.

One time he was following behind my friend chasing a toy as we walked and a dog on lead just went at him, totally unprovoked as he was focused on his toy. Another time some stupid woman passed us but then let her dog run up behind us and jump on him (we didn't even notice the dog was coming back till it was on him) and the last time the dog just ran straight in for attack.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 11:09:13 am »

   you could vest the dog up in any of the vest but I don't think it would give you the protection you desire  as most dog fights are mainly injurious to the head and leg areas .  if it was me I would find a new place to walk my dog . good luck in whatever you decide  .
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 12:01:12 pm »

get him a custom made livestock guardian dog "spike collar".

they are designed so that when the attacking dog (or wolf in the lgd case) gets ahold of your dog's throat he gets a mouthful of something he doesn't want. most of the time, they hit the head and throat/neck hardest.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2014, 12:23:40 pm »

more than likely, you need to quit being so worried and Sheepish. your energy is more than likely the problem and with a mastiff, if you don't have the boldness and confidence, then he will. and you wont like the results.

you don't need to put him in PPE. you need to watch the dog whisperer
I'm not so convinced that it's me giving off scared vibes, but I figured if it is then I'd be a heck of a lot more confident if I know my dog won't get injured. I've watched Cesar and my pup definitely knows his place in the pack (right at the bottom, even beneath my other dogs) and he's fine when the other dog is under control, but some dogs just run at him with attack in mind.

One time he was following behind my friend chasing a toy as we walked and a dog on lead just went at him, totally unprovoked as he was focused on his toy. Another time some stupid woman passed us but then let her dog run up behind us and jump on him (we didn't even notice the dog was coming back till it was on him) and the last time the dog just ran straight in for attack.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2014, 12:40:16 pm »

Watch Cesar Malian on discovery channel. Be calm and assertive
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2014, 01:12:12 pm »

Move to the USA,, EASY to come up through Mexico right now!  Can u not call a bobby on the person not controlling their dogs?  Lord have mercy,,,, can ya'll do or carry ANYTHING to protect yourselves, your family, and animals???
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 01:55:30 pm »

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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2014, 02:02:35 pm »

The LGD collars would be quite fitting, especially as the attack before last was by a kangal! I was hoping the chin protection on the cut vests would protect his neck enough though as I'm worried the spiked collar may catch him as he twists. Someone in a store the other day told me a staffy ripped their friend's dog's throat open recently so with the luck I've been having, I want to make sure my dog has the best chances when/if his turn comes. These attacks happened just a few miles away from my house:

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/Three-dogs-savage-pet-in-horror-attack-in-Cambridge-park-then-turn-on-terrified-owner-Liz-McKintyre-20140328055027.htm

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/I-thought-she-was-going-to-die-Owner-of-savaged-pet-Harper-tells-of-the-horrifying-attack-by-two-loose-dogs-in-Royston-20140206060057.htm

http://m.fenlandcitizen.co.uk/news/latest-news/pet-injured-after-a-dog-attack-in-murrow-1-6172295
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 02:15:21 pm »

a catch vest is not going to give you any protection on any kind of dog jumping on your dog as to where most dogs when they fight they usually go for legs are ears. just carry a sharp pocket knife with you and keep your dog on a leash and one or two dogs you can kick them or shoo them off, if they do grab your dog or get close enough stick them in the guts with that knife and i bet they will tuck their tail between their legs, its several ways to go about this, but i dont think a vest is one
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2014, 03:14:10 pm »

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Yes sir I do agree
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2014, 03:17:28 pm »

I recommend a stun gun that shoots out the leads. Then u won't have to get excited just pop and watch them flop. Ur dog won't become aggressive following ur actions.


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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2014, 06:55:00 pm »

Something weird about this post.
Yes sir I do agree

I thought the same thing when I first read.........

So why are you in the UK and getting on this board?  Im just wondering?  Maybe others are wondering the same?
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