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It sounds like ur up that paticular creek without a paddle. If the night stick cops in ur area wont help and ur country wont let u protect urself or ur dog then that creek is getting deeper and has some bad rapids. If finding a new place to walk ur dog is out of the qestion and u wanna continue to walk ur dog, then u may need to nut up n if need be football punt the "attacking" dog and if it continues the attack, get in the middle of it choke the dog out, grab a mouth full of ear or nose n a handfull of nuts with a twist n pull. The attacking dog will give up when it cant breathe or is more pain than it figured u could cause. If u cant do any of those advises, then u may not need to walk ur dog anymore or hav a dog/s that require u to walk them in dangerous areas.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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So why are you in the UK and getting on this board? Im just wondering? Maybe others are wondering the same?
May not hav a choice to be there, could be a service member stationed there or a spouse of a service member. This person is no different than the ausie crew that are members on here as is with members in other states other than tx. But i too am getting the feeling its a bs scam by an anti group to find out the extent of "abuse" caused to animals.
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#1. Agree with Charles on his advice he gave you. #2. Yes this does seem a rather odd use of cut gear, but I bet you wildboarusa.com would appreciate your greenbacks no matter what you do with their vests. Heck, you wouldn't be the first to buy hog dog cut gear for dogs that ain't catching hogs. #3. Charles is right again fellas, this is WORLD WIDE WEB. Occasionally someone outside of America will get on it too.
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Something weird about this post.
Yes sir I do agree Yes, a subtle hint of trolling. Not sure the intentions of coming on here. If the OP is sincere, carry a pocket knife (if the Queen permits you to carry one?). Any aggressive dog that is off leash and puts its teeth on your dog should have the air let out of it by means of pocket knife.
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So why are you in the UK and getting on this board? Im just wondering? Maybe others are wondering the same?
May not hav a choice to be there, could be a service member stationed there or a spouse of a service member. This person is no different than the ausie crew that are members on here as is with members in other states other than tx. But i too am getting the feeling its a bs scam by an anti group to find out the extent of "abuse" caused to animals. Most service members live on post- as you know Charles, MP would not allow this. Just as Ausies, most English men type just a bit different- this person types and communicates well. Write like an educated American would write. Correct punctuation and sentence structure. It is an interesting post though- I hope it continues.
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since you can't carry any type of weapons to defend yours or yourself then maybe packing a nice and heavy duty walking cane...carry it with you when out walking with your dog...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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As i do know, no. Not all families or gis live on the instalation, even in a forgein country. They can choose to off the economy or forced off post due to lack of housing or barack space on the installation. But tes, u r right, mps wont allow it after the first incident
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Get yourself a cur dog from this part of the world for a bodyguard to your dog. It should be able to handle most all these vicious dogs in jolly old England. If you run in to the Kangal again, maybe your sissy dog with the dress on will help out.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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Bottom line is, a cut vest is something we hog hunters use to help protect our dogs from possible injury from a hogs tusks. Our dogs don't "fight" hogs....that sounds like an HSUS term and it's nauseating. I doubt a cut vest would fit the bill for what you want. Like already suggested, if you're worried about your big mastiff getting jumped, carry a stick, or mace even if they allow that over there. Or take a little drive and go somewhere else to walk your dog that's not known for loose/roaming dog attacks. Don't know what other kinds of advice you'd expect to hear here.
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Yes sir I do agree I thought the same thing when I first read......... So why are you in the UK and getting on this board? Im just wondering? Maybe others are wondering the same? I have literally been taken everywhere Google sends me, searching for something to protect my pup. At first I was looking at ren-faire type leather dog armour but most of the gear out there is purely cosmetic. I considered making some sort of 9oz hardened leather vest but I just can't see that happening and I think it'd restrict movement. After scrolling way too far in a Google image search I saw a cut vest and just kept following the trail and I figure you guys are the ones to ask about them(!). I had my mind set on the gladiator vest but I imagine the gel would burst and the cordura can't be much tougher than a horse rug? I have a feeling this forum contains a wealth of experience with the vests and the ways dogs move and twist so will have some useful advice for me. Right now I'm thinking a cut collar is a definite - bit concerned the spikes will get me or my dog - as I want to make sure his neck is safe. Think manning up a bit and letting my dog do more to defend himself will help too, but I know one day he'll meet a bigger dog and I would like some sort of body protection too.
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If you choose a company you want to order a vest from, you can have one custom made to fit by sending in the measurements to the provider, therefore movement shouldn't be restricted much. Your dog can run hot though on extended walks since he is a large breed so you'd need to pay attention to that as well. That's about all the advice I can think of to offer. With your dog being a mastiff cross and large you shouldn't have much to worry about as far as him defending himself if need be in an unwarranted attack. If h were a ten pound poodle I'd be a bit more concerned.
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Sorry, I don't mean to sound so weird. My family haven't had any peace from my ramblings ever since the last attack as I genuinely just want to protect my dog the best I can! I'm starting to think that perhaps I looked at too many dog bite pictures on the Leerburg website and came across too many horror stories while doing my research. He's still under a year an there's been two incidents on one walk we take and three on the other. In the UK there's not really any leash laws if walking in the countryside (and most are ignored. Come to think of it, he was leapt on by a dog on a leash only park too!!) and pavements here are about a metre wide at best so don't make the best of walks. To be honest, the fact that many of you have said my dog should be able to look after himself is actually massively reassuring - to me he's still the little puppy I carried home so I guess maybe I should let him "protect himself". I'm a bit worried about him becoming aggressive though so would rather he was never actually "harmed" by the other dogs (with the patterdale he just pinned it till I opened his mouth and let it run off).
I'm genuinely not a troll, I just want to stop a dog biting mine. Kind of thinking there may be a good business in dog protection vests now considering the little luck I'm having!
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I smell an anti boys....
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superdog
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Something weird about this post.
Yes sir I do agree Yes, a subtle hint of trolling. Not sure the intentions of coming on here. If the OP is sincere, carry a pocket knife (if the Queen permits you to carry one?). Any aggressive dog that is off leash and puts its teeth on your dog should have the air let out of it by means of pocket knife. We're allowed a three inch folding blade that can't lock and can't have a quick opening mechanism and we need to have a "good reason" for carrying it, which can't be protection or self defence or I'll end up in jail I'm really just looking for some experiences of the vests and collars as they're pretty expensive so I don't want to buy twice (but they're still cheaper than the vet stitching him up). Something like "don't bother with the gladiator vest, it's nothing more than two canvas dog coats sewn together" or "xyz tried it on with my dog but he had his vest on so nothing happened" or "a single layer of kevlar won't stop a dog bite but the triple layer should stop the teeth reaching the skin".
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Id say ur country is more screwed up than ours if ur gov thinks self protection aint a good enough reason to carry a knife. If ur dead set on a vest and will have nothing less, then there is a vest manufacturer in austrialia (i think thats where they are located) that makes a chain male vest. There was a topic on here a good while back. Use the search function and see if u can find that topic. When i looked at it, there was a long lead time on it but for the meen time, only advise would b dont walk ur dog or curb check the nxt dog that attack ur giant puppy. Try patitioning ur parlament and local night stick carriers to for advise and what ur legal boundries are on all these "unprovoked" dog attacks to ur minature clydsdale
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Cut collars don't have spikes. They are made exactly the same as vest. With the same material. Vest are made to stop the slashing and cutting a hogs tusk make. They also cushion impact slightly. While a vest may or may not prevent puncture wounds from a bite it will do little to prevent the crushing aspect of a dog bite. It could also give another place for a dog to get hold of . Ur best options are walk somewhere else, carry a club, mace or stun gun.
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if a club mace or stungun is not an option on your little island i suggest a handy tree limb !
what are you gonna do even with all the protective equipment you can afford ? whatch somebodyelses chitteaters destroy it while you try to keep from getting arrested ??
GOD BLESS GEORGE WASHINGTON , AND ALL PATRIOTS LIVING AND DECEASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GOD BLESS GEORGE WASHINGTON , AND ALL PATRIOTS LIVING AND DECEASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminds me of the coment mathew quigley told that british major: "Major Ashley-Pitt: In our experience, Americans are uncouth misfits who should be run out of their own barbaric country. Matthew Quigley: Well, Lieutenant... Major Ashley-Pitt: Major. Matthew Quigley: Major. We already run the misfits outta our country. We sent 'em back to England."
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Something like "don't bother with the gladiator vest, it's nothing more than two canvas dog coats sewn together" or "xyz tried it on with my dog but he had his vest on so nothing happened" or "a single layer of kevlar won't stop a dog bite but the triple layer should stop the teeth reaching the skin". Why do you want someone to write that? You've been given plenty of advice on options and are still pushing like your looking for something else like you want to take someone's suggestion out of context to use it for something else. I'd leave this alone and not talk to this guy fellas, if he is legit and cares for his dog he will figure it out on his own he got this far. But I think it's something more, smells fishy !
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IF YOUR SCARED GO TO CHURCH !
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