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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2014, 09:36:02 pm »

KevinN everything u want your dog to do is sitting in my yard. When there hunted by there selves they bay about 5 feet back. If it's a shioat it ain't running it will get caught before I get there. Everybody who's ever hunted with me I bel eave will agree.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2014, 10:37:12 pm »

I had a yellow dog that a lot of buddies hated because he was rough, but it was
on average hogs 200lbs and under, but when he bayed get ready for battle
because he would backed up on big boars, didn't give a dam about a sow,  but boars that fought
he would shut them down and wait for the real hitters catch dog!!


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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2014, 09:16:48 am »

Most of mine would be considered rough, but will back up on a rank nasty big hog. Sometimes they dont back up fast enough and its a trip to the vets office. My bulldog runs loose and has some leg and wind and is usually there pretty quick. You have to have a lot of trust in them for that. Couple years ago was seeing a lot of small sows and pigs, so I didnt take a bulldog. Got on a big boar and 178 stitches later, almost lost a good one. My vet still says it the worst he has seen that still lived.
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2014, 09:17:45 pm »

Mine are to stupid to back up or to gung-ho not sure which
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2014, 09:24:22 pm »

I had a yellow dog that a lot of buddies hated because he was rough, but it was
on average hogs 200lbs and under, but when he bayed get ready for battle
because he would backed up on big boars, didn't give a dam about a sow,  but boars that fought
he would shut them down and wait for the real hitters catch dog!!




I got a rough one jus like ur dog, if he is barking its really big or really rank.
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2014, 09:47:03 pm »

 I like both.....If I had big big land to hunt I would love the loose type dogs run them all day then when they finally stop then just sit back and watch the show .   But since I do not have land like that to hunt I have to have dogs that will stop a hog and mount him right there on the spot and the rest of the dogs better help out.  I like to run ruff dogs that will pull some hair on a moving hog and then a couple of dogs along with them that there is no doubt what they are going to do their minds are made up its you are me no questions asked no doubts in their minds.  I have caught more big big hogs with these kinds of dogs than any other and the marthon races all but stop with these kind.  I like em both its ruff to catch for me .
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« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2014, 10:34:31 pm »

I like a dog that will bay close to the hog  and put just the right amount of pressure on the hog. One that will bite a hog bASS when he tries to run and will bay him all day!!
Rough dogs will get cut down to quick down here.. They always seem to break the bay where I hunt!!!
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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2014, 10:50:34 pm »

Bow hunter 94 where y'all hunt we hunt hr south of Dallas the runners around here hit the thick spots field thicker spot and field if you don't shut them down fast they will be long gone and if your dog can stay with em you are going to have to foot it to em
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2014, 11:15:07 pm »

Deep South Texas.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2014, 09:49:07 am »

I hear ya bow hunter but getting cut down happens every where mine been cut up north east and west guess I need to go down south and so they can make a circle lol. All joking aside I heard it is rough hunting down there
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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2014, 01:20:22 am »

Taz you pretty much stated the perfect dog to me

I agree as well...and  with enough sense to not over heat and to take care of itself on a bad hog...
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2014, 09:03:46 am »

Good stock dog instincts knows when to slobber in ones face to hold bay, and when to back up 12-15 feet and circle, or when to apply the teeth.  They can read the situation and apply proper amount of pressure to hold bay.
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2014, 12:54:00 pm »

Lots of variables to the loose/ruff dog thing-including age and experience.  I have seven plotts, one Catahoula, and one dogo.  If I want to  go somewhere where there is a bunch of hogs and I want to catch a lot of hogs- I take my 11 year old cat gyp and my dogo.  I'll being catching and tying hogs faster than I can keep up with.  If I am going to a big section of land that has fewer hogs, I'll take the plotts and it may take a while, but I will end up with a hog or two.  I have just as much fun with an all day race as I do catching a mess of hogs.  Sometimes I prefer the race and will try to make the hog run intentionally just to keep a race going.  With my plotts, they are going to try to catch most hogs.  Two of the plotts are almost RCD type.  My ruffest plott (Joe) is going to catch (or try) any hog that will stand for a second.  So, I keep some ruff and some loose.  I think of them as tools in my tool box.  Sometimes I need a hammer, sometimes I need a screw driver.  For me they key is they all work and they are all good tools for the purpose I intend.
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 08:26:58 pm »

You will catch hogs with either type. I like loose dogs but it's some days I wish they was ruff as cobbs. You will have to just see what you like and what works good in your places you hunt. I like to hear a dog baying its heart out and it's not many ruff dogs that do that haha so that's the reason I like loose
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2014, 09:19:19 am »

Different styles work better for different places so I tried to raise dogs across the spectrum. I hunt anywhere from 1 to 4 at time depending where I'm hunting and how i'm hunting. I have a bird bull that will catch just about any size hog, but I have seen him bay twice after being cut down really bad. I have a bird dog that'll give the hog 5-8 feet and bay, and I have 3 other birddog crosses that will be 2-5 feet away and catch anything under 150. The thing I like about them all is they hate for a hog to run and they all will pull nuts till he stops. I can't see what they do in the woods but I turn them loose on hogs in fields with night vision and they'll catch on the nuts or tail and be drug a few yards till he turns to fight. They'll let go and bay unless he tries to break again, then its back to pullin nuts.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2014, 09:49:49 am »

Rough!! Cur dogs catch most everything they should being stock bred.. They sit back when they need to. Everything else gets strung out. It's nice when you can catch 20-30 hogs in a day and only use your bulldog a handful of times.  Smiley it's not for everyone but someone has to do it.

We tied 33 this day and used the bull dog about 3 times I believe.

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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2014, 09:52:37 am »

Ours are rough as a pack though.. Not really just one or two rough dogs.. They are all about the same, but you get 4 or 5 there and it's a caught hog or you are gonna need the bull dog. Got to be in shape to hunt this way though
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2014, 12:53:14 pm »

In shape and fast huh? Tony
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2014, 01:48:06 pm »

Haha like you Mathew! Shape like that lol
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2014, 01:55:10 pm »

 im.not as fast as you... I can get there. But I do not think we ever went to the same hog caught/bayed...
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