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ChanceandAnita
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« on: August 10, 2014, 10:43:35 am » |
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Idk what to think bout my tank dog, he is the only pup out of my diesel and Yella cross that I kept. Not because he was the pick of the litter , I had several people want to buy him as a puppy but when they asked how he was doing in training, the people choose a pup that was further along. So I held on to him and kept working on him. At 7 months he and his brother Bert struck 2 pigs and put teeth on them , one 110 pounds  one 242 pounds  on their first time to the woods. Bert red pup Tank light color 7 months  Couple weeks after we lost Bert hunting, Tank was with him and has scars on his hip from that encounter. Over the last 4 months Tanks switch has turned on and at a year old he has started leading our pack out striking some of my older dogs.  Pulling out this 343 pounder last weekend  What has me worried is he has decided to strike and catch on the last two hunts, grabbing big pigs that he should have set off two bay and his actions has cause some of my looser dogs to load up and hold fighting the pig before the CD get there. Getting my older female dog Yella eye popped out blinding her on the big pig they caught. Last night we dropped the dogs, decided to road them in cause we had already hit a walking place with no luck. Tank, spot, Thor, Creeksus and My pup Henry was running ahead of the truck down the road. Tanks nose tilted to the air high and he was gone hauled ass to the south all the dogs followed. 150 yards I hear Yipps and it was Tank trail barking with spot barking behind. We get out of the truck to get the CD and hear Creeksus barking, knew we had a good bay out 335 yards and start to them. We get within 115 yards and it's sold briars can't see in front of u. Start pushing through when Thor returned to me cut though the mouth, I still hear the dogs but can't see to release my cd. Now we are within 60 yards can hear them but not see anything when Tank returned to us cut under his front leg to rib, spot and Creeksus my older dogs was still holding, chance and I knew we had to get the bulldogs to them and unclipped them blind. Chico and diesel hit we hear it but still can't get to it. Found a pig trail got down and went into this confined area. It was so tight chance had a hard time getting this pig turned with all the dogs holding him. Finally flipped him and there was no place to tie dogs so we had to take him out. Bulldogs was on him a lot longer than normal waiting on us. Checked diesel and he was cut in the ribs behind his jacket and in the hind quarters, Chico is good. Looked round and found Creeksus he was wore plum out, gasping.. His throat was cut from side to side but no blood pumping, he had been gored though the back where the tooth went all the way though and gored though his hind quarter where he been tossed fighting this hog. So now I have 4 cut dogs that will be out a few weeks or more. Guess what I'm wondering was it jus the spot these big pigs choose to fight my dogs that caused these injuries , or combination of both rough dog and big pig. My dogs normally fight a second to hold then back off and bay. Last night pig guessing him at 250    
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KevinN
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 11:55:30 am » |
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One of the perils of running rough dogs. They get in a spot like that and try to catch it can be tough. Just no room to maneuver. No guarantees regular bay dogs won't be cut in a situation like that but with rough dogs....you can pretty much be sure you'll be stitching or stapling.
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KevinN
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 11:56:33 am » |
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Nice hog too! Hope your dogs heal strong!
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Canyonranch
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 01:57:09 pm » |
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Good pigs and good looking dogs. When me and my wife is back in mineral wells I'll holler at you and we need to hook up and go hunting. We just moved from there to waxahachie but still have some spots to hunt around there.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 07:44:51 pm » |
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That is awesome nice hogs great looking dogs
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cantexduck
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 08:31:34 pm » |
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I would try running less dogs maybe. Hunt your loose dogs apart from the rough ones. Hard to have it both ways. Nice hog. Hope the dogs heal up fast.
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Nannyslayer
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 11:56:55 pm » |
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Those are some big ole pigs.
I put a story up here about a dog wrecker. Went back to the area where my dogs had him caught in the daylight (bay dogs are loose and don't catch all that much, but the pig shook 3 bulldogs) and it was head high briars and multilour rose. He worked my pack over in there.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 07:15:09 am » |
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Good looking dogs, and like that your young dog is turning the switch on!! Always a exciting time when you breed your own!
As far as big hogs working the dogs over, it's part of the game. They got big from being smart, so stopping in a thick spot works for him! Your dogs sound like they have what it takes, my suggestion is run fewer dogs on the ground at one time. My dogs are smarter hunting by themselves then in a group. More then one dog and they all grab a hold! It's a good thing, but to many and your running out of safe places to grab! By themselves they tend to catch what they can handle. Not all of them, some are just going to catch everything! Hope the dogs heal up fast for you.
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LTcaughthog
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 09:46:13 am » |
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Truth is it's an bigger pig who knows the game and knows what he's doing it doesn't matter if you had loose dogs or rough dogs he knew where he was going. If your gonna have rough dogs then go rough too have them too back each other up. If your gonna go loose then go loose and have some solid CDs either way where they caught you were probably gonna have a dog get cut. Briars are some hard number 2 for dogs too work in. But hope the dogs heal up well glad to see your young dog doing so well. KevinN tells me y'all some good people with good dogs so good luck with recovery and keep it up.
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Bowhunter1994
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2014, 10:53:42 am » |
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run two dogs at a time, hopfully that dog learns to bay! I dont like rough dogs for that reason, you never know when a bad boar will catch up with him.. he is doing very good for such a young dog!
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If you cant hang with the big dogs STAY ON THE PORCH.
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ChanceandAnita
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2014, 02:16:02 pm » |
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Thanks for everyone's advice, dogs are healing up good jus gonna make a couple changes hunting. Im going to try not to run certain dogs together. This should make him back off to bay if not looks like I will have jus another ruff cur. Not my plans for him , so will see, of he has any brains at all.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2014, 04:00:34 pm » |
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Get moee rough dogs or get rid of him
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Blake F
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2014, 09:42:07 am » |
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Take the vest of of your young dogs unless you WANT them to be rough......
Will they get cut a few times? Maybe
Will they get killed? Maybe
Will you spend more time hunting them and not stapling them up and waiting on them to heal between hunts when they get a few hunts in them? YES!
I also agree with the "less dogs on the ground" and I will add "less puppies on the ground". More dogs and for sure more puppies on the ground make dogs think they can handle it without you.
I definitely don't know it all, but I know that I have had the same staple gun with the same little strand of staples for about 2 years now. I hunt about once a week during summer and about 3 times a week during winter with no shut down for deer season.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2014, 01:30:53 pm » |
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Send Tank over here to Florida. He sounds like my kind of dog. Good hogs too
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2014, 05:56:08 pm » |
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Here's my take. I run rough as a cob dogs. In 3 years with these I had one wreck. I have a dog that will catch and hold as good as any bulldog. He is on the ground all the time. I have a gyp that holds very well to the point of needing a break stick. The other 3 will latch on but not as good as the first 2. The only wreck I had was when the one dog caught a 392pound boar alone with no back up. If u gonna run rough dogs u have to have the ones that commit and won't turn loose. If they do that the rest will help stretch it. If they won't commit that exposes them to the danger zone while trying to get hold. In a spot like u were in it could turn ugly with any type dog unless it bayed from 30 feet . Tight quarters are always trouble. That hog will back in them briars and only leave the barrel sticking out. That puts the dogs in a bad spot.
Hope ur dogs get healed soon.
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