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« on: September 29, 2014, 03:24:02 pm »

I know this topic has been beat to death probably but i wanna c more recent thoughts. This is how i consider a dogs huntn range and wish everyone else would too gets kinda aggravating esp if ur tryn to buy a started dog. I will start off sayn what my one and only strike dog at this time is. she is very short ranged to me which to me means if we r just riding or walkn around for the most part she stays within sight 100yrds or less. Now when she winds one or gets on a track she is gone however far it is to the hog unless she is unable to work it out. I think some ppl esp tryn to sell dogs refer to this as their "hunting range" . , which to me is not. I dnt wanna hear a dogs range refered to as when they are on a track or how far they go with another dog. I wanna know how said dog hunts on its own and their range is how far they run around checking for sign "not when they are on it" ! Does anyone else feel this way?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 06:38:40 pm »

Well all my dogs find pigs. I own 4 dogs and a few puppies don't need 30 dogs to find pigs. There range is first my main dog she is med to me 300-700 consistently every time I hunt. Second he ranges 200-400 by himself. Third she more of a hood but has started hunting 400yds steady. Last well he's my catch dog but if I let him he averages 500. With that said yes these dogs have been miles out there but yardage wise that's what they hunt usually before they get on it where I hunt.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2014, 06:48:30 pm »

Slckhunter you bout summed it up.  Range don't bother me to much as long as they are busy mine range bout 0 to where the pigs are. Range is way over rated you shouldn't ask how far they go on a regular basis you ask how often do they find pigs when there isn't much around before any one gets crazy I do understand range and what it does.  I can vouch for ferris dogs they pretty dang good
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2014, 07:33:15 pm »

Hey im new to this sight but just thought I would comment. I like a dog to hunt and not under my feet but as long as they are staying busy i can work around how far they are ranging most of the time. However I wish that something could be posted somewhere that everyone agrees on as far as range is concerned and if there is let me know lol. I know everybody's idea of short range or long range is different but I just bought a dog that was suppose to long range and I took him on trial and I could see the dog the whole time we were hunting. Now im stuck with a dog that doesn't really suit me bc got the run around on bringing him back which is another story for another time lol. Just would be nice if everybody was on the same page  Grin I agree with you guys though a dogs range should be how far they go looking for sign or pigs not how far they take a track.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 08:33:17 pm »

Thanks Judgepeel my dogs do have bad days also. But for the most part there consistent.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 09:09:46 pm »

Hey im new to this sight but just thought I would comment. I like a dog to hunt and not under my feet but as long as they are staying busy i can work around how far they are ranging most of the time. However I wish that something could be posted somewhere that everyone agrees on as far as range is concerned and if there is let me know lol. I know everybody's idea of short range or long range is different but I just bought a dog that was suppose to long range and I took him on trial and I could see the dog the whole time we were hunting. Now im stuck with a dog that doesn't really suit me bc got the run around on bringing him back which is another story for another time lol. Just would be nice if everybody was on the same page  Grin I agree with you guys though a dogs range should be how far they go looking for sign or pigs not how far they take a track.

It doesn't matter if it was outlined in the dictionary. A dog peddler went at it to screw you , and told you what you wanted to hear, and got the job done. It's ashamed it happens as much as it does .
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2014, 10:06:14 pm »

If everybody would quit getting hung up on range and breed for really good find dogs that hunt hard, the hunting dog world would be a better place. Instead of asking how far they hunt, grill them about how good a find dog it is. I've seen some great find dogs in all ranges. Like my Dad allways said, from the length of a corn cob 'till they droped dead.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2014, 10:16:29 pm »

Bigo that's what I like.  a dog don't have to be long range to be a good dog. The only differents between short and long range dogs is the distance from you to them. I have seen short range dogs out strike longer range dogs more than I seen long over short but I dong hunt with many long long range dogs ether
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2014, 04:29:16 am »

Very true Yall! Consistency and steady, fast hunting speed will find hogs fast!   I walk hunt so I like the dogs to be short to med range and property's i hunt are better fit for shorter to medium range dogs.  How i judge range is when i cast my dogs I take a note on how far he is really averaging on what he does after the first cast In No sign.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 04:44:36 am »

A friend of mine used to have a name for those dogs that hunt pretty hard that very seldom found game for the amount of hunt they had...brush beaters...

the ability to find game is a quality that should be bred for...just like Bigo said...
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 10:32:19 am »

Yeh i like all that. Just would b nice if all would b on the same page. Not in the market for buying one right now between mine and my buddys dogs we do pretty good. However i do still ask q's when i see dogs come up that they make sound too good to b true. I like to know who the peddlers are  Wink
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 12:01:29 pm »

Personally I'd rather have a dog go hunt and find pigs than shine my boots till we run over one. Jmo
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 12:03:29 pm »

I agree Slck I do the same thing. But you know the more you expose these people the better off the dog trade is. There is nothing wrong with buying selling or trading dogs it has been going on for decades . My grandfather and his grandfather bought sold and traded dogs and I know the majority of you guys and family history has done as well.  
Sorry to be brutal but the way I was brought up if the dog didn't hunt then the dog didn't live. No matter if you got screwed or not. I have bought dogs for to much money in the past and hunted them and thought to myself " dang I got screwed" oh well where is my pistol?  I'm not going to sell the dog to someone else that's why junk continues to breed.
I've learned if I don't know the person well enough that he will let me take the dog huntin before money is exchanged then I don't buy it.

All i need is dogs that stay busy huntin . Ta hell with range.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 12:07:41 pm »

One good thing bout those boot shiners is when you get done hunting you can go dancing
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 12:15:47 pm »

Lol Judgepeel.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2014, 09:51:28 pm »

As far as cur dogs go, they can be the most long range, fastest track dogs on the planet, but if they don't attempt to "stop" and square the hog up from the front once they get there, they ain't worth a piss in my opinion. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2014, 04:42:27 am »

As far as cur dogs go, they can be the most long range, fastest track dogs on the planet, but if they don't attempt to "stop" and square the hog up from the front once they get there, they ain't worth a piss in my opinion. Wink

amen to that...
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2014, 08:58:23 am »

Here we go with that cur dog crap again. Cur can do this and that come start living reality. Curs r good but there not the best. To some people they r cause they've never seen nothing better. Jmo
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2014, 12:57:25 pm »

Here we go with that cur dog crap again. Cur can do this and that come start living reality. Curs r good but there not the best. To some people they r cause they've never seen nothing better. Jmo
Amigo, my kin have been using cur dogs to scratch out a living in South/Central Florida for better than 150 years. Our family tree is fully "rooted" in reality. How long ya'll been here.  Don't recall mentioning anything about cur dogs being the best and for the record, I personally wouldn't feed one that was long range.  Mine are close range, work off my command. and I'm a good enough woodsman to get them close enough to strike whatever is being worked that day Wink
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2014, 01:27:28 pm »

Most people that grow up with working stock dogs are refering to a type and style of dog when they say cur not any particular breed or color. The best way for a dog to stop any animal is to get to the front of them and square up in front of the animal.
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