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hoghunter71409
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« on: February 08, 2015, 06:35:00 pm »

I've never gave a lot of thought to this question, but after today, I'm second guessing myself.

This morning my dog and a friend's dog are bayed 750 yds in a big creek.  While going to the bay, we cross several small creeks.  The hog is bayed in a big wide creek in water about knee high.  I knew it was a real good hog based on the track we put on.  So, I lead my bulldog to the creek and I notice the creek is about 30' wide from top of the bank to top of the bank and the drop off is pretty much straight down 8-12 feet in most places.

As I looked over the edge of the bank I see the big hog standing in the water facing towards me.

The choice is to let the bulldog go or try to go up/down the creek and find a place to get the bulldog in the creek.  We had already made enough noise  getting to the bay and I was very worried about the hog breaking if I waited much longer.  I unsnap the bulldog and he goes down the bank and makes a splash when he hits the water.  The splash makes the hog come right towards me and the hog is trying to get out of the creek.  This all happened so fast.  The hog spins away and goes up the other side and the bulldog lunges to catch and misses.....

So the question is...what is the better option?  Dog going straight down or trying to get the dog in either up or down the creek to put the dog and hog on the same level.

Remember, this is a lead in catch dog that is turned loose right at the bay.

In most cases, and depending on the creek (width and depth) I try to get the dog in the easiest position to go right to the hog.  In this case, there was no easy option and I wasn't going to get denied the option of unsnapping the bulldog.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 06:52:05 pm »

I run into this a lot no right or wrong I guess just depends on the terrain but the creeks I hunt on have high banks and can be deep so dogs drowning is a concern. It helps knowing these areas best you can I try to let my catch dog go from further back some times it works great some times it don't. But more times than not I roll the dice when most don't I don't know if I am good at winging it or just dang lucky lol
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 07:33:45 pm »

I always try to get the bulldog down in the creek bed before turning it loose.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2015, 01:41:29 pm »

I am like Judge,  When I get with in 100 yards or so I turn the catch dogs loose.  I know some dont like this and maybe I dont have a good handle on the catch dogs but there aint nothing I hate more than leading a dog through the woods that wants to be on the hog and they end up dragging me in there and we make more racket than is needed.  I have even let the bulldogs go from 300 + yards depending on terrain.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 06:46:19 pm »

I don't like the bulldog running in head on if I can see the hog. I like to be as close as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 07:45:50 pm »

I have seen more hogs break from trying to get to close. I think if the catch dog is already in route the initial burst of all out has slowed down and in cruser mode. But most of the time I cut mine it's a caught hog any way
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 12:28:03 pm »

You gotta do what ya gotta do. I like to get as close as possible but also as quiet as possible. Im another one that has a bulldog that gets all stupid and over excited when he realizes theres a bay goin on. All that pulling and choking and hacking on the way to the bay tends to wear his dumb @$$ out if i dont cut him loose. But i like to be in behind him asap. Bottom line is i think different situations call for different actions.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 12:44:55 pm »

Mine is cool as a ice pop till I unsnap him then he is special ops
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2015, 12:47:16 pm »

You gotta do what ya gotta do. I like to get as close as possible but also as quiet as possible. Im another one that has a bulldog that gets all stupid and over excited when he realizes theres a bay goin on. All that pulling and choking and hacking on the way to the bay tends to wear his dumb @$$ out if i dont cut him loose. But i like to be in behind him asap. Bottom line is i think different situations call for different actions.

This is where I am at.  Although my bulldog wont say a peep, I like to get as close as I can to see what I'm catching.  Unfortunately in this situation, the dog was released almost straight overhead of the hog and it just made for a very difficult sitation.  Thanks for the feedback to all, it makes me fell a little easier knowing that others face the same encounters sometimes.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2015, 12:59:06 pm »

Nothing is ever perfect I send the bulldog from when I fell like I need to some times it's close some times it's far most don't hunt like I do I don't really care what kind of hog is bayed I will send them to but the terrain is more of a cation to me knowing where your at is probly the best determine factor
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2015, 05:51:28 pm »

Well,

Almost one week later and about 800 yds from last week it happened again; dogs bayed in the same creek.  This time the outcome was a bit different!

I had about 430 yds to replay what happened last week, the memory of the hog slipping away was all over my mind.  This time when I get to the bay I looked off the edge of the creek bank and I see the same thing, 15 ft straight down except this time  the hogs back end was facing me and there were fallen logs crossing the creek.  Unfortunately, this hog was probably 50-100 lbs less than the hog last week.  I looked on the other side of the creek and I noticed just around the bend of the creek was a gradual slope instead of the straight down bank.

I took the bulldog and circled around, keeping my fingers crossed that the hog would not break;  I wasn't sure if what I was doing was right, but I wasn't going to make the same mistake as last week.  This time the water about waste-chest deep.  I get the dog down the steep bank on this side of the creek and cross the creek to the other side.  Just around the bend of the creek the hog is still bayed.  I make my way up the other side of the creek bank and unsnap the dogo.  It didn't take a second and the fight was on!

As I slide down into creek to leg the hog, the hog turns away from me and tries swimming to the other side with my bulldog on his ear.  About that time my buddies bulldog gets there and the hog and both dogs go under.  I was able to leg the hog and get somewhat close to the bank.  It was all history from there.

I know one thing, them dogs look great baying in the middle of a big creek, but it sure isn't easy to leg one and get them flipped on a muddy creek bank.






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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2015, 06:25:05 pm »

Heckuva deal, works every time... well, almost every time!
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