Catch dog teeth setting???

[liefalwepon]

Hey everyone, kinda new on here. been reading as many old posts as possible to learn more about how to do things the right way and there have been a few posts where people mentioned letting a catch dogs teeth set before hunting them. waiting til a year to a year and a half seemed to be the concensus. Whats up with this? No one in my area does this. People wait for dogs to mature emotionally and get strong but ive never heard of this teeth set thing. what can happen if you dont wait? can they loose teeth or damage them some how? Please enlighten me.

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I am one who learned the hard way. I cought a big hog with my 8 month old bulldog. I had all the confidence in the world in him and by far for a young dog he did a great job. He slammed the side of the head and never let go. He took a decent cut on the shoulder and never even thought about it. But after we got the hog loaded and i gave the dog the once over his cut was very minor compared to what i thought it was. But he was missing a canine tooth up top. I didnt know about this either until i had what i consider a pup get a tooth knocked out.

[Shotgun wg]

A dogs teeth take a while to firm up in the jaw when they get their adult teeth. They are kinda loose in the sockets to speak. Too much stress on them will cause them to be pulled out or broken. This may happen on the first big hog it may take a year. Either way just generally not recommended to let them catch anything much bigger than themselves till over a year old.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[Scott]

I usually start them in the woods between 8 months and a year depending on the time of year. As far as canines go...I don't think it matters much if they have them or not when it comes to catching. The canines weren't designed for holding...if I'm not mistaken, they were designed for tearing. The 2 bulldogs in this pic have full mouth bites...it wasn't the canines that were responsible for catching this hog.

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I usually start them in the woods between 8 months and a year depending on the time of year. As far as canines go...I don't think it matters much if they have them or not when it comes to catching. The canines weren't designed for holding...if I'm not mistaken, they were designed for tearing. The 2 bulldogs in this pic have full mouth bites...it wasn't the canines that were responsible for catching this hog.

AWESOME PICTURE !!

[justincorbell]

I usually start them in the woods between 8 months and a year depending on the time of year. As far as canines go...I don't think it matters much if they have them or not when it comes to catching. The canines weren't designed for holding...if I'm not mistaken, they were designed for tearing. The 2 bulldogs in this pic have full mouth bites...it wasn't the canines that were responsible for catching this hog.


Scott is right, the canines are not the teeth that a dog relies on to hold however like shotgun said the canines are not fully set and you can risk damaging the dogs gums/mouth. I wouldnt be worrying about the dog holding a hog as much as i would be worried about long term damage to his mouth.

[liefalwepon]

Thanks for the clarification. I have a dogoxpitxgh thats just over a year hes only been on half a dozen hogs in the last four months or so. I noticed the other day that one of his larger rear teeth had like a pocket in between it and the gum, almost like it was pulled out a bit. I examined his teeth because he chewed through his cable tie out, (must be why people use chain) so it could have been from that to. I aslo have a six month old AB and I want to start him out right and not F him up due to impatience. I was at a hog tournament weigh in today and there was a young pit with one tooth that popped out and the other ripped out the side of the gum, it had only been on three hogs ever the guy said. he also said the dog was done, which I guess is not true if they catch with a full bite.

[Shotgun wg]

They do catch full bite. Seen a lot retired or put down due to lost K9. I have one right now that I got second hand due to lost K9. She still catches. Impatience has cost a many good dog.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[Hutch33]

Its possible to teach a young dog bite skills, we do it with our military pups bcuz they don't want them losing teeth.  Work one on one with your pup by playing tug with a rag or hide by holding it in a horizontal line, when they use their back teeth to grip praise them and play.  If they use their front teeth take it out and reset it in the back. They'll catch on, just takes time and patience.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

I'll be the odd ball here and express that a dog's canines do indeed play an integral role in the act of holding. Generally, a dogs canines are for holding/anchoring, incisors for tearing, and molars for crushing bone. Can a dog catch without canines? Sure. But do canines play a large role in holding prey? Absolutely. If you look at the anatomy of the dog bite, the canines make contact first, before the dog closes his mouth completely, thus 'anchoring' the hold. Canines are there for a good reason.

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I'll be the odd ball here and express that a dog's canines do indeed play an integral role in the act of holding. Generally, a dogs canines are for holding/anchoring, incisors for tearing, and molars for crushing bone. Can a dog catch without canines? Sure. But do canines play a large role in holding prey? Absolutely. If you look at the anatomy of the dog bite, the canines make contact first, before the dog closes his mouth completely, thus 'anchoring' the hold. Canines are there for a good reason.

im no expert but im with you. I believe a dog will hold with the rear teeth. (Whatever there called) but the canine teeth or whatever the long ones are called lol play a big part of catching a hog. I've said it before... say the hog breaks right as the cd gets there and the cd just happens to be a little faster than the hog and is able to run him/her down. I bet the dog is biting at the hog trying to get him stopped and those canines are playing a huge role in that situation.

[justincorbell]

I'm not arguing in the least bit that canines play a role in catching hogs however I can say (with experience) that a dog can have 1 out of 4 canines and still effectively catch hogs......lots of em  .............. I think about it like this....... I know how bad having a tooth ache or exposed nerve hurts, last one I had hurt so bad I didn't even want to eat much less move........if it hurts us that bad then I know it doesn't feel good for a dog either.......thats pretty much why I wait til my cd's are grown or at least close to it anyhow.