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« on: March 10, 2015, 11:18:49 pm »

So i bought a pair of dogo pups from a fella when they were bout 5 months old and raised them up to catching age and got them started catching very good well enough that i have been just taking those two on some hunts and they are doing great but one started coming up with a rash on its belly and it grew a little bit over time so i took it to the vet and they said its hereditary mange and is treatable.  so i have been doing what the vet said and trying to stay on top of this but the mange has sure taking off and covering most of her underside now.  does anyone know a good treatment for this or if there is anything to do some people have told me that now she has it and will always have it there is noting i can do
  thanks God Bless and happy hunting -kyler
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2015, 09:31:39 am »

 From personal experience I can say that it is one of the most time consuming treatments. Demodectic mange or red mange is a pain in the a$$ to get rid of. Once you have treated it , it is suppose to stay gone and not come back. It can be localized , generalized and in the paws of the dog. The good thing is its treatable and doesn't spread to other dogs. In younger dogs it means that they inherently have a immature immune system. In older dogs it could be a result to liver failure or cancer. Never had to deal with it in older dogs. Having a litter that is tightly bred can result in the immature immune systems - this is what I had to deal with. The treatment can be costly because you are using Ivomect daily. Depending on the weight is of course how much you administer. I was using 1CC daily for right about a month, maby a little longer. Also I am by no means a DVM so with that being said i'm not telling you what to do or what to use. Just the treatment I went by and used. Just make sure you follow thru with it and don't skip a day. Good luck - J.D. King
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2015, 11:04:57 am »

I'm treating one right now....that has localized Demodex. A five month old pup that I got from an outside source. The ivomec dose is a tenth of a cc per pound, once a day, for sixty days. Did they do a skin scraping on your pup to confirm Demodex mites? I had a pup a while back that had a contact allergy on her tummy that made her lose hair on her underbelly.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2015, 11:06:09 am »

Correction: the dose is a tent of a cc per TEN pounds,
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2015, 12:25:01 pm »

It's basicMy a screwed up immune system. Whenever the dog gets stressed, there's a chance it will come back. I would also consider that a serious enough genetic issue to take those lines out of the breeding gene pool,, not saying cull them, just don't breed them
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2015, 12:37:57 pm »

Iv had two dogs treated for red mange one was a Parker dog and the other was a pit my vet gave them one shot a week for six weeks never had a problem since he told me a bunch of dogs have it there whole live but never shows first shot was 100$ then 20$ a week after that well worth the money too me
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2015, 07:10:02 pm »

I've had a few dogs over the years with demodex. ivomect is the treatment I used also corn can cause outbreak it's expensive to feed food free of corn but I had a few bulldogs that couldn't eat it looked like crap after one bag of feed with corn.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2015, 09:58:52 pm »

Thanks everyone for ur replies and I will start her on Ivomic daily tomorrow and see where it gets me and yes mrs Louisiana hog dog they did a skin scrape and said it was, I'll let yall know if it works or not in a month or so thanks again
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 08:16:16 am »

nustock will help the hair regrow give antibiotics and keep clean till you see a difference I have had a few pitbull pups have it over the years I have been raising them like stated above at least it doesn't spread to other dogs and usually it comes from mom
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 02:25:38 pm »

Currently dealing with this in a about a 11 month old male Dogo rescue we have.  Noticed two little sores on his cheeks, almost like a cut, I was doctoring it up like a wound but it just would not heal. Been giving grain free food and coconut oil so all the dogs look awesome except him. Then noticed his belly turning a red color.  It drastically got worse in the passed 2 wks so I took him to the vet and did a skin scrape to find mites.  I am going to drop him off for a mitaban dip next wk to kill the mites, but I also have started giving him the antibiotic Proxetil and the steroid Prednisone.  In the short amount of time I have been giving him the medicine he's already looking better.  Honestly rather this than some unknown allergy he has his whole life. Might want to call your vet and ask for a script to get it knocked out.  Good luck! Skin issues are a pain.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2015, 04:20:42 pm »

I had a pup come up with it.  I changed its diet some and fed a bunch of raw to boost its immune system, and gave him colostrum with every meal and dusted him, his pen and most of the yard with diatomaceous earth, Its a brown powder from tractor supply like ten bucks for 30 pounds or something.  He cleared up in a week or two.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2015, 10:57:43 pm »

I had a blue pit female that wld get it every time she cycled I used dectomax injectable for cattle cleared it right up I'm not a vet but it worked for me dectomax is deadly in some breeds an dogs same as ivermectin so use carefully
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2015, 07:40:17 am »

Back in the days before Ivomec, we used a mixture of old burnt motor oil, the blacker the better, and sulfur.  Mix them together and either dip the dog in it or sponge it on, covering the dog completely except for the eyes. As we understood it, the Red Mange was caused by the Red Mite which burrows just under the skin of the dog. Insects breathe through their exoskeleton, the burnt motor oil coated the  exoskeleton of the mite, thus preventing it from breathing and suffocating it. I'm not real sure what the sulfur had to do with it, but that's what all the old timers said to do, so we did it. Never had this not work to get rid of the Red Mange.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2015, 02:03:52 pm »

I give my dogs a cc of dectomax in the hip at the first sign of hair loss along with veterycn gel on the area. I had some bulldogs that did it and that cleared them up within a few days. Another hunter had their littermate and she did the same thing he went to the vet and tried their treatment and took his twice as long to heal and cost twice as much. Not saying my way was better but I call it like I see it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2015, 02:07:39 pm »

Joe I've used the same remedy several times and it really works. When I was in high school I had a cur dog lose all of its hair. My dad told me about that mix and it worked awesome, I made it into a thick paste and coated his body with it, the sulfur is for the fungal infections .
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2015, 03:10:59 pm »

Back in the days before Ivomec, we used a mixture of old burnt motor oil, the blacker the better, and sulfur.  Mix them together and either dip the dog in it or sponge it on, covering the dog completely except for the eyes. As we understood it, the Red Mange was caused by the Red Mite which burrows just under the skin of the dog. Insects breathe through their exoskeleton, the burnt motor oil coated the  exoskeleton of the mite, thus preventing it from breathing and suffocating it. I'm not real sure what the sulfur had to do with it, but that's what all the old timers said to do, so we did it. Never had this not work to get rid of the Red Mange.

x2...but back in the 1980's I was given a recipe by a breeder that sold the large type Airedales...used it for a while and it worked...it was 1 pint of mineral oil and a cup of malathion 50 and poor an inch of refined sulfur in the bottle and shake it up and rub in to the dogs coat...

now I use 1 cc of ivomec under the skin for a 50 pound dog and do that once a week for 3 weeks...kills ear mites and mange mites...I like easy...
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