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« on: April 19, 2015, 12:05:38 pm »

after the accident that KevinN went through I thought it would be a good idea to share some of ours...not just near misses but accidents as well when hunting...

I have had a few near misses driving off in a deep canal with my 4 wheeler...actually twice but didn't get hurt on either...

another time it was pitch dark about 11 pm...the dogs had caught a good sized boar and the hog went for a swim in the Brazos river...the dogs got him back to the bank and we caught him...we decided to leave him there on account the bank was very steep and probably about ~18 ft down...we called the dogs off and they came up the bank and we started back to the wheelers...one of my young pups stayed baying the dead hog...I thought for a minute and decided to get the pup now and not come back later for him...

I got back close to the bank so I thought...found myself a nice piece of a wood and the plan was to hurl it into the water as I hollered at the pup to get out...to really get that branch into the water I took a big step forward to propel it out into the water...I fully was expecting to step on firm ground but instead I went straight down...I am a pretty good thinker in the middle of things when they go bad...but pitch dark and not knowing what was below did not allow for any type of maneuvering...luckily I landed on my back down below and it was somewhat muddy sand...I did get a severe headache and I just thank the good lord I didn't break my back or neck in the deal...

I have heard of severe accidents where folks have been killed or hurt pretty bad on 4 wheelers...anyone have some first hand experiences we can learn from?
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 12:56:37 pm »

Had an incident with a wheeler and riding double. We were coming back through the same ditch we had went through a few hrs earlier, but didnt cross in the exact same spot. Instead of me getting off, which i started to but the driver said no need, i stayed on. He proceeded into the ditch, which wasnt real deep (bout 3' deep and 3' across) but deeper than we thought. He accelerates going in and as we hit the other bank, the wheeler flips on its back with both of us pinned under it and under water. Luckily 3 other guys were on the other side waiting for us and it wasnt but a few sec under water (cold ass water on top of that) and the wheeler was off us and being drug on to the bank. The driver and i jumped out of the water and climbed out.
I guess the moral to this is, go with your first instinct when u think some bad may go wrong, and any time crossing a water source of unknown depth and riding double, the pax should get off and let the driver go at it alone. In our circcumstance, if nobody eles would hav been there, we might have drowned, but if i would have gotten off, the wheeler wouldnt have had a severe aft cg and the driver could have possibly made it and i wade across, or if the same thing still happened, i could have use the bank to get the extra leverage the orhef guys had and possibly got the wheeler off the other guy.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 02:13:13 pm »

We were shining a tree one night and my buddy was walking backwards and looking up. He fell off a pretty high bank down into the creek. Broke a couple of ribs. If the bottom wasn't muddy i know it would have been alot worse on him. Another hunt we were on, we were on foot hauling butt to the bay. This girl that was with us was in front of me. She's a hardcore hunter with her own dogs and stuff. Well we were tearing through a briar infested thicket about as fast as we could go and all of a sudden she said "oh $h!t" and disappeared at the same time. She had fell/slid down a pretty high bank. She was fine though. Another time we were hunting and i stepped on a rattle snake. He or she was stretched out and i realized what happend when it coiled up under my foot ready to bite me. I had snake boots on but it never had a chance to strike. That sucker never even rattled until i stepped on it. I guess the moral to these stories is, do like your mama and daddy said and watch where your going...lol...
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 02:41:45 pm »

This is a lil different type close call. A couple years back I was down with a green very eager catchdog and we crossed a big pasture to get to a couple of young dogs baying just inside a woodline. Fella I was hunting with turned his old CD gyp in and said to send mine. As soon as they were turned loose a 2000# bull come busting out of the brush. His gyp come out with a look of confusion on her mine come out on a dead run for that bull. Luckily he went right by my partner who made a saving tackle to stop him. Thought I was gonna see a trainwreck on that one!
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 03:18:58 pm »

Had an incident with a wheeler and riding double. We were coming back through the same ditch we had went through a few hrs earlier, but didnt cross in the exact same spot. Instead of me getting off, which i started to but the driver said no need, i stayed on. He proceeded into the ditch, which wasnt real deep (bout 3' deep and 3' across) but deeper than we thought. He accelerates going in and as we hit the other bank, the wheeler flips on its back with both of us pinned under it and under water. Luckily 3 other guys were on the other side waiting for us and it wasnt but a few sec under water (cold ass water on top of that) and the wheeler was off us and being drug on to the bank. The driver and i jumped out of the water and climbed out.
I guess the moral to this is, go with your first instinct when u think some bad may go wrong, and any time crossing a water source of unknown depth and riding double, the pax should get off and let the driver go at it alone. In our circcumstance, if nobody eles would hav been there, we might have drowned, but if i would have gotten off, the wheeler wouldnt have had a severe aft cg and the driver could have possibly made it uwpppy yy the accident that KevinN went through I thought it would be a good idea to share some of ours...not just near misses but accidents as well when hunting...

I have had a few near misses driving off in a deep canal with my 4 wheeler...actually twice but didn't get hurt on either...

another time it was pitch dark about 11 pm...the dogs had caught a good sized boar and the hog went for a swim in the Brazos river...the dogs got him back to the bank and we caught him...we decided to leave him there on account the bank was very steep and probably about ~18 ft down...we called the dogs off and they came up the bank and we started back to the wheelers...one of my young pups stayed baying the dead hog...I thought for a minute and decided to get the pup now and not come back later for him...

I got back close to the bank so I thought...found myself a nice piece of a wood and the plan was to hurl it into the water as I hollered at the pup to get out...to really get that branch into the water I took a big step forward to propel it out into the water...I fully was expecting to step on firm ground but instead I went straight down...I am a pretty good thinker in the middle of things when they go bad...but pitch dark and not knowing what was below did not allow for any type of maneuvering...luckily I landed on my back down below and it was somewhat muddy sand...I did get a severe headache and I just thank the good lord I didn't break my back or neck in the deal...

I have heard of severe accidents where folks have been killed or hurt pretty bad on 4 wheelers...anyone have some first hand experiences we can learn from?

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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 03:18:58 pm »

Had an incident with a wheeler and riding double. We were coming back through the same ditch we had went through a few hrs earlier, but didnt cross in the exact same spot. Instead of me getting off, which i started to but the driver said no need, i stayed on. He proceeded into the ditch, which wasnt real deep (bout 3' deep and 3' across) but deeper than we thought. He accelerates going in and as we hit the other bank, the wheeler flips on its back with both of us pinned under it and under water. Luckily 3 other guys were on the other side waiting for us and it wasnt but a few sec under water (cold ass water on top of that) and the wheeler was off us and being drug on to the bank. The driver and i jumped out of the water and climbed out.
I guess the moral to this is, go with your first instinct when u think some bad may go wrong, and any time crossing a water source of unknown depth and riding double, the pax should get off and let the driver go at it alone. In our circcumstance, if nobody eles would hav been there, we might have drowned, but if i would have gotten off, the wheeler wouldnt have had a severe aft cg and the driver could have possibly made it uwpppy yy the accident that KevinN went through I thought it would be a good idea to share some of ours...not just near misses but accidents as well when hunting...

I have had a few near misses driving off in a deep canal with my 4 wheeler...actually twice but didn't get hurt on either...

another time it was pitch dark about 11 pm...the dogs had caught a good sized boar and the hog went for a swim in the Brazos river...the dogs got him back to the bank and we caught him...we decided to leave him there on account the bank was very steep and probably about ~18 ft down...we called the dogs off and they came up the bank and we started back to the wheelers...one of my young pups stayed baying the dead hog...I thought for a minute and decided to get the pup now and not come back later for him...

I got back close to the bank so I thought...found myself a nice piece of a wood and the plan was to hurl it into the water as I hollered at the pup to get out...to really get that branch into the water I took a big step forward to propel it out into the water...I fully was expecting to step on firm ground but instead I went straight down...I am a pretty good thinker in the middle of things when they go bad...but pitch dark and not knowing what was below did not allow for any type of maneuvering...luckily I landed on my back down below and it was somewhat muddy sand...I did get a severe headache and I just thank the good lord I didn't break my back or neck in the deal...

I have heard of severe accidents where folks have been killed or hurt pretty bad on 4 wheelers...anyone have some first hand experiences we can learn from?

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 03:18:59 pm »

Had an incident with a wheeler and riding double. We were coming back through the same ditch we had went through a few hrs earlier, but didnt cross in the exact same spot. Instead of me getting off, which i started to but the driver said no need, i stayed on. He proceeded into the ditch, which wasnt real deep (bout 3' deep and 3' across) but deeper than we thought. He accelerates going in and as we hit the other bank, the wheeler flips on its back with both of us pinned under it and under water. Luckily 3 other guys were on the other side waiting for us and it wasnt but a few sec under water (cold ass water on top of that) and the wheeler was off us and being drug on to the bank. The driver and i jumped out of the water and climbed out.
I guess the moral to this is, go with your first instinct when u think some bad may go wrong, and any time crossing a water source of unknown depth and riding double, the pax should get off and let the driver go at it alone. In our circcumstance, if nobody eles would hav been there, we might have drowned, but if i would have gotten off, the wheeler wouldnt have had a severe aft cg and the driver could htave possibly made it uwpppy yy the accident that KevinN went through I thought it would be a good idea to share some of ours...not just near misses but accidents as well when hunting...

I have had a few near misses driving off in a deep canal with my 4 wheeler...actually twice but didn't get hurt on either...

another time it was pitch dark about 11 pm...the dogs had caught a good sized boar and the hog went for a swim in the Brazos river...the dogs got him back to the bank and we caught him...we decided to leave him there on account the bank was very steep and probably about ~18 ft down...we called the dogs off and they came up the bank and we started back to the wheelers...one of my young pups stayed baying the dead hog...I thought for a minute and decided to get the pup now and not come back later for him...

I got back close to the bank so I thought...found myself a nice piece of a wood and the plan was to hurl it into the water as I hollered at the pup to get out...to really get that branch into the water I took a big step forward to propel it out into the water...I fully was expecting to step on firm ground but instead I went straight down...I am a pretty good thinker in the middle of things when they go bad...but pitch dark and not knowing what was below did not allow for any type of maneuvering...luckily I landed on my back down below and it was somewhat muddy sand...I did get a severe headache and I just thank the good lord I didn't break my back or neck in the deal...

I have heard of severe accidents where folks have been killed or hurt pretty bad on 4 wheelers...anyone have some first hand experiences we can learn from?

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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 03:25:01 pm »

Wayout...that old red catch dog you posted...I had one that looked just like him...he was one heck of a catch dog as well and from a long line of game dogs...I raised him from 8 weeks old so had a decent handle on him except I couldn't turn him and my lead strike dog loose together in the yard...

he was straight catch hogs only and could walk through cows without issue...until I went with an acquaintance on a hog hunt...he was trying out a new pack of dogs so I only brought along 2 strike dogs and my catch dog REDDOG...I turned my dogs loose as well as Reddog to empty out before put him back on the wheeler...We turned loose next to a herd of cows and I when I herd his dogs bay up solid...my first thought was those are some good dogs if they out struck my dogs that quickly...

I shined my light and those dogs were giving this cow heck and she was standing over her calf trying to protect it...I then tried to call Redman but it was too late... he was wide open to the bay...I hop on my wheeler and I can see him summersault  through the air and he is right back at her and she heads out at a dead run...he runs her down and latches on to an ear before I could get between them...the extra weight on the ear makes her veer off to the left in to a slew...
she is swinging him like a windshield wiper and everytime I try to get in and pull him off the cow charges me...my buddy shows up and says he is going to the truck and get a gun to shoot my dog...I said to bring a rope and I will rope him...on his way to the truck he has to go get on the dogs because they were chewing on that calf...

by time he got back the cow was worn down and I was able to pull Reddog off...I don't know how he came out ok because she was stomping on him with her front hooves...he did lose his top canines and he was never broke off of cows after that...shock collar didn't work...I gave him away after all that...I couldn't trust him around cattle...I have been out with other folks pitbulls and have seen some pretty awesome dogs take down some big cows...I have seen some things that I will not write about...but I will say I have the highest respect for the pitbulls abilities, courage and reckless abandon in getting the job done...
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 08:29:54 pm »

That dog that tried to get the bull was a nephew of the red dog. He didn't cut it as a catchdog cause he was so wired it was impossible to get a decent handle and he ended up getting one whole corner of his ivory yanked out. He never learned to go to the ear. I still got him but he is just a yard ornament now, but there are folks who want his blood and he may get bred but it won't be for my use.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2015, 11:49:01 pm »

Reuben I have a real similar story.I live in Florida and hunt the st.Johns rivers a lot and a lot of the places are huge cattle leases with some of the toughest cows on earth.My dogs are cow broke and catch hogs amongst them all the time but I brought a buddy of mine who is a part timer with a pack of #2 eaters.He really wanted to bring a dog and he swore he was cow broke.So we hit the bank and turned out I brought 2 cur dogs and 2 rcd pits he had his dog.soon as we dump my dogs strike and kill a small sow his dog was late to the show after that we walked for about 2 hours and no more action mine were beating the bush his stomping heals.Then I notice I'm not tripping over his dog and take notice on the Garmin he's 250and strokin I tell my Buddy look at this and when he hits 500 he starts baying I couldn't believe it.My bulldogs rocket to him and I hear a cow start bellowing.We take off running crossed a big pasture and they were in an island of thick woods when we're approaching the chaos my head lamp lights up more eyes than I ever seen in them woods and they're all running his dog is steadily chopping.Cows are pouring out on us I find and catch my curs Henry and Buck who were standing there confused then my bulldog Tucker who was doing the same all this is at full speed dodging stampeding cattle I finally find coco my other bulldog and he's got a full grown heifer down in a ditch and the herds taking shots at him I managed to get in and break him my Buddy still is chasing his coyote and the heard starts gathering and they're pissed.He finally gets his dog and we start trying to back out across the pasture but as soon as we hit the open the herd starts circling and taking shots at the leashed dogs we had to find a better way out so we retreat to the wooded island walking backwards and trying to not let them completely circle us.luckily I remember an old fence that splits the island and get across to safety.Let me tell you I grew up on a farm with cattle but I was truly concerned on getting trampled the heard had to be 200 strong.As for Coco he was sore but no major injury he hasn't looked at a cow since he got a stern talking to as soon as we crossed that fence.
 
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 10:45:29 am »

While hunting with djhogdoggers at one of their spots I had a buddy and his gf with us, they were riding my lil old honda 300 and he managed to dump it off into a deep ditch that the grass had grown over. we were night hunting and djhogdoggers were in front of us a couple hundred yards as we had just turned around, I looked back and my buddy had just flat out disappeared...... I hopped out of my buggy wondering what in the hell happened and could barely see lights, ran over to em and managed to pull the 4wheeler off of them, luckily there was not enough water in the ditch for them to be pinned underwater but they were pinned nevertheless. we got lucky, if that ditch had been full I don't know that they could have held their breath long enough for me to find and get to em to get the fourwheeler off of em. they both came out ok, a bit banged up but nothing serious. we were real lucky that it wasn't worse........the outcome could have been MUCH worse.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 04:35:53 pm »

Had some hog hunting buddies go to an island on the mississippi  river to catch the hogs off . They turned their find dogs out & they bayed in a willow thicket.They led their 2 bulldogs in.The willows were about 6feet high& so thick you had to chop/crawl to the bay.They got up close enough to see that they had a huge black "hog" bayed so they sent both catch dogs in.The bulldogs hit and there was a hell of a fight.They went in to catch the ,but the hog turned out to be a big black bear!!Every time the catch dogs got a hold,the bear would rake the dogs off with his front paws .My buddies were taking all this in from about 10 feet away in a thicket with not much of a way out.I think there was quite a discussion on how to catch  the bulldogs.The bear finally broke and made a hole out the other side.They finally caught the bull dogs  coming back after awhile. This is a true story that happened  in 2013.
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