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« on: July 05, 2015, 06:11:49 pm »

How many of yall have been affected from helicopter hunting? Just curious being from Alabama I don't have to worry about that over here but as much as I see it on tv I figured it's probably screwed some of yall up.....


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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 06:42:39 pm »

Ya a guy in my area runs one he has bout wiped out the pigs in some spots where I hunt. Makes it hard when you catch one or two and he pays the land owners to kill them and he gets 80 in one day


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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 07:58:16 pm »

I haven't directly but i know quite a few guys in my area that hunt rice and coastal fields that have seen a large decrease in number due to helicopters.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 09:15:38 pm »

They put the hurt on them here. , better have a dog that will get out and hunt now !
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 09:38:32 pm »

hope they don't get them all thinned down before i can get into the air. flying is a lot more fun than walking any ole day, plus getting paid on top of that. whats not to like about it as long as its done legally?
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2015, 10:00:44 pm »

Well from a hunters hobby point a view it would suck to have all the pigs killed from a farmers point a view it would be good lol.


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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 10:35:41 pm »

until the acft get mounted with high res flir, the thickets are safe. it is fun running dogs, but flying, well, its much better. ALL the pigs won't be killed off, there is no way, no how to kill every single pig. the smart ones will do are they are doing now, run when they here them blade beating the air into submission just as they do when they hear the first dog open up, head for thicker cover. only the strong one will survive no matter if its acft or dogs chasing them
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 10:55:58 pm »

I think it's kind of like the dog hunter vs the stand hunter that thinks a dog will run all the deer off. People who dont do it wont like it. I personally wouldn't like it in my area, but hey, its a legal means of hunting and a super effective way to help the land owners.  I think the choppers would eliminate way more hogs on average than I could with dogs and that sucks for me , but it's great for someone willing to pay good money to have hogs removed. But I can honestly say I would rather catch a hog with a bulldog hanging off his ear than shoot it from a helicopter.  That's just me though. To each there own.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 11:05:04 pm »

the best thing is bout shooting hogs from the air. they don't shoot back. i had plenty of that in iraq. dang stick wigglers won't listen and avoid an area, so they would fly us right into a wall of bullets and rpgs. now, screw that, id fly any shooter into a pack of anything that won't shoot back. already got 2 near misses in a heli, can't afford many more.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 11:28:08 pm »

Lol, I see your point charles. I can only imagine what that's like. Thanks for your service ! But still, I shoot deer with guns, catch hogs with dogs !!  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2015, 05:07:14 am »

Well i dont think there is a true dog man in this world that would approve of any animal to be chased from the air and shot! Just left to rot!!! The way your president is going you may one day wish you could find a hog to eat!
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2015, 07:40:29 am »

I've had the government boys come in and shoot them from helicopters where I hunt in years past.      They wipe them out for a few weeks but the ones outside the permitted shooting area " property line" soon start filtering in and filling the void.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2015, 07:41:21 am »

Well i dont think there is a true dog man in this world that would approve of any animal to be chased from the air and shot! Just left to rot!!! The way your president is going you may one day wish you could find a hog to eat!

He is your islamic president mr abdul barnes,  not mine. And the only thing ill agree with u on, is leaving them to rot. Some hav a cleaner crew to come and get the dead 1s and give them away, and some, well, they do leave them to rot. Who cares who approved of what? If u were doing ur job in the first place, the land owners wouldnt hav to call in another group to do something your evidently not qualified to handle. You sound more like an anti-hunter with that comment.
There is no sense in getting your thong wadded up. Since you must a TRUE dogman, you just need to get better at chasing them with dogs.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2015, 08:55:05 am »

As for eradicating the hogs the helicopter guys will beat a dog man at first but as the hogs learn not bust out of the brush his numbers will stop. The only way to get a certain hog is with dogs or trap. But for knocking the piss out of them heli guy is going to be on top. Now there ain't much game in it for a dog man or true hunter. Truly for guys that just want to kill or make or spend money. A lot of ranchers in my area that have felt with the heli hunter don't want them around I have heard a lot of bad stuff


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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 09:21:50 am »

Judge, thats because the dont obey the laws for trespassing, the fly to crazy and erratic and the fuys who are paying the $$$ to shoot dont have the training to shoot from a moving aerial platform, which is not easy. Which with piss poor piloting and trigger happy shooters, i can see why they are not well liked. As far as making $, you dang right, make it, as long as its done within the FARs and state and local laws. Iv run skid a few times in the army and its a blast, you should try it judge
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2015, 09:48:24 am »

I been on many a black hawk ride I have no desire what so ever to get on chopper hang from a harness with a automatic weapon shooting at a pig teach the pig to shoot and then you got my interest lol. It's just not what I want to do if I wanted to play like that I would have stayed in the army lol. My friend payed big money to do it said he had a good time I said good for you I don't see the big adventure in it


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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2015, 04:38:03 pm »

As for eradicating the hogs the helicopter guys will beat a dog man at first but as the hogs learn not bust out of the brush his numbers will stop. The only way to get a certain hog is with dogs or trap. But for knocking the piss out of them heli guy is going to be on top. Now there ain't much game in it for a dog man or true hunter. Truly for guys that just want to kill or make or spend money. A lot of ranchers in my area that have felt with the heli hunter don't want them around I have heard a lot of bad stuff


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I could very well be wrong (have been before)  but I don't think many hogs will hold up in a thicket if a chopper is hovering over it with all the trees, noise  and dirt blowing around I personally believe they  will panic and blast out of there. I don't knock a man for doing it long as it's legal but I think heli hunting will put a huge hurting on the dog hunters. Even if I could afford it I wouldn't do it. But I can see where some would get a big thrill out of it. Kinda like people who think riding a motorcycle is stupid, vs the guy who loves his bike so much he rides it year round.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2015, 05:43:31 pm »

Georgia, a former army friend flys them hunts and he said them hogs will burrow up in any kind of cover they can find, from briar patches to thick undergrowth in a tree line. He says they stay put as long as they hear him. He has ran his skids into briar patches to flush the hog/s out but doing that in 20-60' trees wont work. Trees and spinning blades dont react well with each other. They tend to bring the acft down un a ball of mangled metal
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2015, 06:11:17 pm »

Well good . We do have a chance..haha...are you saying if the chopper accidently hits a tree it will come down. Or do the trees create a bad Draft and cause a loss of lift and bring it down? Just curious. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2015, 08:15:03 pm »

could cause both. if the pilot has head up forth point of contact and hits the trees, it could do a sudden stoppage on the rotor system, which it comes down or the trees bust apart the rotor blades, it agains falls out of the sky. google blackhawk crashes into pine tree or something of that effect and it shows a 60 coming in hot, lands, bounces forward and cuts down a 6-8" pine top, and if its the original vid, it shows the damage after the rotors stop turning. the entire drivetrain has be gone through and a lot of chit replaced because he was show boating at some kind special event.
now, as far as trees disrupting the airflow, yes, its called settling with power. you have full power, but because you are recirculating "dirty air" your own vortices back into the rotor system, the blades eventually stall out bc they don't have "clean" semi-undisturbed air recalculating back into the rotors.
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