This time of the year?

[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

I usually don't hunt too much this time of the yr,  all my dogs are 4 and my old dog is 12.  Its hard on em and getting hard on me too,  .. But this summer I have done more huntin than normal and have seen some things that simply made me learn more than what I didn't know.  I run the cell phone cams on our lease and this allows me to see the exact time the hogs are there and send the pics to me instantly.  Well I live about 1 hr from the club so its not right around the corner, but in the winter I know for a fact that a 1 hour track is usually no problem with the dogs putting a hog at the end of it.  I can tell you that for my pack , this is not the case in the summer with the dry conditions and no dew on the ground.  I have put my dogs out at night and be 18 minutes after the hogs are there and  the dogs act like there wasn't a hog nowhere.  Now if I wouldn't know my dogs I would probably grab a pine knot and have a come to Jesus meetin but and Old man told me one time that when he use to trial coyote dogs in the summer, he would simply look for them to hunt ,,not catch a coyote,, just see how much hunt they had in em.  Cause he said if they hunt in this 90 degree heat , they will be all he needs come better weather.  Well I sent a buddy of mine to the lease the other morning cause I had to work all week, so he could try and catch these boars that were eating all the corn I had put out .. He made it to the corn pile with his dogs 4 minutes after the boar hog was smiling at the camera and his dogs didn't even run the hog.  Now this feller has hog dogs,, he culls hard and it made me learn something first hand that not only was my dogs stumped but others can be too in these conditions.  How many of yall have this problem , dealing with dry conditions  and heat temps up in the 100's in the day. 

[Pwilson_10]

I have that problem unless the grass is tall then I can run them on bare ground I don't think my dogs could run each other in this dry number 2 but I got the same kinda I want to ask to I got a buddy that has a corn field and its 75 acres and net wire and the farmer watched the hogs go in and patched the only hole in the fence were they were stuck in there and we had three dif guys including my self and my buddy bring dogs and not a one dog could smell them find them nothen we had to walk that hole thing and get the dogs to finally jump them up but still to this day have not caught one it's like they don't smell like a hog and are dogs can't run them can any body explain that We had a guy come that said he would catch them all in about and hour or two and there was 4 hogs in there all big hog no little ones and he hunted all night and never even got a bark it's like they have lost there hog smell there's a little water hole in it and the farmer walked in there really quit and shot every one of them but it made me and every one else feel really stupid has any one had this happen?


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[liefalwepon]

Those are some mysteries! What kind of dogs are you guys runnin? I wonder if a hound would do any better

[Judge peel]

Dry ground hot temps and that's how it goes


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[BA-IV]

This is a tough time of year for everyone, especially in the dry piney woods in my opinion. Hogs tend to walk a long ways for some reason, and they don't leave  a whole scent particles on the ground so it's nearly impossible for a dog to trail.  I think you can help one out by pushing em where you think the hogs are out, and they'll stumble on until they can get to a point where they can smell it alil. This is also where the exceptional dogs and really good dogs are separated in my opinion. I don't own either one so I'm always struggling!

[Pwilson_10]

Ya I run hounds that y he called me and I got some open ones that I dropped in the race to try and get the hogs to really run they run it from one end to the other burning it's ass up and then it's just quit I have tryed silent hounds here to and it sounds like bark bark hog runs to the other side and bark bark hog runs again and thes dogs start doing circles like the hog flew off no sent to be found right there it's weird as hell never had it happen before in none of are lives


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[Pwilson_10]

Quiet not quit


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[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

back in june, we made a round and end up catchin one of the biggest barrs I have ever seen as far as teeth goes.  We caught him and another boar that I cut and marked.  It was hot that morning , we had a dew that fell and I guess that morning the dogs were able to leave on the track cause the boar was right at 600 yards from us and when I released the dogs after I cut him, they went .62 and bayed the barr.  Its just amazing to me how Scent works and what works against it.  I have been hunting with dogs since I was a kid but it still lets u learn things that you didn't know before.  I run parker dogs and my ole Catahoula is still huntin hard for 12 yrs old.  Maybe with walker dogs it might be different in the summer but I have never hunted walkers except my deer dogs and we only hunted in the winter. Anybody that hunts hounds have any experience with them being able to run tracks in the summer like they do in the winter.  I have been considering getting a cold nose walker dog and see if he cant stir the pot with em and get em up and on their feet in the summer and maybe the hotter nosed dogs will pull to him and finish the track..

[Mike]

We've been seeing the same thing the past couple months... with both hounds and curs. I've been think the hogs were moving before the dew sets in and then the dew covers their scent. I need to set some cameras out... it would be nice to check dogs noses under different conditions.

[sterling]

Are you leading the dogs in from downwind? When I'm hunting hogs that are hitting feeders I always try to put the dogs where they can wind the hogs instead of trying to cut a track. They seem to get on the hogs quicker and shut them down quicker in my experience. Just a thought.

[l.h.cracker]

I don't hunt feeders or bait and we've been doing well this summer but the spots I hunt the wind always decides my approach.We choose a big loop to walk and put feet on the ground the curs I run beat the bush in no sign and have been getting it done with no problems that I've noticed.

[Judge peel]

Ya we don't hunt feeders for the most part ether I mean we hit a few but most of the spots I hunt the ranchers won't allow it. We ain't had much problem getting on them and stopping them 


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[Shotgun wg]

I have run my dogs year round. Wet cold or dry and hot. I have caught them in all conditions and I have struck out as well. The one day that if I had not known my dogs and what they would do my buddy and myself woulda culled 2 packs. Hot day on up in the morning. It was dry but they had been watering the crops. Well there was a chicken litter pile in a corner on low end of the field. It was wet. As we came around a point I could see 3 hogs in the litter. They got up and went west. Dogs were on the ground so we started pushin that way. Get to the pile my dogs act a lil piggy but not getting gone. We fooled around a while back and forth trying to pick them up. No such luck. Buddy put his dogs down with the same result. I honestly believe the litter was strong enough that it covered the scent. Either that or I missed a good chance to cull some dogs. During summer I try my best to stay near water. Seems I tend to have my best luck doing so.


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[liefalwepon]

Ya I run hounds that y he called me and I got some open ones that I dropped in the race to try and get the hogs to really run they run it from one end to the other burning it's ass up and then it's just quit I have tryed silent hounds here to and it sounds like bark bark hog runs to the other side and bark bark hog runs again and thes dogs start doing circles like the hog flew off no sent to be found right there it's weird as hell never had it happen before in none of are lives


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My buddy hunts hot weather and really dry ground, open country and the hogs dont leave much scent. He catches a lot of hogs. his strike dogs are rat terriers, they out strike all his hounds and curs in this type of condition, he says they are the best winding dogs he knows of. I didnt believe him, but maybe hes right, hes caught thousands of hogs...

[Jmesonp1]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that struggles in summer time. I know my dogs aren't that good but we still catch a few hogs. We catch way more in the winter months than summer though. I think its a combination of scent conditions and foliage conditions. Summer is so thick that even when the dogs are able to run the track decent the hogs hide in tall grass and thick brush. I've had lots of summer nights listening to them search for a hog in a 100 yard area. 3 barks and the pig will grunt and sprint to the other side. This goes on for an hour or so before I get frustrated and just pick them up. Maybe I just need rougher dogs. Maybe I need to go fishing in the summer.

[Slim9797]

I'm excited for this winter. We've caught a few this summer but few and far between and it's been the dogs busting their asses. Had a night a month and a half ago, hunting a ranch on the far side of a creek bed, right near the property line. Dogs ain't getting out to far and we were thinking about calling it for the night. Then 2 shots ring out from the next property over and I told my buddy "grab the dogs. We got to get out and make a call to the rancher." No sooner did I say that I hear crashing through the brush on the fence line in every which way. Turned to look and had a 100 lb hog running at me. So I drew my pistols and shot it about 6 times. Dogs got gone on another pig. Stayed with it for about 15 minutes trying to shut it down while we were talking to the rifle hunters from the other property. And the dogs started showing up one by one. Got them dogs back to where I had shot the pig (it kept running)  they were running on top of a blood trail like it wasn't there. This winter will be my first one with a full set of dogs so I'm excited. We have this ranch where they don't deer hunt so we will be running all winter

[K-Bar]

Here's another reason to re-consider summer hunting:

A woman who contracted a potentially deadly disease after unknowingly being bitten by a tick during a July vacation in northeast Oklahoma had to have her arms and legs amputated.

KOCO reported that Jo Rogers, 40, had her right leg amputated, her left leg amputated below the knee and her arms amputated below both elbows to stop the disease, called Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF), from spreading. Rogers was vacationing at Grand Lake o’ the Cherokees, a 46,500-acre lake in the foothills of the Ozark Mountain Range in northeast Oklahoma that is well known for its bass fishing.

Four days after returning from her vacation, Rogers thought she had a flu, but after her symptoms didn’t subside on the fifth day, she went to the hospital, where doctors tested her for West Nile virus and meningitis. Both tests came back negative.

"She was shaking her hands because they hurt, her feet hurt," Rogers’ cousin Lisa Morgan told KOCO. Rogers’ limbs turned black and blue. On the seventh day after her return, doctors found she had been bitten by a tick and infected with RMSF.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), symptoms of the disease start two to 14 days after the bite and include headache, fever, abdominal pain, vomiting, and muscle pain. Outpatient medication may help those treated early, while intravenous antibiotics, prolonged hospitalization or intensive care may be required for those with more severe cases.

Oklahoma is one of five states where the infection rate for the disease is three to 10 times the national average. But according to the Oklahoma State Department of Health, only 1 to 3 percent of the tick population is infected with the bacteria Rickettsia rickettsii (R. rickettsii), which causes RMSF. The tick most commonly associated with RMSF is the American dog tick, Dermacentor variabilis.

The Oklahoma State Department of Health estimates that 3 to 5 percent of people with RMSF die, but death is uncommon with immediate diagnosis and treatment.

Rogers' family has started a GoFundMe page to cover her increasing medical bills. They are focusing on helping the mother of two— her sons, ages 17 and 12— stay strong.

“You’re still with us,” Morgan said of her cousin. “You’re going to get to watch your boys grow up. You’ve got a lot of people pulling for you.”

[bigo]

If you have a dog that does a pretty good job in hot dry conditions, in this part of the country, he will be outstanding in the winter time.
     When a track is laid down in the dew and the suns hits it, it starts to evaporate and the sent evaporates with it. If a track is laid down on dry bare ground where there is no variation in humidity, the track will last a long time. That's how some of the old desert lion hunters could run tracks that were days old. When the Lee brothers went to hunt lion in Florida, they had trouble running some tracks because of the extreme fluctuations in humidity. They could run very old tracks at home in Arizona and Florida made them look bad.