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« Reply #140 on: October 02, 2015, 10:11:10 pm »

oh boy! here we go again! lol
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« Reply #141 on: October 02, 2015, 10:36:14 pm »

Instigator are we lol just kidding. Don't start no stuff won't be no stuff well that's what little John says. Bo that kinda dog is great to have if you have big property I do not I will be in trouble on most of my spots few not so much but I can see where that dog could be very valuable. In most cases I need to have them caught in under two miles as a straight line goes   


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« Reply #142 on: October 03, 2015, 08:27:51 am »

Well I hunted the river last night walked 7 miles and never saw a track zero fresh sign. Buck and Zeus hunted hard but you can't catch a ghost.The water is high and that in conjunction with the added pressure of deer season the few hogs on the 3000 acres are pushed to the neighboring property which I have no access to. This happens every deer season when it finally cools down the woods are crawling with people and come general gun, deer dogs as well.There are many places in Fl that are crawling with hogs and believe me I am on a constant quest to gain access to one of them but as of now my spots are not very good. We do have quota hunts that you can apply for like the one that TazD mentioned earlier some are better than others and I hunt a couple and usually do ok but these hunts can be very sketchy with scumbag thieves who ride around waiting to hear a hog bayed or caught and try to steal the hog or even worse your dogs and gear. This has happened to several of my friends.One buddies dog got kicked and her jaw was broken his son and his sons friend were beaten up and their hog was stolen.Even though I drew a good one this year I am very hesitant and believe that I am going to turn my permit in.I have no where to run a long range dog with endless bottom.I can appreciate one for sure just have absolutely no use for one at the moment.
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« Reply #143 on: October 03, 2015, 10:29:44 am »

Rednose I think I know who your getting that dog from he ain't but two hrs from me I would be more than happy to take you on a hunt. Not a lot of hogs on my spots the heli guy has pretty much wiped them out but there are some nice ones from time to time you can pm if your intrested.


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Thanks for the invite Judge it won't be for a couple of months but I would def like to take you up on that offer. To me it doesn't matter how many we catch if we catch any or not, I just like getting out there and doing it.  See how you do your thing and learning from it. We have to do things way different out here due to laws so I would really like to try the way you guys do things.
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« Reply #144 on: October 03, 2015, 11:26:49 am »

I don't like ruff dogs either, and I hate dogs that come back after a mile or two knowing they was to sorry to keep going. I usually feed them to the worms or whatever's around. I have 1 ruff dog as we speak and only reason I still do is because certain people at my house like him so he's here to stay and he won't bay a hog he's either caught or laid over in the grass wondering if it's going to be his last breath. But that's just what I like and don't like. Most around here hunt loose dogs so one ruff dogs usually gets all them wrecked if it's a bad hog or makes it break and just have to run it longer. Like someone said earlier in the post if I had to feed a dog that quit after a mile id buy me some fishing tackle. I like a dog that when you let it go it kicks rocks and goes hunting and don't look back. I got a dog named Ben now I been letting my buddy hunt for a while, he's got to where when you pull up on the fourwhweler to cut him off a track to go home he will go around you and this dogs daddy was like that, their kinda aggravating for most people but it's what I like and he's loose unless it's several other dogs their then he gets ruff so we only try to hunt him with not many on the ground. yoy can find a dog that will run a hog 1 or 2 miles a dime a dozen. But one that will take a track work it out and put a hog on the end or stay after until your ready to go home is a needle in a hay stack.



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No all kiddin aside all I ever implied is that the "ruff, catch'em quick or come back" style of dogs are not true "hog dogs"  IMO and its getting me killed on here.   I love to bow hunt whitetail deer from time to time as well and if this country ever outlaws bow hunting I'm done with deer.   I refuse to hunt with a gun it just doesn't do it for me.    Same with hogs, its not just about "catchin a hog" to some of us.    I credit this to having caught thousands of hogs in my life and killed several Pope&Young class bucks in my life and if having "been there before" makes me arrogant then I apologize.    I used to help a guy do guided hog hunts in an enclosure and 15-18 years ago I LOVED IT but I soon realized two things were constant.   First we was going to catch hogs EVERY day and very few on the dogs we were using could bay the tougher kind of hogs on the outside.    And by "tougher kind" I mean most hogs are easy to catch with decent dogs but some require a MUCH higher class of dog.   This realization turned me off eventually and I started to desire the upper class of dog.    Now don't get me wrong I still love to catch an ol' nasty boar and I do it consistently with whatever dogs I have at the time but you'll never catch me on here saying "they produce so they must be hog dogs" or "they work for me and thats all that matters"   Nope, I will say I caught a few damn nice hogs this week with mostly "junk" and a couple promising pups and Iif my hunting buddies ask me if I have a "hog dog" I'll say "nope, I have a dog that will bay a hog but not a hog dog"  and they'll understand exactlt what I'm saying.    If being honest with ourselves is so elusive then its no wonder a new guy getting into hog hunting can't find a decent dog to start with.   Had a guy text me the other day and told me to keep an eye out for him a hog dog and I replied "hog dog or HOG DOG!"   He then replied "you know."   Yes I do!!!

On a side note, being honest with ourselves isn't always the case, some folks just don't know.   Take care and I'm sorry for all tge toes I have stepped on.
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« Reply #145 on: October 03, 2015, 11:31:24 am »

Well I hunted the river last night walked 7 miles and never saw a track zero fresh sign. Buck and Zeus hunted hard but you can't catch a ghost.The water is high and that in conjunction with the added pressure of deer season the few hogs on the 3000 acres are pushed to the neighboring property which I have no access to. This happens every deer season when it finally cools down the woods are crawling with people and come general gun, deer dogs as well.There are many places in Fl that are crawling with hogs and believe me I am on a constant quest to gain access to one of them but as of now my spots are not very good. We do have quota hunts that you can apply for like the one that TazD mentioned earlier some are better than others and I hunt a couple and usually do ok but these hunts can be very sketchy with scumbag thieves who ride around waiting to hear a hog bayed or caught and try to steal the hog or even worse your dogs and gear. This has happened to several of my friends.One buddies dog got kicked and her jaw was broken his son and his sons friend were beaten up and their hog was stolen.Even though I drew a good one this year I am very hesitant and believe that I am going to turn my permit in.I have no where to run a long range dog with endless bottom.I can appreciate one for sure just have absolutely no use for one at the moment.
scumbags beating up dogs and stealing hogs! man the laws in California suck but Im glad I dont have to deal with that nonsense. When I was a kid we used to leave a really nice bike in town unlocked and wait for someone to steal it, then we would beat the snot out of whoever did, we were bored. Might have to pull something like that on those daddy didn't marry mommys. lol
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« Reply #146 on: October 03, 2015, 01:06:54 pm »

Well I hunted the river last night walked 7 miles and never saw a track zero fresh sign. Buck and Zeus hunted hard but you can't catch a ghost.The water is high and that in conjunction with the added pressure of deer season the few hogs on the 3000 acres are pushed to the neighboring property which I have no access to. This happens every deer season when it finally cools down the woods are crawling with people and come general gun, deer dogs as well.There are many places in Fl that are crawling with hogs and believe me I am on a constant quest to gain access to one of them but as of now my spots are not very good. We do have quota hunts that you can apply for like the one that TazD mentioned earlier some are better than others and I hunt a couple and usually do ok but these hunts can be very sketchy with scumbag thieves who ride around waiting to hear a hog bayed or caught and try to steal the hog or even worse your dogs and gear. This has happened to several of my friends.One buddies dog got kicked and her jaw was broken his son and his sons friend were beaten up and their hog was stolen.Even though I drew a good one this year I am very hesitant and believe that I am going to turn my permit in.I have no where to run a long range dog with endless bottom.I can appreciate one for sure just have absolutely no use for one at the moment.
scumbags beating up dogs and stealing hogs! man the laws in California suck but Im glad I dont have to deal with that nonsense. When I was a kid we used to leave a really nice bike in town unlocked and wait for someone to steal it, then we would beat the snot out of whoever did, we were bored. Might have to pull something like that on those daddy didn't marry mommys. lol

Beat the snot my butt, take of business and leave them for the yotes, buzzards, ants and gators turn them into poop. That kind of crap is nonsense, especially whooping up on kids just for a piece of pork. If the law wont do anything, then its time to take the law into your own hands and let justice be served.
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« Reply #147 on: October 03, 2015, 02:02:45 pm »

Rednose just holler when you get close to coming this way and will set something up. Heck I don't think that any one really doing anything much different might approach at a different angle but still pretty much the same lol.


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« Reply #148 on: October 03, 2015, 04:12:32 pm »

Rednose just holler when you get close to coming this way and will set something up. Heck I don't think that any one really doing anything much different might approach at a different angle but still pretty much the same lol.

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« Reply #149 on: October 03, 2015, 04:23:05 pm »

Rednose just holler when you get close to coming this way and will set something up. Heck I don't think that any one really doing anything much different might approach at a different angle but still pretty much the same lol.


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Judge I can assure you some folks do it different!
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« Reply #150 on: October 03, 2015, 08:12:47 pm »

Bubba I never said a good dog was at every corner but I do know what a good dog is just like many others on this site. Do I think I have one or two yes I do so does a lot of folks I don't need your approval for any thing I say or do nor does any one else. But it's always a pleasure talking with ya. Just keep in mind he who is resistant to change will surely parish


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I'm leaving here at 4:00 I want to see these "hog dogs."    I should be there at 7:00 are you gonna meet me at that Tractor Supply or not?

Rednose I think I know who your getting that dog from he ain't but two hrs from me I would be more than happy to take you on a hunt. Not a lot of hogs on my spots the heli guy has pretty much wiped them out but there are some nice ones from time to time you can pm if your intrested.


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Thanks for the invite Judge it won't be for a couple of months but I would def like to take you up on that offer. To me it doesn't matter how many we catch if we catch any or not, I just like getting out there and doing it.  See how you do your thing and learning from it. We have to do things way different out here due to laws so I would really like to try the way you guys do things.

I don't like ruff dogs either, and I hate dogs that come back after a mile or two knowing they was to sorry to keep going. I usually feed them to the worms or whatever's around. I have 1 ruff dog as we speak and only reason I still do is because certain people at my house like him so he's here to stay and he won't bay a hog he's either caught or laid over in the grass wondering if it's going to be his last breath. But that's just what I like and don't like. Most around here hunt loose dogs so one ruff dogs usually gets all them wrecked if it's a bad hog or makes it break and just have to run it longer. Like someone said earlier in the post if I had to feed a dog that quit after a mile id buy me some fishing tackle. I like a dog that when you let it go it kicks rocks and goes hunting and don't look back. I got a dog named Ben now I been letting my buddy hunt for a while, he's got to where when you pull up on the fourwhweler to cut him off a track to go home he will go around you and this dogs daddy was like that, their kinda aggravating for most people but it's what I like and he's loose unless it's several other dogs their then he gets ruff so we only try to hunt him with not many on the ground. yoy can find a dog that will run a hog 1 or 2 miles a dime a dozen. But one that will take a track work it out and put a hog on the end or stay after until your ready to go home is a needle in a hay stack.



Bo be careful, we can't take that kind of honesty around here.   Lol

No all kiddin aside all I ever implied is that the "ruff, catch'em quick or come back" style of dogs are not true "hog dogs"  IMO and its getting me killed on here.   I love to bow hunt whitetail deer from time to time as well and if this country ever outlaws bow hunting I'm done with deer.   I refuse to hunt with a gun it just doesn't do it for me.    Same with hogs, its not just about "catchin a hog" to some of us.    I credit this to having caught thousands of hogs in my life and killed several Pope&Young class bucks in my life and if having "been there before" makes me arrogant then I apologize.    I used to help a guy do guided hog hunts in an enclosure and 15-18 years ago I LOVED IT but I soon realized two things were constant.   First we was going to catch hogs EVERY day and very few on the dogs we were using could bay the tougher kind of hogs on the outside.    And by "tougher kind" I mean most hogs are easy to catch with decent dogs but some require a MUCH higher class of dog.   This realization turned me off eventually and I started to desire the upper class of dog.    Now don't get me wrong I still love to catch an ol' nasty boar and I do it consistently with whatever dogs I have at the time but you'll never catch me on here saying "they produce so they must be hog dogs" or "they work for me and thats all that matters"   Nope, I will say I caught a few damn nice hogs this week with mostly "junk" and a couple promising pups and Iif my hunting buddies ask me if I have a "hog dog" I'll say "nope, I have a dog that will bay a hog but not a hog dog"  and they'll understand exactlt what I'm saying.    If being honest with ourselves is so elusive then its no wonder a new guy getting into hog hunting can't find a decent dog to start with.   Had a guy text me the other day and told me to keep an eye out for him a hog dog and I replied "hog dog or HOG DOG!"   He then replied "you know."   Yes I do!!!

On a side note, being honest with ourselves isn't always the case, some folks just don't know.   Take care and I'm sorry for all tge toes I have stepped on.


Well I hunted the river last night walked 7 miles and never saw a track zero fresh sign. Buck and Zeus hunted hard but you can't catch a ghost.The water is high and that in conjunction with the added pressure of deer season the few hogs on the 3000 acres are pushed to the neighboring property which I have no access to. This happens every deer season when it finally cools down the woods are crawling with people and come general gun, deer dogs as well.There are many places in Fl that are crawling with hogs and believe me I am on a constant quest to gain access to one of them but as of now my spots are not very good. We do have quota hunts that you can apply for like the one that TazD mentioned earlier some are better than others and I hunt a couple and usually do ok but these hunts can be very sketchy with scumbag thieves who ride around waiting to hear a hog bayed or caught and try to steal the hog or even worse your dogs and gear. This has happened to several of my friends.One buddies dog got kicked and her jaw was broken his son and his sons friend were beaten up and their hog was stolen.Even though I drew a good one this year I am very hesitant and believe that I am going to turn my permit in.I have no where to run a long range dog with endless bottom.I can appreciate one for sure just have absolutely no use for one at the moment.

Which quotas hunt did you draw? I hear you about stealing hogs, have seen my share of that and people trying to put hands on dogs that didn't belong to them. Thankful no one can touch ours

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« Reply #151 on: October 03, 2015, 08:48:05 pm »

Green swamp west unit 10/21-23 and my buddy got tosohatchie hunt 1.I have never had anyone try to get a hog or dog from me thank god as my reaction would not be good. Where are you located spaz?
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« Reply #152 on: October 04, 2015, 05:54:45 am »

LH Cracker. I do not do any of the quota hunts anymore, did years ago, but not interested in the crowds, and people driving around dumping dogs on others who have caught or bayed a hog! Had it happen at Starkey quota hunt. My dogs worked a hog for about a 1.5mi and finally got it caught, got to them pulled off 2 of my dogs then all of a sudden here comes 7 head of dogs!! They tried to say the hog was theirs, but I do not play that game!! By the time I was done with them, they drove me back to my truck, and were saying Sir alot!! GSW is a good hunt. Not much B'S will go on there because every Wildlife Officer will be there at that hunt, always is!!
My spots are always under water, ask the men from Texas about their hunt with me when they came down for a visit!! I am sure they will tell you it was not like hunting in Texas!! Had a great time though, and slammed a real nice boar! Oh yeah, and he was crying like a baby when my 2 curs swallowed him up!! Evil
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« Reply #153 on: October 04, 2015, 09:29:14 am »

Cracker we are around ocala

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« Reply #154 on: October 04, 2015, 01:21:56 pm »

Yeah I'm not big on crowds either TazD.Those kind of encounters scare the hell out of me. Probably go check it out and if I can get way back off the roads away from the crowd then I'll cut a couple loose.

I'm over in Volusia county spaz what do yall hunt over there you got leases or private land?
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« Reply #155 on: October 07, 2015, 09:46:19 am »

I try to steals Spazhogdog hogs but her dogs try to bite me! Lol

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Don't steal the hogs just help me drag them out. And if you got a bay going hollar and I will dump out if I see it crossing the road. Lol

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