Finder Holders

[Clown hater]

I'm in on the short fast catch. the using night vision sneakin up down wind and claiming to have the best thing ever hit the dog world is something different. Fun yes. Maybe not so much to be bragging about

[Judge peel]

The best thing to his this site is the reply button lol. Just a page back everyone was best friends now back to truth bearing gods of the hog dog world. I like dogs that find catch run bay trial up hogs any one of the styles will work I try to put all of that in my dog box. I don't get the point of all this classification of each kind of dog ether it works or it don't bottom line. I have as much respect for a dog that can find and catch a hog in short work just as I can for one that runs the hooves off one no difference to me if they both do it on a high percentage. 


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[Clown hater]

Judge peel your right.  Couldn't agree more

[Black Streak]

Clown I have never ever not once claimed that finder holders where the only way to go nor have I ever made any such claim that my way of hunting or my dogs are better than anyone else's on here  other than the ones that make claims like Oconee and Bo Pough do.     Maybe it would behoove you to go back and read some of their older post.      I know you haven't done so because your stats say you've only spent 36 minutes on this forum as per your second post on this thread.     Not that most of the men and women of this forum need or care for someone to speak up but it was just aggrivating to read posts where people are claiming to have better dogs than the rest of us.        If you would go back and look, you would see where I point out to these guys that the dogs their claiming are HOG DOGS or are the best dogs of any body on here can't do but half of the job many other people dogs can do on here by the dogs self without help from another dog.       Never have I made these arguments strictly about my dogs, but since my dogs can do this as many other people's dogs on here, I have lumped them in also as it's convenient for example sake.        I didn't even create this thread called finder holders.        
    My opinion of my own dogs is they suite me and I like them and I think they do a very good job for me.       I don't tell people that if you want to stop runners then these dogs are for you.   I dont try to convince people that these dogs are for them or they are and end all or a cure for their problems.     Matter of fact when people contact me about my dogs and want one, I have spoke to them at length about the pros and cons of these kinda dogs and have told many people that these kinda dogs would probably not suit them and they would be better served getting different dogs.
    Point I'm trying to make Clown is I you have miss enterprited me and miss judged me in your haste.
I am as much for the modesty and humility as most anybody on here.     You know i dont even know how many pigs my dogs have caught this year or the year before that.   I can tell you how many pigs I got last couple times out because I remember the details of the hunts but after that the hunts start running together unless something made them special.    I dont get hung up on how many pigs we catch,  i just do it because of my love for my dogs and because i get enjoyment out of it.  
   I hope you find this enlightening and you have a better understanding of where I'm coming from.   If not oh well, I give you an honest try.

[oconee]

Black Streak I haven't addressed you directly but you responded to my only two comments this week by addressing me.   Huh, can't  figure out what your problem in with me.  

I welcome you to find and quote anywhere on this site I claimed my dogs were better than anyone else's.    Now I have made several statements about what I will not tolerate out of my dogs and several comments about how your dogs won't work in other areas of the world (namely my country).

The problem I have had from the beginning is that most everyone on this site has owned or currently owns a running catch dog and you claim the hairy ones you own are superior to them all.   There is a time and place for running catch dogs and in fact I'd like to have one around on occasion but I can assure you even the guys that love them are man enough to admit they aren't always the best.

Another thing that cracks me up is how some guy has blown smoke up you butt and got you to believing these mutts (which are nothing more than a plain ol' running catch dog that everyone already has if they want) are in some way the next great thing.    Look if you want to buy some Aussie's line of crap thats fine but I'm smarter than you and it offends me that you think I'm gonna get on here and believe ya'll BS!

Don't address me anymore and we'll get along just fine, keep running your mouth and I'll start telling the stories the guys that have hunted with your mutts have been PMing me!    Good day

[Clown hater]

Black streak. I finally got tired of reading your crap about everyone else having dogs that only get half the job done. That's only reason I go on here. There is a place for your style of dog. A place. Not every place. So maybe that only makes them half ass

[Black Streak]

Bldon'tstreak. I finally got tired of reading your crap about everyone else having dogs that only get half the job done. That's only reason I go on here. There is a place for your style of dog. A place. Not every place. So maybe that only makes them half ass

sir where can this style of dog not hunt?    i actually have finder holders and have hunted with others that have them and if you think they can't hunt different typesof terrian, your just proving your ignorance.     Maybe you have stags and finder holders confused because i have both.   I can run my finder holders like stags or with them but the stags can't do what the finder holders can when the finder holders are in their element.     
   As far as me making claims of having better dogs than everybody else on this forum or my style is better than any other style, you gonna have to do more than say i did such a thing.   You should point it out for me and the entire forum to see and in the context it was used.     If you can find such a thing I've said in the manner of which you are accusing me, i will emmediatly and humbly apologize to everyone on this forum.
     

[Clown hater]

Your tellin me if you dump in a pasture where you don't know there are hogs. Your finder/holders will go hunt and either wind a hog or hit a track and go with it??  If the case. They must be very very short range. There nuthin in the breeding that has a nose. And what happens if they do go catch one and it takes you 15-20 min to get there  like you said in your opinion your dogs work good for you. Maybe need to just let them work for you and not worrien bout tellin every body else. Other people's dogs in there opinion work God for them and there not bragging bout it

[Clown hater]

I know the type of dogs you hunt are fun no doubt. But if they were the All AROUND HOG DOG.  Don't you think they would be the thing to have. There's people been hunting hogs a long time. And haven't went to them. Why you think that is if there the real deal?

[l.h.cracker]

There's an entire continent that uses them and has done so for a long time Clown.They hunt with their noses just as any dog does they are line bred hog dogs bred best to best for Many generations there are many variations just as Curs here in America. Just because they're different from the style of dogs most are used to don't mean they aren't hog dogs.II don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you should do some research on the breeds and history of the dogs before bashing a mans personal preference of hog dogging style and dog.

[Clown hater]

There's an entire continent that uses them and has done so for a long time Clown.They hunt with their noses just as any dog does they are line bred hog dogs bred best to best for Many generations there are many variations just as Curs here in America. Just because they're different from the style of dogs most are used to don't mean they aren't hog dogs.II don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you should do some research on the breeds and history of the dogs before bashing a mans personal preference of hog dogging style and dog.

I know there's an entire continent that uses them. It's totally different country over there. Not bashing the style of dog just the black streak bragging about them. Personal preferance doesn't mean every one that uses other style dogs are only half way hog dogs. That's the point I'm gettin accross

[Black Streak]

Your tellin me if you dump in a pasture where you don't know there are hogs. Your finder/holders will go hunt and either wind a hog or hit a track and go with it??  If the case. They must be very very short range. There nuthin in the breeding that has a nose. And what happens if they do go catch one and it takes you 15-20 min to get there  like you said in your opinion your dogs work good for you. Maybe need to just let them work for you and not worrien bout tellin every body else. Other people's dogs in there opinion work God for them and there not bragging bout it

Yes they hunt like a cur dog.   If you have been reading my post history like you say you have you would already have the answers to all the questions you just asked.         Biggest reason my dogs are even mentioned is because someone has asked about my dogs specificly.       I deliberately don't boast about my dogs so people like you ddon't have a leg to stand on when your emotions get the better of you.               

[Black Streak]

Black Streak I haven't addressed you directly but you responded to my only two comments this week by addressing me.   Huh, can't  figure out what your problem in with me.  

I welcome you to find and quote anywhere on this site I claimed my dogs were better than anyone else's.    Now I have made several statements about what I will not tolerate out of my dogs and several comments about how your dogs won't work in other areas of the world (namely my country).

The problem I have had from the beginning is that most everyone on this site has owned or currently owns a running catch dog and you claim the hairy ones you own are superior to them all.   There is a time and place for running catch dogs and in fact I'd like to have one around on occasion but I can assure you even the guys that love them are man enough to admit they aren't always the best.

Another thing that cracks me up is how some guy has blown smoke up you butt and got you to believing these mutts (which are nothing more than a plain ol' running catch dog that everyone already has if they want) are in some way the next great thing.    Look if you want to buy some Aussie's line of crap thats fine but I'm smarter than you and it offends me that you think I'm gonna get on here and believe ya'll BS!

Don't address me anymore and we'll get along just fine, keep running your mouth and I'll start telling the stories the guys that have hunted with your mutts have been PMing me!    Good day

 You don't want me adressing you on here but you call me on my phone. How funny!    Oconee you the biggest fibber I've encountered in a long long while.      I would gladly like to hear your made up stories of people on this forum that have hunted with me since I've converted to hairy dogs.   I bet you and that imagination of yours could come up with some pretty radical stuff.  I challenge you to produce 1 persons handle on here that has ever hunted with my finder holders, you can't can you.      Just me replying to this bluff of yours is enough for me to discredit the rest of your post you just made.

[Black Streak]

There's an entire continent that uses them and has done so for a long time Clown.They hunt with their noses just as any dog does they are line bred hog dogs bred best to best for Many generations there are many variations just as Curs here in America. Just because they're different from the style of dogs most are used to don't mean they aren't hog dogs.II don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you should do some research on the breeds and history of the dogs before bashing a mans personal preference of hog dogging style and dog.

I know there's an entire continent that uses them. It's totally different country over there. Not bashing the style of dog just the black streak bragging about them. Personal preferance doesn't mean every one that uses other style dogs are only half way hog dogs. That's the point I'm gettin accross

I have never bragged on my dogs on here.   Only compared them to the dogs of people bragging about having better dogs than the rest of us on here.           As far as why this type of dog isn't very popular  here as compared to Australia.    Good question! If you could ever find anyone that had good finder/holder type dogs that could stand to keep company with you and let you tag along, you might be asking yourself the same question.               I dont knowof any person that runs this type of dog that aadvices their dogs or their style is for anyone else.       As a matter of fact it's quite the opposite.    Most people i know of are pretty guarded about who they will give these dog to, myself incuded.    Why would I or anyone else be telling people they should hunt this kinda dog if I didn't want to give them out?       
   Your entire reason for joining this forum was to come on here and argue as you said yourself.      You got issues.   You probably called me wanting a dog and I refused you truth be known here.   

[buddylee]

Black Streak, what ur dealing with are obviously idiots who know everything yet know nothing. Best thing to do is ignore them and prove them wrong. I'm not gonna mention the crosses I'm making but folks will say they can't handle the thickets here cause their too big. I love proving them wrong.

[l.h.cracker]

There's an entire continent that uses them and has done so for a long time Clown.They hunt with their noses just as any dog does they are line bred hog dogs bred best to best for Many generations there are many variations just as Curs here in America. Just because they're different from the style of dogs most are used to don't mean they aren't hog dogs.II don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you should do some research on the breeds and history of the dogs before bashing a mans personal preference of hog dogging style and dog.

I know there's an entire continent that uses them. It's totally different country over there. Not bashing the style of dog just the black streak bragging about them. Personal preferance doesn't mean every one that uses other style dogs are only half way hog dogs. That's the point I'm gettin accross

Have you been to Australia?There are many different environments that they utilize their dogs in such as mountains,forest,cane,BlackBerry brambles coastal Marsh and Desert environments. Sounds pretty similar to hear.Not every place can be sight hunted the way you are imagining.The main difference is preference in the dogs performance hence breeding dogs specifically for finding and holding any hog for extended periods of time with ease.I don't get why this type of hunting makes tempers flare and I totally agree that it is not for everyone running dogs like this takes physical ability and commitment to get to the dog no matter what. This is the type of dog I prefer but it's just a preference just like eating a certain food.We might be on different sides of the fence about dogs but its certainly no reason to start picking at a grown man who spends his time and money how he chooses.

[oconee]

There's an entire continent that uses them and has done so for a long time Clown.They hunt with their noses just as any dog does they are line bred hog dogs bred best to best for Many generations there are many variations just as Curs here in America. Just because they're different from the style of dogs most are used to don't mean they aren't hog dogs.II don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you should do some research on the breeds and history of the dogs before bashing a mans personal preference of hog dogging style and dog.

That continent has the highest hog population in the WORLD.     This junk won't work in places the hogs are thin!

[oconee]

Ok maybe "junk" was a little harsh!      My point is, these are NOTHING more than running catch dogs and they work great in areas the hogs are thick but if they are asked to trail oe range out and actually find a hog that might not be undee your feet they will fail miserably!     

[Clown hater]

Black streak. I went back and looked at the pics of your 446 pound hog. He looks like he's half pot belly.

[Mike]

Heck of a first post Clown!

That should have been his last post... anyone else want to join him?

If you can't post without talking $hit or name calling... then don't post at all.