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« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2015, 02:21:37 pm »

Slim,  my dogs are not shoulderd up to a pig in most cases when I get to them, especially when it's just 1 dog per pig.     Normally I'm seeing  the dog and pig facing one another especially if the pig is fighting hard.    The second dog if there is one will sometimes shoulder up but more often than not be on the pig at 90 degrees pulling the pig sideways.  In that case if dogs are opposite one another they will both pull opposite one another.   In that instance if the pig rushes forward, the dogs may shoulder up to the pig.    If the pig is calm and the dog is calm, often times they will just walk around together lol.   Kinda like they best buds lol.   Usually in that case even when I go to leg the pig, the pig doesn't get upset untill I have it on its side if I'm gonna hobble it..       
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« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2015, 02:25:46 pm »

Hey black streak, I was completely wrong, it was in the 80s and the load was 40 tons with a combined total between load and hover barge was 220 tons. Here is the link.

http://www.colheli.com/news/the_hover_barge/




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« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2015, 04:18:16 pm »

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« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2015, 04:20:43 pm »

Speed, nose, safe holding style, and hunt. She has it.
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« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2015, 05:09:00 pm »

I bet that son of a gun can flat out get somewhere! 
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« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2015, 05:24:34 pm »

That is a good looking long legged sucker.
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« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2015, 05:51:35 pm »

I see what you mean when you where referring to Lapua's length of loin when looking at the picture of that dog Paul.      You think  Lapua has loins, you should see her brother.   Flat out rediculis as I've never seen any on a dog so long.       I'll get a good picture of him that shows them off well and send it to you.    He is not as fluid of a mover as his sister though but he got plenty of speed and is lugging up well.   He has fired off well on pigs.    Took him out with Lapua today for a quick circle to stretch their legs since i just got back home.    Put a vest on them and let them have at it.     He didn't do to shabby but he had Lapua there also.    That's a very nice looking dog  in the picture by they way.   
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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2015, 06:08:02 pm »

That is a fine looking animal.I can see how it would be extremely difficult for a pig to outrun her.
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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2015, 06:23:43 pm »

yep...she is a fine looking specimen...I like her bone structure and muscle tone...
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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2015, 06:34:32 pm »

Looks like long leg Linda    Nice dog


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« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2015, 09:36:04 pm »

Black streak good write up on your dogs. By what you said you could classify two of mine as finder holders minus the speed one is pretty fast for a cur but the other ain't lol I have seen them caught on a hog a mile plus get there and hog has no ears and they will pull off cheek arm pits what ever they can get hold of. With any thing it takes playing with game to find the sweet spot 


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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2015, 10:57:55 pm »

That is a real nice looking dog Silverton. How is she bred up, what is crossed into her?
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« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2015, 05:13:13 am »

Paul,

Serious question: can you take the dog you have pictured and track hunt her?  Drop her off on a fresh, not hot, track and she'll take it?

I've talked to you a time or two before, you probably don't remember me...

Reason I ask is that I run this type dog as well - you can scroll back through my old posts I believe there are some pics. I really only use mine for sight although I have turned them out alone on hot tracks before and they each came up with their own pig.  What I'm calling a hot track is we saw the sounder, they hit the brush and were out of sight probably 30 seconds before the door was dropped. 

Honestly curious on the nose potential these dogs have. Thanks.
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« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2015, 06:18:20 am »

She has a pretty good nose jsh, usually very dry here so winding is her style, but will take a hot track. She is Stag with a little Bull dog in her.
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« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2015, 06:30:24 pm »

She has a pretty good nose jsh, usually very dry here so winding is her style, but will take a hot track. She is Stag with a little Bull dog in her.

Sounds like a good one. I have a stag/lurcher pup on the way and I am hoping she will use her nose a little but I guess time will tell. Beautiful dog.
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« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2015, 03:50:46 pm »

Pretty impressive looking dog

What the little one at the bottom lol.         Just kidding, thanks.

Yeah the two of them actually  Grin
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« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2015, 04:25:58 am »

A couple of dogs I'm running hear in aus.
The first one is a Paulson bull Arab bitch

A Brian Neal bull Arab bitch

Both bitch's r about 82lb an 2 year old strait catch, I only wind them off the back of the ute, I haven't done any walk hunting with them.

A male 10 month old Paulson line bull Arab


An the last one is a 4 year old cross breed bitch with mainly Dane/bully/boxer but prob has a few more crosses in it, she's a very smart dog strait catch if it was sight work an if u were hunting her she would let out 2 or 3 barks when she got to the pig then catch, if u took too long to get to her she would let go an bark again till u got their an catch again ( I really like that) she is about 74lb caught a lot of pigs by herself.

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« Reply #117 on: December 02, 2015, 05:00:20 am »

 Nice dogs Hugh.

I still have Runt, he's a solid little dog. 

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« Reply #118 on: December 02, 2015, 06:26:21 am »

Nice dogs Middleton always wanted a bullarab how's the speed on yours?
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« Reply #119 on: December 02, 2015, 08:07:55 am »

Middleton,  I've been told that the finder holder dogs of OZ (as a hole) can pretty are superior to the dogs we have here in the US as far as a good finder holder, finder luggers go.     This makes very good sense to me for the reasons given.      Do you, having been apart of both worlds, find this to be true?   If so or if not so, I'd like to hear you comments and thoughts as to why or why not.
    Also I seem to see much more bone in the finder holder dogs you guys have in Oz compared to most dogs used here of the same nature when looking at pics.      Am i really seeing this in the pics of most Aussie finder holders?      Only Aussie finder holder blood I've ever seen here in the states is from the Bloom Brothers RIP dog.   He bred a few bitches when the dog was here in Texas.     I've seen several of his grandsons and 1 son.     Half had huge bone that looked as if  they were the bones of a small horse. Other half of the dogs I've seen were normal or slightly better.    All other Aussie blood was just pics.  Does this seem to be so, or not really?
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