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« on: October 25, 2015, 01:47:38 am »



 some good catahoulas. Peds really don't matter too much, only for record keeping.  Looking for somthing to cross to my AB's.

 Not really looking for merle dogs. Any direction you can point me in would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 09:28:46 pm »

   

  Am I doing something  wrong? A ton of views and no replies? What's going on?
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 10:17:18 pm »

  I don't have any bay dogs but I'll comment on your thread and maybe get some conversation going on it.

 Why do you want to make that cross?      I would figure if you was dead set on  this cross for gritty bay dogs or  RCD's you would be inclined to start out with a rough Catahoula to breed to and not just any Catahoula.
      I personally don't like the idea of breeding bay dog to catch dog in order to get catch dogs or rough bay dogs.    Their are a lot of folks that do and produce dogs that they like  and work well for them, i just think their are better options for starting down this road if the said person hasn't already done it yet.       
   Tell the guys here a little more about why you want this cross and give them something to a little more to comment on.  I bet your thread fires off soon if you do.  All the best to you!
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 11:00:05 pm »

  I don't have any bay dogs but I'll comment on your thread and maybe get some conversation going on it.

 Why do you want to make that cross?      I would figure if you was dead set on  this cross for gritty bay dogs or  RCD's you would be inclined to start out with a rough Catahoula to breed to and not just any Catahoula.
      I personally don't like the idea of breeding bay dog to catch dog in order to get catch dogs or rough bay dogs.    Their are a lot of folks that do and produce dogs that they like  and work well for them, i just think their are better options for starting down this road if the said person hasn't already done it yet.       
   Tell the guys here a little more about why you want this cross and give them something to a little more to comment on.  I bet your thread fires off soon if you do.  All the best to you!

 Thanks.  I'm really looking for ones that catch on hogs and will still hunt small game. Maybe even ones that work cattle. I'm looking to make dogs I can take into the woods with me to camp or just spend a few days. some AB's are all bite and very little brain. Some catahoulas are staright coyote acting. I'd like to produce dogs that have brains and are not skittish. I undestand that it could totally go the other way but I'm willing to try. The point was to get in touch with someone that has working cats that won't charge a house payment for one.

 As far as merle dogs go, I understand the genetics behind the merle coat and really don't want to deal with it. besides they draw too much attention in the "city'( my town likes to think it is a city complete with yuppies and hipsters).
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 11:07:51 pm »




   Guess I'm really into making a decent farm dog Is what it boils down to.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 01:26:01 am »

Finally, something I can speak about on the forum haha !
I think you are right on the money with that last statement. I have a Cat bull that is about the best just all around "family/farm/watch dog" I could hope for.  She is smart but not too smart, eager to please, athletic as heck but she can turn it off or on, big but not too big, built like a brick house, and scared of nothing. She is a one Master dog, suspicious of anybody that isn't family but will accept them after a solid introduction, and when she barks and means it she will sure enough get your attention.

I have never hunted with my dogs, but this pup would blow up and bay her toys from the time I got her at 6 weeks old. She  is 7 months old now and bays the neighbors Pyrenees dog when he comes over, bawling, circling, lunging in and out and swinging sideways to stay beside of him. I'm going to show her a pig this winter and see what she does.

The pros as I see them, the Catahoula gives the mix some things I want like good sense, a little more brains, long and lean athletic build, loyalty and energy.
The Bulldog gives her the thick head and solid build I like about her, and maybe lets her unwind and just be a lazy dog some time instead of wound up tighter than piano wire all the time. I think the BD side of her makes a little calmer dog, more family oriented. I could be wrong, I have never kept a straight Catahoula but the ones I've known were wound up all the time.

There are so many variables in the cross, it's hard to say what the pups would be, but I got lucky and wound up with exactly what I wanted with a Catahoula ABD, and it sounds like about what you are looking for. I will always have one around the yard, whether I'm hunting them or not.

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2015, 01:40:15 am »

I'll try to post a pic; She is about 6 months old in the picture. She has gotten longer, a good bit taller and a lot thicker build though she is still pretty long and lean. She is about 65 lbs now and 8 1/2 months old though I said 7 earlier.... Not that this has anything to do with finding you a Catahoula haha, I just couldn't help stealing your thread.



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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2015, 02:36:32 am »

I'll try to post a pic; She is about 6 months old in the picture. She has gotten longer, a good bit taller and a lot thicker build though she is still pretty long and lean. She is about 65 lbs now and 8 1/2 months old though I said 7 earlier.... Not that this has anything to do with finding you a Catahoula haha, I just couldn't help stealing your thread.





 I appreciate the pic LOL!! So she is a 50/50 cat bull? Looks nice.  Basicallly how you descricbe her is what I want. My bulldog now is almost too nice. super social. she used to be a hog dog. will walk up to anybody and say hello. Not at all like my old dog. he was a pit amstaff cross and he was more like your dog. needed an introduction before he took up with someone. really protective but not at all aggressive. got on with other dogs as long as they had manners. had him for 12 years and hands down the best dog I ever owned. should have worked him in protection but I was 19 and didn't know squat about it. He is the reason I got into AB's and into working dogs. If I am to hog hunt it is really to test my dogs( and the free meat ain't bad either LOL!)
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2015, 11:10:34 am »

Since there are two threads right now kinda encompassing the same subject matter, I'm gonna post this link on both of them.

I'll elaborate more on the other thread.

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=83330.0
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2015, 02:11:15 pm »

I couldn't tell you anything about the Sire except what I see in the pups. I'm assuming he was ABD from the build of his pups but whatever he was he was sure enough a Stud. All I know about the Dam is meeting her at the pound, she was about 65 lbs black and tan face and dark merle coat and came into the shelter already bred. I figured the pups were just mutts when I got one but it's hard to belive this much drive and build was an accident. I believe she was bred before she got loose and whatever reason whoever bred her never found her when she came in, or didn't want to pay the fines to get her back. Her brother is the only other one of the pups I've kept up with and he is about 100 lbs now, built like a tank and just as intense as she is. Kind of a shame the pups all went to pets when they could have made some good CD/RCDs, but like I was saying earlier I think the BD side of them makes them a bit more suited to family life.
I think if you want a family dog that's good on some land and will also hunt some, you will do alright. Mine is a little too rough and rowdy for small kids tough. If you want a full on strike dog that will find its own pigs you may be disappointed unless you really found just the perfect 2 dogs for it, and if you want a straight catch dog like the others say there are easier ways to get that. I think mine would do good as a lead in CD or a RCD to back up a smaller strike dog. Mine doesn't seem to have a great nose, but I've never asked her to use it much.
She is the reason I got interested in Hog Dogs and found this forum, and I hope to at least show her some pigs this winter and see what she does. I have a feeling she will know what to do with it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 08:29:22 pm »

That sure is a nice looking dog Briar. You got to let us know how she hunts for you after you have had a chance to hunt her a bit.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2015, 08:32:06 pm »

That sure is a nice looking dog Briar. You got to let us know how she hunts for you after you have had a chance to hunt her a bit.

x2...she is put together nicely...
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2015, 11:38:11 pm »

   
   Question still never got answered. I'm looking for a decent  working catahoula to cross to my decent working bulldog to make a passable farm/guard dog with both brains and guts. I'm not looking to pay a house payment for one. Any info would be appreciated
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2015, 08:27:17 pm »

   

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2015, 08:19:55 am »

Well I know I'm keeping an eye out for you if I see some pups come up. What part of Texas are you in ?
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2015, 04:47:19 pm »

Well I know I'm keeping an eye out for you if I see some pups come up. What part of Texas are you in ?

  Yeah about that...    I'm actually in central NC. If you find anything I'll make it work somehow. I appreciate anything you can offer.
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I have 2 males but I'm a long way ftom you. I have been considering the cross myself. Is your ab a scot or Johnson type ab?

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I have 2 males but I'm a long way ftom you. I have been considering the cross myself. Is your ab a scot or Johnson type ab?

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 She is actually a hybrid. Some johnson wayy back, mostly Hines and Man of War blood up close. I'm possibly getting a male that has Jack Frost blood a ways back.  I've talked to a few people about the cross. I'm excited to try it. Like Isaid before, I mostly hunt small game, but I want a good all around hunting dog/farmdog/watchdog.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2015, 10:28:37 pm »

My male cat is a looser baying dog.
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His son is product of an accidental breeding between him and my wife house bulldog. So far so good, he seems to be tighter baying and shuts them down. He is more high strung than his dad tho.

(I docked his tail just because I never had a bob tail dog)

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