Getting dogs to leave caught hogs

[Stumphunter]

hey guys i hunt with slim9797 and we are new to the sport of owning and training our own dogs. Id like to know your thoughts on how to train your dogs to leave a hog alone thats already tied up and to start hunting again.

[Slim9797]

Let me elaborate for stump... we walk hunt. normally run 3-4 dogs on the ground and the bulldog with us. we got dogs we like and they're really starting to find hogs. its no secret a good sized hog is worth a little bit more alive than it is dead, and being young and always finding ways to spend money we don't have, we'd like to be able to make a dollar or 2 while having fun in the woods. so, question being have any of you other walk hunters been able to teach your dogs to roll out  and or simply leave it alone after the hog is tied?

[Jmesonp1]

If they don't respond to scolding, try leashing them and walk them 100yds away. If you know there were multiple hogs, hopefully they will wind them or take the track. After enough tied hogs most learn what's expected. Others are hard headed jerks their whole life. 

[Steven M.]

Try walking them out like jmesonp said if that don't work take that lead and Crack the dog across the back with it until he leaves

[Judge peel]

Some dogs will have to be drug off while most can be trained to move out or to get off a caught hog the less dogs you have will determine how long this takes to do. Some dog will just naturally back off and roll out but that ain't the norm. I will get a small stick or small riding whip and touch the dogs when they won't leave the hog alone. Few times and they will catch on I don't kick the dog I am just trying to redirect them


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[Georgia-Hawgs]

Im pretty inexperienced myself but I think the dog or dogs need to know that once you ( the boss) arrives that the hog is yours. Once it clicks to them what you are wanting when you say git or go on,  they may start wanting to roll out on there on. They know the hog is yours and they want another one. After enough leash cracking and verbal commands it should just become a verbal thing for the most part. But like everyone else said some dogs are just hard headed and you may always have to force them to move on.

[ArtHenrey]

If the dog is young, hasn't been on many in the woods theyre more hard headed. They get so excited just hog crazy with a caught hog, in my opinion. The more hogs they catch the easier, they figure it out. Lead them out along with the command. Of "roll out", "caught hog" somthing they will catch onto to. With like judge said a small twich, leash em out etc.

[ArtHenrey]

Yall said that already. A younger dog I raised up this year I run shock collar on him. Just cause he will trash time to time. So he knows what it is. When he's at a caught hog, he's the typical youngster that's all for the hog caught. I use the "beep" on the collar and like I said he knows what it is. He will strait in up quick and pack up his lunch and carry on. Just a suggestion of what I'm actually going through myself. I Don't shock the dog off, he just knows what's making that beep noise so he respects it.

[Goose87]

Biggest part is trying to curb the problem before it gets out of hand, don't let dogs sit there and bark at tied hogs or chew in tied hogs, your not firing that young dog up, only creating a bad habit, tie them back as soon as you can so they start associating that with getting the heck back, after the dust has settled have some one walk dogs off while some one stands at tied hog and pops them with a switch if they return the grittier the dogs the harder it is in my opinion.

[Slim9797]

If the dog is young, hasn't been on many in the woods theyre more hard headed. They get so excited just hog crazy with a caught hog, in my opinion. The more hogs they catch the easier, they figure it out. Lead them out along with the command. Of "roll out", "caught hog" somthing they will catch onto to. With like judge said a small twich, leash em out etc.

the 2 that are really the only ones we have this problem with is my 3 year old lacy whose been on a good number of hogs, and then a 6 year old rcd we got given, he is new to us but has been on a ton of hogs.

Biggest part is trying to curb the problem before it gets out of hand, don't let dogs sit there and bark at tied hogs or chew in tied hogs, your not firing that young dog up, only creating a bad habit, tie them back as soon as you can so they start associating that with getting the heck back, after the dust has settled have some one walk dogs off while some one stands at tied hog and pops them with a switch if they return the grittier the dogs the harder it is in my opinion.

this goes along with what we were doing. one of us has stood over the hog after its tied and any time a dog tries to come back near it we pop them on the nose and tell them to "get out"

[aussie black mouth curs]

Have a friend stand as close as he/she can to the caught hog with a 6 foot stick and the dogs owners / handlers 10-15 yards away. If the dogs try the continue on the caught pig swipe at them (only use the force required - threatening is fine for most) and yell (whatever you want - NO, LEAVE, Get-out-of-it)  at the same time the owner should be calling the dogs like crazy. If you think there are other pigs in the area as soon as the dogs focus on the owner run in the opposite direction. As said before the harder headed one might need a tap or two. In Australia we focus on this quite a lot and call this "running on".

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[Reuben]

be consistent...I use "GET BACK" at home and anywhere I want my dog or dogs to get back or back off...most folks I know use the command  "GET AHEAD"...when I want my dogs to get ahead after catching a hog I get out a ways and clap my hands and hiss my dogs to roll out but I will wait awhile on account I don't like my dogs rolling out right away...

I used to do that when I was younger...now I let the dogs rest a little and let them roll on there own...most hogs will run a ways and stop...so I don't get in a hurry...this way if I choose to go home the dogs are close by and can be caught...last thing I want is not being able to catch my dogs...but one day I will have an alpha gps tracker and it won't matter as much...

[Stumphunter]

Thanks for all the help and info guys me and slim will be sure to consider putting some of these techniques to use in the near future for sure!

[Pwilson_10]

For all yall that know what's going on how about this cuz I had this happen to me a few time tell I stoped all that get out number 2 I have tied plenty and killed lots and how u fix this I have run in there to flank a hog and when I show up every thing lets go except the catch dog and I think it's from all them times of me tell them get back get back they put it all togather and would get back before I got my hands on the hog and some times it was nice but some times it would get kinda wild when u show up they let go and hual ass and then here comes the hog with two wore out catch dogs hanging off the hog what's yalls fix to that


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[Georgia-Hawgs]

For all yall that know what's going on how about this cuz I had this happen to me a few time tell I stoped all that get out number 2 I have tied plenty and killed lots and how u fix this I have run in there to flank a hog and when I show up every thing lets go except the catch dog and I think it's from all them times of me tell them get back get back they put it all togather and would get back before I got my hands on the hog and some times it was nice but some times it would get kinda wild when u show up they let go and hual ass and then here comes the hog with two wore out catch dogs hanging off the hog what's yalls fix to that
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[ArtHenrey]

P-will Thats the time you decide if im going to Be a hand, not a foot! I'm totally kidding. That's a good point to. Been in that situation aswell ain't fun.

[l.h.cracker]

I'm going through that with one of my best dogs right now. He's was easy to get off a caught hog and hangs most hogs by himself never been real trashy but a couple months ago I was hunting a man's property who has a hog problem and his only concern was dogs trashing deer and of course Buck ain't never trashed a deer before decided to go and catch a doe.Needless to say I gave him an ass whoopin he won't forget.Now ever since then when he catches a hog as soon as I touch the hog He runs away and if the hog is small and another dog catches he runs off before I even get there. I believe that I am going to tie up a couple hogs by the leg in the woods and just take Buck by himself let him find and catch them with positive reinforcement as many times as it takes to get him to come back around.

[Reuben]

I have seen dogs get away as soon as folks show up at the bay...that usually happens because someone is beating the dogs at the bay...apply enough pressure to make the dogs back off...and they will understand after a while what you want...you can discipline your dogs and they respect you or you can discipline your dogs in a way that they will fear you...if they fear you they may leave you standing there all alone looking at a hog face to face...I have seen folks make this mistake with their dogs more than a few times...
I get on my dogs regularly and they still come around very quickly because they know two things...I want them to stop the behavior and I hold no grudge...as soon as they do right all is well...

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I may be way off here and totally wrong. But me and another fella had a discussion just yesterday along these lines. I try to work with the dogs the way they would work with each other. We were talking about dogs fighting. Most folks see dogs bump heads a little bit and think thats a dog fight.  No thats a little disagreement.  And a demand for some respect.  ( most of the time) . A full blown dog fight is nasty ! Its way different than two dogs sparring with there mouth open. When they full out fight they want to hurt or kill each other. I think when you discipline a dog he knows when you just want some respect versus beat the crap out of one and he knows he better get out of town or get hurt. Dont take me wrong though there has been times when I'll stick my foot a little to far where it dont belong. I aint saying its never necessary. 

[Bo Pugh]

i started out hunting with a older man hes prob 70 now, it was a many of times when we was hunting if the older dogs heard you coming in to a bay they would go ahead and leave out if it was more hogs or just to go hunting, he would hunt anywhere from 4-7 dogs at one time, but when we got in there and caught the hog he would always have a switch and be switching the hell out of them and not let them be biting and barking at a caught hog id either have to wait on him to get done with that and hed help me tie the hog or id already have it tied. but just dont let them stand around after you catch one get a limb and run them out of there, and if you do this enough and cathch enough hogs when they get some time under their belt they will be leaving before you get there if its other dogs there.