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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2015, 03:22:34 pm » |
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It is not about feelings man.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2015, 04:05:35 pm » |
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I've culled a few dogs for various reasons. Had one go coyote on me. But I don't think I could bring myself to shoot a dog just cause he was slow to come to me and wasn't a fan of me putting my hands on it.
Yeah I'm hesitant because he does better every trip to the woods and even on walks he keeps his nose to the ground and ranges out. He still trashes on anything alive lol, but he just doesn't have any sort of handle to him at all. He will go to every single person except me. I'm gonna give him one more shot in the woods and run him with other dogs and if he still wants to be a "scaredy dog" then I'm gonna cull him. Don't need him as a pet just as a hunter. I've got too many just pets. have you put him in a bay pen yet? |
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2015, 04:17:49 pm » |
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I've culled a few dogs for various reasons. Had one go coyote on me. But I don't think I could bring myself to shoot a dog just cause he was slow to come to me and wasn't a fan of me putting my hands on it.
Yeah I'm hesitant because he does better every trip to the woods and even on walks he keeps his nose to the ground and ranges out. He still trashes on anything alive lol, but he just doesn't have any sort of handle to him at all. He will go to every single person except me. I'm gonna give him one more shot in the woods and run him with other dogs and if he still wants to be a "scaredy dog" then I'm gonna cull him. Don't need him as a pet just as a hunter. I've got too many just pets. have you put him in a bay pen yet? Not yet. He was supposed to be lightly started so I was just gonna try and woods start him with the finished strike dogs. |
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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2015, 07:01:21 pm » |
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The gyp I had like this I've posted about a couple times on here a while back asking for advice. The most popular answer I got was if I thought she was gonna make something, keep her. 7-8 months later she will still lay down when she comes to me, but she will come and she went 400yards the other night and struck her first hog. More than glad I kept her around
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2015, 10:00:33 pm » |
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Puttin him in a bay pen might make it clearer for you and give the dog a little confidence if it's a small pig
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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2015, 01:35:02 am » |
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If I was in your shoes I would either chain or kennel the dog with an older dog that did what I wanted. I would pay attention to see how well they buddy up. I would use the older dog to show it I'm a good thing. It would also help get the dog hunting. I have one I can't catch on the yard but tell him to load up and he will at home or in the woods. I am a firm believer in using the buddy system on dogs. I have 2 packs of dogs. One is loose the other catchy. They are set up in the yard as such. I don't handle young dogs any more than necessary.
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2015, 07:56:23 am » |
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If I was in your shoes I would either chain or kennel the dog with an older dog that did what I wanted. I would pay attention to see how well they buddy up. I would use the older dog to show it I'm a good thing. It would also help get the dog hunting. I have one I can't catch on the yard but tell him to load up and he will at home or in the woods. I am a firm believer in using the buddy system on dogs. I have 2 packs of dogs. One is loose the other catchy. They are set up in the yard as such. I don't handle young dogs any more than necessary.
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That's what I don't understand. I have been letting him run with mine and friends' dogs, hell I even let him run with my house pet pit bull in an attempt to use the buddy system. They run together all day and are the best of pals, but when I call her to me or get her to listen to my commands or just handle her in general, he hangs back with his tail tucked and his chin dragging the ground. I guess really my question should be can I get a dog that doesn't trust or really like me to hunt for me? I have worked so hard on getting a handle on him that in the woods he is afraid to range out unless I scare him off which goes against everything I've been teaching him about trusting me and puts me back to square one. |
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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2015, 12:56:14 pm » |
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I wouldn't scare him out either. When the dog is with your others call the other pet and love up the other dog. Treat it and all. Pay no attention to the scared pup. Same in woods. Ignore it. Reward those that do as you want. I would continue to kennel the dog with a dog I intend them to hunt with. It is possible it may never come around. I threaten to part ways with the one I have every time he gets loose at home. Then we go hunt and he does good even letting me catch him. At home tho it sure is a challenge.
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« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2015, 01:33:28 pm » |
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I wouldn't scare him out either. When the dog is with your others call the other pet and love up the other dog. Treat it and all. Pay no attention to the scared pup. Same in woods. Ignore it. Reward those that do as you want. I would continue to kennel the dog with a dog I intend them to hunt with. It is possible it may never come around. I threaten to part ways with the one I have every time he gets loose at home. Then we go hunt and he does good even letting me catch him. At home tho it sure is a challenge.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll try it from now on. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2015, 01:37:58 pm » |
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I wouldn't scare him out either. When the dog is with your others call the other pet and love up the other dog. Treat it and all. Pay no attention to the scared pup. Same in woods. Ignore it. Reward those that do as you want. I would continue to kennel the dog with a dog I intend them to hunt with. It is possible it may never come around. I threaten to part ways with the one I have every time he gets loose at home. Then we go hunt and he does good even letting me catch him. At home tho it sure is a challenge.
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yep...ignore the pup and act calm as if that pup does not exist...call him when you know you have control like he is on a long lead and when you get your hands on him pet him up good and give him a treat...take him for long walks... I train my pups the easy way...I never call them unless they are already coming to me...never when I know they are giving chase because they won't come to something less exciting...I use hunger and food to my advantage as well...if you are aggravated with the pup but putting on a front that you are cool will never work because you cant fool an animal...you have to really be cool and calm and don't let the dog aggravate you... |
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« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2015, 05:38:52 pm » |
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Sounds like a cull, I've learned the hard way. Now days if I don't see consistent improvement they're outa here. I prefer a dog that's impressing me when I take him hunting
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