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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2016, 04:08:22 pm » |
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Are you getting the dogs for 75$ at a place in Oklahoma? The research dog center?
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lol no. The 8 month old Catahoula is from Oklahoma. Although he was bred in north Texas. Supposedly his sire was off of Moffitt Catahoula kennels and the dam was just a decent dog the people who bred owned. They gave him as a pet to a friend in Oklahoma and now they want to rehome him because they can't keep him penned up. The other dog is a year old bmc gyp from brownwood. Supposedly just a best to best breeding of his and he hasn't found time to mess with her. He says she's never seen a hog which is all I really wanted to hear, but we will see if that's true or not |
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2016, 04:46:50 pm » |
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To me there is nothing wrong with what you are trying to do. I might would give the dogs more than one chance to bay a hog.
JMO but a dog man should always be trying to improve on what he has got.
I myself think a lot of my dogs but I want better and will always want better.
A man that thinks he has the best just ain't hunted with enough people.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2016, 05:19:02 pm » |
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Right with yah there hillbilly. I never thought I had the best but I definitely thought I had better than I do. I just want to keep dogs I can be proud of. And if their caliber gets me a few more places to hunt I won't be the least bit sad
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2016, 09:02:18 pm » |
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this is how I see it...a hunting dog is born so it won't stay long with me it is not on track to make a dog...good dogs will work in any terrain.
not that long ago a young man wrote on here that he thought he had good dogs until he got a good one and then he realized he didn't have good dogs...
a good dog will hunt day in and day out.
it is a good feeling when you know your dogs won't look bad against any other dog...but like has already been mentioned...we can always find something we would like to improve on...especially hog dogs on account hogs are hard to stop and catch in there turf or if they are dog smart...
we can look at the very rough dogs and they can really stop a hog...but won't have much of a nose or range...
or we can have a top notch strike dog that can really get out there and find, bay and stick with a hog but does not have the stopping power of a rough dog...just giving scenarios that can and do come up that are real issues with quite a few of us...
one thing about these free dogs that were given away to pet homes and are no longer wanted and then you pick them up for almost free...chances are these are dogs that the original owner did not like for a reason...we can get lucky now and then and get a good deal...
bite the bullet and get you an older gyp that really comes from outstanding stock and breed her to a good male from a long line of hunting dogs and raise some pups...you won't be disappointed...you can have an up and coming pack of dogs in one year to a year and a half...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2016, 09:14:07 pm » |
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Too many dogs that get it done out there to feed a bunch that don't
Slim if you learn to TRULY live by that statement you will save yourself tons of time and displeasure in the long run. I find that most folks talk the talk but aren't discipline to the attitude. Good luck |
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2016, 11:57:35 pm » |
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You are starting down a long and arduous trail, but here is a tip or two, "you can't get out of them what is not in them" "culling is a very necessary part of a breeding program" I don't mean selling, trading, or giving the inferior ones away "the best you can ever expect is whatever the least you will accept is" "proper selection is the key to successful breeding programs" "typically there are better percentages of keepers from related or families of dogs that suit you". Good luck and happy hunting..
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2016, 05:23:23 am » |
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You are starting down a long and arduous trail, but here is a tip or two, "you can't get out of them what is not in them" "culling is a very necessary part of a breeding program" I don't mean selling, trading, or giving the inferior ones away "the best you can ever expect is whatever the least you will accept is" "proper selection is the key to successful breeding programs" "typically there are better percentages of keepers from related or families of dogs that suit you". Good luck and happy hunting..
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2016, 08:17:15 am » |
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If i was going to get young ones to try n if they not work out get couple more young ones, i would definitely just find me a puppy or two crossed up how i wanted, outta good stuff, n raise them. Hunt what you got now n train the pups. By this time next year they'll be ready to go.
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2016, 08:47:09 am » |
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I'm taking every dog we got under 3 yrs old and it's time to start earning feed and a barrel to sleep in
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2016, 01:58:37 pm » |
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Lol good stuff but all serous I would rather pay 200 or 300 from some one I know catches hogs with those dogs and have seen with my own eyes. Then go thru the random cookie jar to find a possible gem. No ? You can make one work I have done it but it's a long road to make a Nissan into a power stroke
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Ya what judge said, I know you have way more to choose from out there but you're better off getting your dogs from a buddy that has what you're looking for or breeding his best male to your best female. I think you'll waste a lot of time and money trying to find what you're looking for from random cheap dogs. If you were close id give you a pup, I have some starting out right that I don't need Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2016, 08:39:33 pm » |
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I'd like to touch back on the fact that judge said something about a Nissan to a powerstroke and I have to laugh cause I drive a Nissan Frontier
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2016, 08:40:19 pm » |
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We shall see what my endeavor reveals. I'm not scared to throw around money. Could always hit it big!
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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016, 04:47:59 pm » |
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You also need to be aware that sometimes your judgement might not always agree with chris. And that's ok, because I do know chris and I know he has some solid dogs and I know he has high expectations, but what I'm trying too say is sometimes one mans junk is another's treasure. I have a couple dogs some would cull. And I've seen enough people's "good dogs" that I'd cull. So with that being said just be smart. For example most of the straight Catahoula dogs that I've seen and been around don't fully excel till around 2-3 yrs old. Like also some of the tater dogs that Chris is Into from what I've owned and seen. Slower too develop and mature. I guess what I'm really getting at that it takes a lot of time and work too make a good dog. Or you can save your money and I know a couple for sale around 1,500-3,000.... Lol good luck
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2016, 07:13:38 am » |
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Slim i drive a power stroke its a pos lol. There are many ways to get a good dog. Lot of fellas have them in many different styles. Good luck on finding what your looking for
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2016, 02:48:42 pm » |
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i didnt read every comment but the way i see it in raising dogs is if you dont like them dont feed them. you shouldnt have to make excuses for a dog to justify in keeping it, its way easier to slow a dog down or shorten the range of how far he hunts than it is to make one hunt deep and usually if the dogs looking at you its not hunting its waiting on direction. and yes you need dogs to compare to and have goals in what you want to raise. everyone is not lucky and stumble on a great pack of dogs so they need to know what they want in the next 2 years before they just get abunch of dogs, in the end you will go broke buying 50$dogs and still wont have anthing. im not saying but a 350$ puppy cause alot of them are number 2 eaters too
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2016, 07:59:10 pm » |
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Listen to what Judge is saying find a line of dogs that hunt how you would like a dog hunt and try to get a few pups even if they are a few hundred dollars your chances of getting the results you're after are greatly improved. Hunt is bred into a dog and cannot be taught IMO. Buying cheap dogs from so and so then expecting them to impress you is foolish and at the end of the day when you cull through ten $50 dogs that come from who knows what you could have raised a couple of dogs off a proven line that do what they were bred to do.I went through exactly what you are going through and let me tell you when you get a naturaly talented hunting dog there's a big difference and that's a bred trait not a taught behavior. Not saying that there aren't culls in every line but your chances of getting what you're after are much greater than just shooting in dar.Good luck bud....
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2016, 09:51:24 pm » |
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I helped Chris with his dogs.I bred an give t3 to Chris.I'm sure he will help you out .if you try a pup I'd give it little more time unless you hunt 4 times week an have the hogs to train a pup.wood time is good but putting a dog in hogs every trip is hard.you will do fine
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